Fairmount Line Upgrade

Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

Couldn't you always expand the schedule by moving more Franklin Line trains off of the NEC?

Doesn't solve any of the above problems about temporarily strained coach supply, so they aren't in a position to add any new Franklin trains. And the Blue Hill Ave. construction speed restriction makes it a poor schedule-keeping idea for diverting Franklin runs now. Same deal...2014 is the realistic target for these temporary conditions to abate on their own and open up new slots. As long as they're good on their word when they do have these things wrapped up, then it's no problem.


Also...some constrictions to consider re: Franklin. . .

1) Staging train meets. Franklin has little schedule wiggle room for train meets on all the single-track running. There'd be conflicts if an existing run were diverted and had to stop at every single Fairmount station, so they'd most likely have to express Forge Park trains through and skip a bunch of Fairmount stations. Not real useful as a service expansion.

2) Franklin layover. It's the tiniest layover yard on the southside (excepting Stoughton, which doesn't have or need one). Requires delicate staging of inbounds after outbounds and deadheading to balance the schedule. So for same reason, diverted runs have to match the travel time of current runs...meaning less-useful expressing if they run via Fairmount.

3) Adding runs. It's pretty much the only way to do it without screwing up the existing schedule. But see #1 and #2 and staging meets. And see the issues with the coach supply.


Now, they do have meaningful future options by thru-routing Norwood Central and Walpole short-turns over the Fairmount. Norwood avoids all single track, Walpole avoids most single track, they wouldn't throw a monkey wrench into the Forge Park schedule, and both could serve all Fairmount stops. That I think is indeed in the mix. They could buff up and/or shift the short-turns onto Fairmount post-2014 making all stops, while keeping the number of NEC-running Forge Park trains static. But again...at least 2 more years before they have the equipment to swing it and all mop-up construction completed.

Don't forget as well...if Foxboro happens that exclusively feeds off Fairmount and involves double-tracking the Franklin at least as far as Windsor Gardens (minimum build) if not Walpole (max build). If that service happens it pretty much supplants all the inner short-turns and would flush Fairmount's pipeline full since there'll be a full-size layover yard built at Foxboro. Much simpler to depict on a schedule: if you're on a Foxboro train you're stopping at all Fairmount stops, if you're on a Forge Park train you're stopping at all NEC stops.


As for the NEC, Forge Park isn't tapped out of slots yet. The Readville Jct. single-track bottleneck is due to be fixed, Ruggles is due to get a third platform, and afterwards the 4th track is going to be restored from Forest Hills to Readville. That will serve all capacity needs to 2035 and support a Franklin-Milford extension, so they will not need to start paring Franklin-NEC runs until Amtrak implements its 2040 Inland HSR plan. Fairmount acts as the relief valve for doubling up service, but they're fine for 25 more years running the same--or very modestly increased--NEC schedule.

Needham is the one that's gumming up the works and a more acute dilemma for booting off the NEC. That's the line that can't have meaningful service increases as long as it's sharing 3 crowded tracks to FH, not Franklin.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

Couldn't you always expand the schedule by moving more Franklin Line trains off of the NEC?

Couldn't you always expand the schedule by actually scheduling each stop (or at least more of them) on each train that passes through instead of listing them as flag stops. I feel like that would be a good way to show some commitment to the corridor's development without actually doing anything. It could be a tiny first step forward that at least shows that they are going to expand service. I know it is a minor sticking point, but scheduling FOUR stops a day at these new stations is an absolute joke.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

New map at one of the new stops:

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Black dots indicate the 2 stations--Blue Hill Ave. and Newmarket--that are opening later.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

What a graphicaly designed disaster our system map is evolving into. The silver line looks terrble with its multiple routes and names, also why are they listing all stops when they don't for the B and C? Dudley Square is written on top of the fairmount line. Then of course is them listing stops that don't exist, but not listing other soon to be opened stops such as Brighton Landing, Assembly Square, and the Green Line extension.

Its time for another redesign methinks.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

What a graphicaly designed disaster our system map is evolving into. The silver line looks terrble with its multiple routes and names, also why are they listing all stops when they don't for the B and C? Dudley Square is written on top of the fairmount line. Then of course is them listing stops that don't exist, but not listing other soon to be opened stops such as Brighton Landing, Assembly Square, and the Green Line extension.

Its time for another redesign methinks.

You mean like this guy did?
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

What a graphicaly designed disaster our system map is evolving into. The silver line looks terrble with its multiple routes and names, also why are they listing all stops when they don't for the B and C? Dudley Square is written on top of the fairmount line. Then of course is them listing stops that don't exist, but not listing other soon to be opened stops such as Brighton Landing, Assembly Square, and the Green Line extension.

Its time for another redesign methinks.

Silver line looks much better than their first attempt at sl4 and sl5.

The Dudley square thing does indeed look bad, the purple line should be pulled slightly south.

Of course they wont have those stops. The Fairmount stops all open within 6 months, it's a good idea to put them there.

Brighton and Assembly not until 2014, at best. Green line not until 2051.

Im surprised Providence isn't bolded though,
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

Thats horrible even our Urban Stations which get bypassed due to duel transitway coverage get more service then that which is every 20-30mins offpeak.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

Per a spotter report on RR.net from the Wi-fi of a Fairmount train, Talbot Ave. took its first passenger yesterday. 1 passenger.

