Encore Boston Harbor Casino | 1 Broadway | Everett

cadetcarl said:
That might be the worst-written thing I've ever seen linked here, do they have kids from the Parlin covering the development beat?
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Poorly written by a human or rather impressively written by an algorithm!
 
cadetcarl said:
That might be the worst-written thing I've ever seen linked here, do they have kids from the Parlin covering the development beat?
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Its directly from the Everett Leader Herald established in 1885.
Can this area handle that type of traffic? 100,000 people is like 3 full games at Fenway Park.
 
TheMagicMan said:
Its directly from the Everett Leader Herald established in 1885.
Can this area handle that type of traffic? 100,000 people is like 3 full games at Fenway Park.
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That's the max estimate over the course of three days with people coming and going at all hours (instead of everyone arriving at once for a 7:05 start and leaving at once after the 9th). So it's not the same. But it will certainly be an influx of traffic over that span of time.
 
Success is what the opening should be all about.

Just how big a success it will be is the ultimate question.

How the city deals with the crowds- well, this is a matter to be dealt with as it occurs.

A casino without crowds in this city will be like a casino without people.

We are predicting huge crowds, temporary parking and traffic issues of a great magnitude.
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Wot m8?
 
TheMagicMan said:
Its directly from the Everett Leader Herald established in 1885.
Can this area handle that type of traffic? 100,000 people is like 3 full games at Fenway Park.
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The comparison doesn't work, as a ball game involves intense traffic for about an hour before and an hour after the game. If Fenway crowds coming and going were spread over three days, that would be 500 people an hour in each direction. Multiply that by three and you'll get a better sense of things.

But to be fair, obviously some hours will be worse than others. Probably not much activity at 4AM. So say it's 36 hours, rather than 72. That's 3,000 people per hour. I suspect the infrastructure can handle it.
 
HenryAlan said:
The comparison doesn't work, as a ball game involves intense traffic for about an hour before and an hour after the game. If Fenway crowds coming and going were spread over three days, that would be 500 people an hour in each direction. Multiply that by three and you'll get a better sense of things.

But to be fair, obviously some hours will be worse than others. Probably not much activity at 4AM. So say it's 36 hours, rather than 72. That's 3,000 people per hour. I suspect the infrastructure can handle it.
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I could see the first Friday and Saturday evenings having a 3 to 4 hour period of time being equivalent to a game at Fenway and Alford/Broadway could really bottleneck and become a parking lot for those three hours.

Could have used that pedestrian bridge over from Assembly to make a good walking connection to the Orange line to relieve traffic at peak periods.

Shuttle buses will get stuck in traffic so I don't see that being of great benefit unless they dedicate a lane.

Water taxis are going to have much lower capacity per hour than the road/buses can handle, so I would expect those to be full unless word doesn't really get out about them. As-is I expect they will fill up just with the number of people that already know about them, so it would be unnecessary to promote them further.

Parking a mile away and walking the rest of the way could be your best bet.

Walking from the Wellington or Assembly despite the lack of a direct connection work out to about 1.6 miles.
 
It's a shame there isn't a way to get over the tracks from the Gateway Center, which has more spots than the Wellington surface lot, and if the crowds for casino and shopping switch over at around 9-10pm they'd basically not interfere with each other.
 
between the orange line stop and the excessive amount of available parking at assembly it's truly baffling why the state didn't absolutely require a footbridge across the mystic to the casino. would really have mitigated what's going to be a bit of a mess under any circumstances.

the rotary at sullivan square is already a traffice nightmare and between encore and ongoing (and increasing) sullivan construction it's just going to be much, much worse for a long time to come.
 
chrisbrat said:
between the orange line stop and the excessive amount of available parking at assembly it's truly baffling why the state didn't absolutely require a footbridge across the mystic to the casino. would really have mitigated what's going to be a bit of a mess under any circumstances.

the rotary at sullivan square is already a traffice nightmare and between encore and ongoing (and increasing) sullivan construction it's just going to be much, much worse for a long time to come.
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The only way out of the Encore Casino is 99? That's like 2 lanes. This actually could block everyday transit drivers from traveling in and out of Boston in this direction.

I thought a foot bridge was in the works?
 
there has been talk of a footbridge from assembly to encore, but nothing official proposed or even discussed from somerville, everett, or the state, so...
 
chrisbrat said:
between the orange line stop and the excessive amount of available parking at assembly it's truly baffling why the state didn't absolutely require a footbridge across the mystic to the casino. would really have mitigated what's going to be a bit of a mess under any circumstances.

the rotary at sullivan square is already a traffice nightmare and between encore and ongoing (and increasing) sullivan construction it's just going to be much, much worse for a long time to come.
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This is typical for the road infrastructure in the Boston area. Poorly laid out and and unable to handle the volume.

They should have mandated massive road infrastructure upgrades to go along with the construction of this casino.
 
TheMagicMan said:
Those upgrades were needed before the casino. I think the city and state should have proposed multiple footbridges from Assembly and Wellington T-Stops then add a 93 off-ramp directly to the casino.
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For the footbridge, they did.

For the I-93 off-ramp, what? How would you do that? You would have to fly ramps over the Mystic River.
 
datadyne007 said:
For the footbridge, they did.

For the I-93 off-ramp, what? How would you do that? You would have to fly ramps over the Mystic River.
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There is only one ground entrance in and out of the casino which happens to be on route 99 which currently has only four lanes. The traffic on route 99 is very congested.

The other entrance way would be by boat.
How long would it take from Boston Harbor Hotel to the Casino by boat?

I thought the state was building an off-ramp for the casino. I guess I was wrong.

What will happen to the industries in that area on the Everett and Chelsea borders that depend on the daily deliveries?
 
I'm wondering how Mass Highway or the state could allow the Casino to be built without any significant upgrades in this area. I am shocked that an off-ramp wasn't being built or the foot bridges were not approved to be built. There is no way 99 can handle the volume to 2.5 Billion dollar casino development in this area.
 
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