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Wait why haven't we taken the Kennedy name off of buildings yet? We have both sexual misconduct and murder of an innocent young woman related to that name.

Where will it end?
 
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Wait why haven't we taken the Kennedy name off of buildings yet? We have both sexual misconduct and murder of an innocent young woman related to that name.

Where will it end?

While Ted Kennedy certainly has done some bad things (calling it murder is a bit conspiratorial, though..), there's also a lot that he's done to be celebrated. What has Wynn done that should be celebrated by the public?
 
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While Ted Kennedy certainly has done some bad things (calling it murder is a bit conspiratorial, though..), there's also a lot that he's done to be celebrated. What has Wynn done that should be celebrated by the public?

Pleading guilty to leaving a scene of an accident where someone died and not reporting it until 10am the next day? Yeah not sure what to call that.

Regardless, we can't start taking names off of everything now when accusations come up. I'm sure you could scrub through everyone's history and find something.
 
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Pleading guilty to leaving a scene of an accident where someone died and not reporting it until 10am the next day? Yeah not sure what to call that.

Involuntary manslaughter or vehicular homicide. Leaving the scene of an accident. Not murder though. Murder requires intent, he did not intend to kill.

He was only convicted of leaving the scene of an accident though.
 
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Oh my God. Are we seriously doing the Ted Kennedy thing again? It's been done before on here, folks. Move on.
 
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While Ted Kennedy certainly has done some bad things (calling it murder is a bit conspiratorial, though..), there's also a lot that he's done to be celebrated. What has Wynn done that should be celebrated by the public?

He started the Company that bears his name. The company and building bear his name, its not a public building.
 
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What a strange hill to want to die on.
 
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Oh my God. Are we seriously doing the Ted Kennedy thing again? It's been done before on here, folks. Move on.

Yes, because falcon needs to bring some completely unrelated, right-wing talking points into pretty much every thread.
 
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Why would wynn resorts change their name when "wynn" is an alteration to the actual family name so it wouldn't sound jewish? As far as I'm concerned it's sort of a stage name.
 
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Because the name "Wynn" is now synonymous with "alleged sexual predator" and that is generally considered to be bad PR?
 
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Why would wynn resorts change their name when "wynn" is an alteration to the actual family name so it wouldn't sound jewish? As far as I'm concerned it's sort of a stage name.

The name is a subliminal message to the masses.
 
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Yes, because falcon needs to bring some completely unrelated, right-wing talking points into pretty much every thread.

No. The point is, why should something be "mandated"?

You can come with 1000 examples of names that can be changed, right and left. The fact is Wynn is accused of horrible things, yet not convicted of anything, other than in the court of public opinion. Its a slippery slope to mandate name changes. Its the same debate with Yawkey Way etc. A mandate is strong. Should they consider voluntary changing it? Yes of course, but be mandated by some people on a higher moral ground, no.
 
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No. The point is, why should something be "mandated"?

You can come with 1000 examples of names that can be changed, right and left. The fact is Wynn is accused of horrible things, yet not convicted of anything, other than in the court of public opinion. Its a slippery slope to mandate name changes. Its the same debate with Yawkey Way etc. A mandate is strong. Should they consider voluntary changing it? Yes of course, but be mandated by some people on a higher moral ground, no.

It'll all come down to money, quite frankly. The state has allowed casino gaming, and expects a return on that. If projections show millions of dollars of difference between keeping the name and getting rid of it, guess what's going to happen? Of course, the company will also have its own internal calculations. The only issue I see coming up is if the state's projections and the company's projections are significantly different from one another, but ultimately they both want to see maximum $$$$$.
 
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The company should decide what's the best name for the casino, not the state.
 
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His family name was Weinberg. His dad changed it to Wynn. No biggie. His antecedents probably chose "Weinberg" in the early 1800's because some Austrian or German laws required it (e.g. "Edict of Tolerance", etc.).

Personally, I think "Goldwyn" would have been a better subliminal.
 
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The company should decide what's the best name for the casino, not the state.

Glad to hear your take on the role of government, but the company will also be deciding based on money, just like the state.
 
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new name...change Wynn to Win
 
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But even then there is the 12% ownership stake which means the "suitability" standard still applies unless he goes under 5% of the shares.

Things are going to get messy if Massachusetts tries to force divestiture based on these allegations. We are talking about billions of dollars and a lifetime of work... Wynn isn't walking away from that without a fight even if they take his name off the building.

Sounded from news reports today and yesterday that the Casino commission is going to press the ownership stake issue beyond the CEO issue. The naming discussion is a sideshow. Getting the Steve Wynn ownership stake below the 5% threshold is the $2 billion dollar question.

Though I would have to think a $2 billion dollar buy out package isn't a bridge too far for the board to finance.
 

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