Fogg Art Museum Addition | 32 Quincy Street | Cambridge

[stellarfun]

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Beeline, thanks for the pictures.

On the north side pic, is that some sort of metal or ceramic screen being installed on what looks to be aluminum framing in front of the window? There looks to be a similar screen in the SE corner pic as well.

 

[Ron Newman]

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What do you dislike about the science center building?

 

[sidewalks]

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It was a goofy concept (make a building resemble a polaroid camera) that never should have come to fruition. The manifestation of the gimmicky idea has little or no redeeming aesthetic features. It's like a fifth grader's idea writ large. "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we made a building that looked like a giant camera!" No, no it wouldn't.

 

[BeeLine]

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Stellar this shot may help.
It looks to be a metal screen on sliders, so you can move it to block or open the window space. You are correct, the same thing is on the S side of the addition.

Fogg Museum 7:31 (N face)

 

[Ron Newman]

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On the other hand, the science center building and its plaza both seem to be well used, busy, and functional. Together they are a major 'crossroads' of the Harvard campus.

 

[cca]

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It was a goofy concept (make a building resemble a polaroid camera) that never should have come to fruition. The manifestation of the gimmicky idea has little or no redeeming aesthetic features. It's like a fifth grader's idea writ large. "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we made a building that looked like a giant camera!" No, no it wouldn't.

Old wives tale. Don't believe it.

cca

 

[stellarfun]

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BeeLine, you are correct. It looks to be a screen panel on tracks.

Other renderings here:
http://www.designboom.com/architecture/renzo-piano-harvard-art-museums-renovation-underway/

Wonder how much this indulgence of architectural whimsy cost?

 

[Smartiro]

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Hmm, but as far as function goes - how is screen panel different from blinds?

 

[datadyne007]

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Hmm, but as far as function goes - how is screen panel different from blinds?

It's a massive difference. The best way to stop solar gain is to prevent from the outside because once the heat is in, it is in regardless of if you have the blinds drawn. Brise-soleil is a critical sustainable facade strategy.

Here's a rough section I just drew and scanned to explain:

 

[stellarfun]

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datadyne, although this sliding screen is on the north side, so any sunlight is indirect.

 

[cca]

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Its architecture folks ... this building has something like 1% glazing vs. solid at the gallery box. Solar heat gain is not a concern here. Up at the skylight level they are spending the curtainwall's weight in gold for external sunshading devises to act just as you are describing, however ...this "element" on the facade is a billboard for art.

Full disclosure. I believe in my heart that Renzo Piano is the worlds greatest living architect/craftsman. I love this building.

 

[Smartiro]

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datadyne, thanks for the explanation

I'm assuming that glass box itself does not move, right? And the railings on the wall are just for show....

 

[cca]

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datadyne, thanks for the explanation

I'm assuming that glass box itself does not move, right? And the railings on the wall are just for show....

Something here moves. I do not know to what extent. I think it is an operable glass wall. I also think it only happens on the Broadway side, not the Carpenter Center side.

cca

 

[Tombstoner]

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I believe in my heart that Renzo Piano is the worlds greatest living architect/craftsman. I love this building.

Just out of curiosity, as a self-confessed Piano-lover, what do you think of the Gardner addition? Personally, I can hardly think of a kind word for it, but for someone "on his page" at what level(s) do you think it works? And sorry--not meant to derail the thread.

 

[nm88]

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Its architecture folks ... this building has something like 1% glazing vs. solid at the gallery box. Solar heat gain is not a concern here. Up at the skylight level they are spending the curtainwall's weight in gold for external sunshading devises to act just as you are describing, however ...this "element" on the facade is a billboard for art.

Full disclosure. I believe in my heart that Renzo Piano is the worlds greatest living architect/craftsman. I love this building.

Renzo seems to have the museum commissions all to himself. Well, maybe Gehry gets a few. But Renzo is everywhere you look building museums.

 

[stellarfun]

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Maybe the sliding panel on the north side can be the screen for a nightly light show, like God is Dog Spelled Backwards, AKA Classical Gas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbqA-cGqUHY

If the Tour de France can project fireworks on the east facade of the Arc de Triomphe, why not art on the north side of the Fogg?

 

[itchy]

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This has the glorious aesthetic of the back side of a Market Basket.

No, let me take that back - at least the Market Basket has the monotony-breaking, functional presence of loading-dock doors.

For the hundreds of millions that this cost, it looks like Harvard got gypped pretty badly.

 

[stellarfun]

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This has the glorious aesthetic of the back side of a Market Basket.

No, let me take that back - at least the Market Basket has the monotony-breaking, functional presence of loading-dock doors.

For the hundreds of millions that this cost, it looks like Harvard got gypped pretty badly.

The basket of Market Basket museums is not an empty one..

 

[datadyne007]

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I really like Piano, but this facade falls flat on its face. The sections of the building and interior spacial relationships are absolutely incredible, but something went wrong with this facade.

Why couldn't we have gotten something similar to this for the Fogg?

Art Institute of Chicago

 

[stellarfun]

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I really like Piano, but this facade falls flat on its face. The sections of the building and interior spacial relationships are absolutely incredible, but something went wrong with this facade.

Why couldn't we have gotten something similar to this for the Fogg?

Art Institute of Chicago

Ah, maybe because that is a north facing facade?

And even with that, the entire first floor and part of the second floor, are not gallery space.

IIRC, the paintings in this room at the Hermitage are Italian Old Masters. The Hermitage's DaVinci is next to a window. All north facade, overlooking the river, Neva.