Perhaps Mr. Pesaturo may want to get off his ass and announce that thing is open or something. Preferably not buried in a 2-line blurb somewhere 10 pages inside the Globe.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

Per a spotter report on RR.net from the Wi-fi of a Fairmount train, Talbot Ave. took its first passenger yesterday. 1 passenger.

Perhaps Mr. Pesaturo may want to get off his ass and announce that thing is open or something. Preferably not buried in a 2-line blurb somewhere 10 pages inside the Globe.

As I was getting off 66 at South Station this morning, the outbound Fairmount train was announced with Talbot Avenue as one of its stops, so at least we know that it's been added to the system.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

Per a spotter report on RR.net from the Wi-fi of a Fairmount train, Talbot Ave. took its first passenger yesterday. 1 passenger.

Perhaps Mr. Pesaturo may want to get off his ass and announce that thing is open or something. Preferably not buried in a 2-line blurb somewhere 10 pages inside the Globe.

That one person was just a railfan -- I know who it was, lol. So not even an actual commuter...

Worst PR ever considering its a brand new station for a transit starved area, a low income area, and its right near Dorchester center!
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

With all of the other options in the area, they could never have high ridership without frequency of service.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

http://www.medfordgreenline.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mpo_0418_sip.pdf

Four Corners Station is under construction and is now 94% complete. A notice to
proceed was issued to S&R Construction Enterprises, Inc. on January 28, 2010. Four
Corners Station has experienced delays due to unforeseen geotechnical conditions, MassDOT Office of Transportation Planning Page 5
relocation of existing utilities, and a redesign of the inbound sloped walkway structure
at Geneva Avenue. The current substantial completion date for Four Corners Station is
April 2013 with final completion to occur in June 2013. The delay in completion dates
can be attributed to extra work required to construct the Washington Street outbound
ramp structure, where the discovery of a rock vein, not identified in the engineer’s test
borings, required reengineering, installation of additional soil nails due to a difference
in existing soil conditions, and construction of additional structural elements to support
the inbound sloped walkway and retaining walls.

...

Construction of Newmarket Station was awarded to S&R Construction Enterprises at
the MBTA Board of Directors meeting on October 6, 2010. The MBTA issued a notice to
proceed on December 13, 2010. Construction is currently 85% complete. The
substantial completion and completion of work are currently anticipated for May 2013
and July 2013, respectively. The extension of the completion dates can be attributed to:
the discovery of an existing power duct bank for the South Bay Shopping Center not
previously discovered or identified on any existing condition NStar plans; the driven-pile
redesign for inbound and outbound retaining walls; and the delay in manufacturing the
precast concrete platform panels.

We should be hearing more about opening dates soon.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...0SxrJ0x3pQJ/story.html?comments=all#aComments

I don't have a Globe account, so I can't read the entire article.

2 more stations are about to open. Ridership is very low, frequency of trains is poor and people would prefer to take the bus as it's cheaper and runs a lot more frequently.


Four new stations will be added, including one on Talbot Avenue that opened with little public notice last year and a proposed Blue Hill Avenue stop that is facing stiff resistance from residents. The Four Corners/Geneva station in Dorchester and the Newmarket stop near South Bay will soon open.

So much is riding on the line, the shortest commuter rail with the lowest weekday ridership of roughly 1,250. City, state, and neighborhood planners are hoping the new stations, rising like beacons of promise in low-income communities, will boost businesses, jobs, and development near the stops.

Some of those in the community object to this line, fearing it will lead to gentrification and pushing minorities out of these neighborhoods.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

It's a catch 22 really; since the T has very limited resources they need to give priority to busy lines. But they are required to build these new stations. And without new service there won't be an increase in ridership. They are still treating the line as commuter rail and not a hybrid as it should be. EMU/DMUs with more frequent service and a large marketing campaign is what's needed and damn if that will cost a pretty penny.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...0SxrJ0x3pQJ/story.html?comments=all#aComments

I don't have a Globe account, so I can't read the entire article.

2 more stations are about to open. Ridership is very low, frequency of trains is poor and people would prefer to take the bus as it's cheaper and runs a lot more frequently.

To be fair, train frequency has to be low during construction because construction activity at the stations has to stop at an approaching train and the trains have to slow up when passing through the construction zone. Even when the workers aren't there, just in case. With so many stations under simultaneous construction, it puts a serious lid on what's possible. I would expect there's not going to be much in the way of schedule increases until Blue Hill Ave. is done, just because status quo means not needing to change contractor hours or work practices.

By the time that station's done they'll have the full bi-level coach order in service, the Kawasaki bi-levels will all be back from midlife rehab, there'll be a boosted loco fleet with some of the new ones in service and all of the old ones still hanging around, and they'll be able to run consists that have the new + rehabbed bi-levels' new ASA and LED destination signs. Expect 2014 to be the year they announce with some degree of fanfare that the service increases are coming.


How much they'll be increasing...well, T needs to have its feet held to the fire to deliver on that. But in no way would they have done a full, complete build on stations and cleared well over 90% of project completion on something they never intended to make use of if. They weasel out of commitments by delaying builds into submission, not by building and leaving for dead. It'll get there and hit a meaningful usefulness threshold. This is just the obligatory +2 yr. project delay.
 
Re: Fairmont Line Upgrade

That fare is indeed fair; now if only they could integrate it into the Charlie Card for free transfers out of South Station. This subway pricing should also be applied to Roslindale, Chelsea, Yawkey, future New Balance, and all other inner stations.
 

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