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tysmith95 said:
I'd love to know what percentage of patrons go to those casinos from the NYC metro area vs the Boston metro or more local areas. However I do agree with you that the casino market is becoming saturated. Wynn does have the best chance to succeed because of it's location so close to the city.
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I actually heard 5 years ago it was around 33% of Revenue comes from MASS.
Foxwoods and Mohegan should be extremely worried about this.
 
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Bubbybu said:
man, I'm a Boston native, I grew up bashing townies.
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I'm a Boston native also. I'm a city boy - born & raised here. Lived here all of my life.

And I've always wondered what it would be like having a casino in Massachusetts. Sometimes, you get so tired of going to Connecticut to gamble. I do!

And from what I heard, Springfield & Taunton are supposed to get one as well. :cool:
 
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I was down Foxwoods last weekend: they deserve to go bankrupt:
Charging customers 6.00&25.00 service charges on debit cards.

Also they expanded a mall inside the MGM development.
The Indians really fucked up on their money tree once the mass casinos open I could see Foxwoods default on their debts.
Bad management and the board of directors were morons.

Foxwoods ownership should have pumped all there money into politics to keep gambling illegal in mass, NYC, other surrounding areas..

No strategy and now they will file bankruptcy in 2020 for over expansion. They had a good run but incompetent people where guiding them.

Back to smoking the peace pipe
 
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Czervik.Construction said:
Take this article for what it is worth, but things do not look good for CT casinos.

http://www.courant.com/business/hc-casino-gaming-connecticut-northeast-report-20150304-story.html
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The thing that has turned me away from gambling is the fact that most casinos now have done away with the coin slot machines and have gone to those blasted paper machines.

I absolutely HATE those machines! I'm too used to the sound of the coins falling down into the metal trays, and they were much easier to operate. :cool:
 
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Jahvon09 said:
The thing that has turned me away from gambling is the fact that most casinos now have done away with the coin slot machines and have gone to those blasted paper machines.

I absolutely HATE those machines! I'm too used to the sound of the coins falling down into the metal trays, and they were much easier to operate. :cool:
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centralized casino gambling software should be the downfall of all casinos if people weren't so blithely indifferent to losing their money.
 
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Bubbybu said:
centralized casino gambling software should be the downfall of all casinos if people weren't so blithely indifferent to losing their money.
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Explain this more? Are u saying the industry is transforming basically just for the Internet. I would rather be in a actual casino and feel the energy of chips/cling cling of the slots. Just the real feeling of a gambling parlor. People dressed to the nines.

The only night Foxwoods seems like the money maker is sat night. I believe most of the other 6 days the tables are filled with dumb hopeless degenerates
 
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TheRifleman said:
I was down Foxwoods last weekend: they deserve to go bankrupt:
Charging customers 6.00&25.00 service charges on debit cards.

Also they expanded a mall inside the MGM development.
The Indians really fucked up on their money tree once the mass casinos open I could see Foxwoods default on their debts.
Bad management and the board of directors were morons.

Foxwoods ownership should have pumped all there money into politics to keep gambling illegal in mass, NYC, other surrounding areas..

No strategy and now they will file bankruptcy in 2020 for over expansion. They had a good run but incompetent people where guiding them.

Back to smoking the peace pipe
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I would agree with everything you said. Want to go to Mohegan to see a concert? Expect to pay at least $450/night if you want to stay at the casino. Even the hotels in the surrounding areas will all be at least $300/night. This fact is one of the reasons I have stopped going down to the casinos - it's become too expensive to be worth it.
 
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Bubbybu said:
let's be real, Boston has nothing to worry about with regards to the casino. That place is going to be chock-a-block full or north shore trash and what not. Some of whom would have gone to Boston, yes. But no one living in the Boston area wants to go Everett, no one. And people in the area aren't dumb automatons who are going to salivate at the idea of blowing money in some ugly squat casino complex
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Bubbybu -- That sort of comment is just plain ignorant of reality

This cassino will attract people from around the planet who are in the Boston area for business or pleasure and given the nearly $2B investment it will hardly be either ugly or squat

And for that matter the cassino is hardly located in what one normally thinks of as Everett -- and indeed even Everett sans cassino is rapidly being transformed with "non-traditional Everett" sites such as micro breweries, etc.
 
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TheRifleman said:
Foxwoods ownership should have pumped all there money into politics to keep gambling illegal in mass, NYC, other surrounding areas..
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Ahh yes the brilliant Comcast approach. Instead of funneling money into improving and diversifying your product, you funnel money into the pockets of politicians so they get rid of the competition for you! Capitalism at it's finest!
 
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Blackdog said:
Ahh yes the brilliant Comcast approach. Instead of funneling money into improving and diversifying your product, you funnel money into the pockets of politicians so they get rid of the competition for you! Capitalism at it's finest!
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Also improve the product but they always had a problem because of the location: It was only a matter of time before the sick political groups got involved because of the money.

I also heard that if you ever got in trouble down at Foxwoods that Tribal Law supersede CT/Federal laws. Not sure if that is true. I just heard that.
 
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TheRifleman said:
Also improve the product but they always had a problem because of the location: It was only a matter of time before the sick political groups got involved because of the money.

