Fall River/New Bedford Commuter Rail (South Coast Rail)

jklo said:
That's correct. But it also shows that more than 4 tph on the Worcester Line just isn't realistic.
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Based on what? Infrastructure constraints? Downstream slot availability on the NEC? Demand?
 
#bancars said:
some disputes over parking minimums near the new stations:

newbedfordlight.org

Councilors say zoning change near commuter rail stations would go too far - The New Bedford Light

City councilors say they want walkable neighborhoods with fewer cars. Just not quite as few cars as city planners are aiming for.
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This is unfortunate. Going to 1.25 is ridiculous. They even say in the article “most” new bedford residents have “at least” 1 car, that means not all do. The absolute maximum allowed should be 1 car per unit near transit. Thats even too much but going to 1.25 is ridiculous.
 
stick n move said:
This is unfortunate. Going to 1.25 is ridiculous. They even say in the article “most” new bedford residents have “at least” 1 car, that means not all do. The absolute maximum allowed should be 1 car per unit near transit. Thats even too much but going to 1.25 is ridiculous.
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people want affordable housing, but they also want 75+% of the residential land to be dedicated to empty asphalt instead of building more units. :censored:
 
jklo said:
That's correct. But it also shows that more than 4 tph on the Worcester Line just isn't realistic.
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How? Present some goddamn evidence for a change. As helpfully pointed out the last time you concern-trolled about TPH, the state's own Rail Vision is proposing exactly that...>4 TPH at minimum. The onus is on you to present something concrete that says they can't do that...that says that their own study is wrong. Just saying that you feel it so over and over and bumping the thread to re-state it after 3 weeks of quiet doesn't count as evidence in your favor.
 
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stick n move said:
This is unfortunate. Going to 1.25 is ridiculous. They even say in the article “most” new bedford residents have “at least” 1 car, that means not all do. The absolute maximum allowed should be 1 car per unit near transit. Thats even too much but going to 1.25 is ridiculous.
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It's unfortunate, but it's hard to convince people to ditch the car living in a city/region that has been developing around the car for nearly 80 years. Especially when the transit options are so limited, walkability is a mixed bag, and many of the basic needs aren't within walking distance. I love the idea of building dense around the stations, but infrequent 90 minute commuter service to Boston and limited bus connections (with no Sunday service at all) aren't going to entice people out of their cars. Again, especially if there's not enough within walking distance.
 
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Lrfox said:
It's unfortunate, but it's hard to convince people to ditch the car living in a city/region that has been developing around the car for nearly 80. Especially when the transit options are so limited, walkability is a mixed bag, and many of the basic needs aren't within walking distance. I love the idea of building dense around the stations, but infrequent 90 minute commuter service to Boston and limited bus connections (with no Sunday service at all) aren't going to entice people out of their cars. Again, especially if there's not enough within walking distance.
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Hasn't the TOD in Weymouth Landing sort of flopped for these exact reasons. Sure, there's a few bars and restaurants, but there's no supermarket, gym, etc. in walkable distance.
 
Church Street station near completion on December 24:
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vanshnookenraggen said:
Is this the end of the line, or will it extend further south into downtown?
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This will be the end of the line.

State Pier at State Pier Maritime Terminal (the former steamship wharf) was a potential station site, in addition to the station pictured (New Bedford Station, originally called Whale’s Tooth in the planning process). By 2010, only the Whale's Tooth site was selected for inclusion.
 
HenryAlan said:
Why are these single track platforms? I get that the current planned schedule doesn't remotely involve bi-directional traffic, but I would hope that eventually we'd see enough trains to have gone with island platforms.
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The bestest most optimistic scenario of :30 Regional Rail on a restored double-track Stoughton Line (assuming they can solve for the single-track swamp trestle pinch point the Army Corps stuck them with) is only going to provide for hourly service on the branches at most. So you'll probably never need more than what's there right now. At most an extra passing siding, but probably not double-track platforms.
 
F-Line to Dudley said:
The bestest most optimistic scenario of :30 Regional Rail on a restored double-track Stoughton Line (assuming they can solve for the single-track swamp trestle pinch point the Army Corps stuck them with) is only going to provide for hourly service on the branches at most. So you'll probably never need more than what's there right now. At most an extra passing siding, but probably not double-track platforms.
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Also, at least for New Bedford, doesn't the proximity to the layover reduce the need to turn trains in place at the platform?
 
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