I also heard that if you ever got in trouble down at Foxwoods that Tribal Law supersede CT/Federal laws. Not sure if that is true. I just heard that.
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They don't have their own criminal justice system. The federal bureaucracy for imposing their own common law on visitors are just too daunting for tribes so extremely small in population who are 100% dependent on visitation. You just get thrown out on your ass thrown off the property like any casino would for breaking the house rules, and handed over to the State Police for any criminal matters. Differences in tribal law are primarily regulatory like sales tax exemptions and smoking laws. If you are an actual tribe member who lives there you may be subject to some self-rule quirks (though nearly all New England tribes have too few tribe members period for "the strong arm of the law" to be more than a glorified homeowners association). But otherwise, be enough of an ass at Foxwoods to leave in handcuffs and you wind up in the same Connecticut holding cell as being an ass outside of Foxwoods lands you.



Foxwoods and Mohegan are polar, polar opposites on ease of driving and transit access. Foxwoods is legitimately in the middle of freakin' nowhere, with just one very limited public bus out of downtown New London. No other way to get there without a traffic-snarled slog through the backroads. Mohegan Sun is extremely easy most directions, however:

  • From I-95 EB (New Haven): take I-395 split, go 9 miles up 395 to CT 2A expressway, go 2 miles east on CT 2A, exit ramp dumps straight into casino parking lot.

  • From I-95 WB (Boston, Providence) or downtown New London: CT 32 exit (first exit off the Gold Star Bridge), 4.5 miles up divided CT 32 parkway, grab I-395 NB connector ramp, 2 exits up 395 to CT 2A.

  • From Hartford: CT 2 expressway to Norwich, I-395 SB for 4 miles to CT 2A.

  • From Worcester: I-290/395 to CT 2A.

  • From Amtrak/Shore Line East trains: New London Union Station, transfer to SATD Route 1 or Route 101. Taxis and Uber also available at NLN to Mohegan.
Route 2 can be pretty nasty between East Hartford and Glastonbury and 95 is 95, but otherwise 395 is the least-congested expressway in all of Southern New England and there's not a single back road necessary to get right there. They'd probably benefit from running a dedicated shuttle bus matched to the Amtrak and SLE schedules instead of relying on somewhat limited local bus schedules (SATD isn't a real large or well-funded RTA). I'm kind of surprised they haven't already given the incredible ease of getting between New London Union and the casino. Hell, they've got the NECR mainline tracks right behind their parking garage. They could pay NECR to run a casino-branded Budd RDC dinky the 10 miles between the New London Union Station side platform and a self-built platform at the casino. While it wouldn't come close to beating a shuttle bus up CT 32/I-395, track's rated for 60 MPH passenger and has gorgeous views of the Thames River the whole way up. But on the whole they don't have a big access problem to solve; the car trip is fine from all directions, and one little addition of a shuttle bus to NLN fills any remaining transit gap.



I really don't know how much you can correlate recent financial performance to location given the stark differences in location. Foxwoods should be doing proportionately much worse than Mohegan. And done worse all along because the access has been so woefully inferior all along. That hasn't been the case. If there's an ongoing downturn, it's some other factor that's doing it.
 
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Blackdog said:
Ahh yes the brilliant Comcast approach. Instead of funneling money into improving and diversifying your product, you funnel money into the pockets of politicians so they get rid of the competition for you! Capitalism at it's finest!
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Actually at one point Massachusetts politicians and Connecticut politicians did openly contemplate an interstate agreement with Connecticut to keep gambling illegal in Massachusetts in return for a cut of the tribal gambling revenue.

The whole industry is so tightly run by the state governments it is hard to think of it as any sort of free market capitalism.
 
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Casino gambling, as currently constituted, is a state-sponsored form of disaster capitalism.
 
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Just a dubious way for a state to raise money.

I am envious of Steve Wynn because he decides on final design and choice of material and objects in his projects.

Used Search This Thread to find website "wynnineverett" without success,
maybe I just missed seeing it, but it has a sixteen minute video entitled,

"A Personal Tour of Wynn Las Vegas with Steve Wynn"
http://www.wynnineverett.com/our_resorts.html
(About Us > Our Resorts > Wynn Las Vegas)

Just drop-dead gorgeous!
 
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Beton Brut said:
Casino gambling, as currently constituted, is a state-sponsored form of disaster capitalism.
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Aside from the fact that "disaster capitalism" sounds like a suspiciously trendy cocktail party buzzphrase, I just hope you're not drawing an arbitrary line between the still quite recently approved Massachusetts "Vegas-style" casino gambling... and the fact that our Commonwealth has relentlessly exhorted its citizens to play a state-run lottery for almost 45 years.

Because when you think about it, a state-sponsored lottery is flat-out predatory--the state is striving hard to fleece its citizens. Whereas state-sponsored casinos, while still obviously a form of gambling and all that that entails, are not literally advertised by the state with aggressive enticements paid for by you, the taxpayer.
 
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"DeSalvio said the company is working with the Boston Transportation Department on launching an $11 million improvement project in and around Sullivan Square as part of the company’s mitigation requirement. DeSalvio said the plan — which will improve pedestrian and bike access to the square — will most likely get underway in 2017 and be completed before the casino opens."

If this is getting started next year then I imagine there are some actual plans for these improvements? I don't know how much $11 million gets you in the black hole that is Sullivan Square, but I imagine it is more than just fresh green paint for the bike lanes.
 
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DBM said:
...a state-sponsored lottery is flat-out predatory--the state is striving hard to fleece its citizens...
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I don't disagree with this position. Instant games are particularly predatory and destructive.

With that said, if we're speaking about the spectrum of deleterious impacts that gambling can have on individuals, families, and communities, a lottery is positioned differently on the "Richter Scale" than a slot or poker machine.
 
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