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The legally binding documents have all been FOIA'd and released. This is it. All other details still being hashed out are fungible, which if nothing else is a very strange and high-risk way for public institutions to manage their leverage with an entity well-known for being one of the country's top recipients of corporate welfare.


That should've been crystal clear by now, but we're well aware at AB that staying at a Holiday Inn Express every night means never having to read words before rambling out a disconnected string of them punctuated by a hackneyed zinger.
 
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The legally binding documents have all been FOIA'd and released. This is it. All other details still being hashed out are fungible, which if nothing else is a very strange and high-risk way for public institutions to manage their leverage with an entity well-known for being one of the country's top recipients of corporate welfare.


That should've been crystal clear by now, but we're well aware at AB that staying at a Holiday Inn Express every night means never having to read words before rambling out a disconnected string of them punctuated by a hackneyed zinger.

F-Line -- If you are willing to hold in abeyance your ideological perception on everything -- the GE Company and the relevant gov't agencies will present their plans about a month from now. Then -- you might have some issues worth discussing with some information to support your opinions.

However until February 18 you can say anything you want but outside of the formal signed MOU document -- everything else is just hot hot air and baseless speculation or an ad hominem attack towards a company which has been one of the foundations of US industry for over a century.
 
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If you are willing to hold in abeyance your ideological perception on everything. . .

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Don't ever change, Professor. I mean it. This stuff is gold.
 
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GE has signed its first lease of its move to Boston at 33-41 Farnsworth Street in Fort Point. This will be temporary space until a more permanent location can be found.
 
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GE has signed its first lease of its move to Boston at 33-41 Farnsworth Street in Fort Point. This will be temporary space until a more permanent location can be found.

Jumbo -- GE bought-out the lease currently held by Bulhorn -- they move in June 1 -- presumably they have an advance team operating out of some rent-a-office right now
 
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Globe: General Electric homes in on Fort Point Channel site

GE appears to be focusing their attention on 253 Summer and the (empty) Gillette warehouses and parking lot behind it. GE would likely want to buy and the owner of 253 Summer has been selling off local properties in recent months. P&G would probably be less willing to sell, and the zoning of their parcel would have to be changed to allow office construction.

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Great views of the post office.
 
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That's the best possible location for commuters. Only a 5-10 minute walk from South Station.
 
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Isn't that where they're supposed to relocate the Post Office to? I know that proposal isn't really going anywhere right now, but don't they want to preserve the space for it?
 
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Isn't that where they're supposed to relocate the Post Office to? I know that proposal isn't really going anywhere right now, but don't they want to preserve the space for it?

Nope

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Remind me again...why was the City falling over itself with promises to open up four-bridges-upstream Northern Ave. to auto traffic?
 
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Remind me again...why was the City falling over itself with promises to open up four-bridges-upstream Northern Ave. to auto traffic?

I'm becoming more and more of a believer that a good chunk, if not all, of the infrastructure improvements promised to GE have nothing to do with the company's arrival and would have happened whether they decided to move here or not. The Northern Avenue bride replacement had been in the works since October when the Coast Guard first demanded the current bridge be dismantled. It looks like the state and city had these projects cued up and ready to announce, but then when GE came on their radar they repackaged the regularly scheduled improvements as special "incentives" to woo them here.

If this is the case, great job Walsh and Baker administrations.
 
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I would preferred to leave Melcher Street in the old fort point channel area to smaller outfits. As many probably recall, originally the whole district was supposed to become filled with commercial businesses and nightlife with residential on top… Then when the market turn down they decided to make it all office space, but I still hold out hope that this could become a really cool happening spot. If General Electric moves there, that will definitely never happen.
 
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Post office is fine where it is.

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Um, the post office is a blight where it is. Waterfront property in downtown...
 
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Post office is fine where it is.

Tangent -- Post Office is obsolete and bloated -- both in general and in the specific case of the South Postal Annex

  • a) it was sited at the time when the mail traveled long distance by train -- now its air
  • b) it was designed for a time when most of the sorting and processing was by hand -- now its highly automated
  • c) the era of the high demand for the South Postal Annex is over -- USPO is facing a long term decline in demand for its services and decreases in its scale
  • d) current location and current security matters constrains the use of Dorchester Ave -- a key element of the future improved access to the Seaport / Innovation District as well as a future pedestrian mini-esplanade with recreational boating, etc.

Their best location is to be as close to Logan as possible -- such as E St. just off the Ted Williams Tunnel with easy access to both I-90 W and I-93
 
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Globe: General Electric homes in on Fort Point Channel site

GE appears to be focusing their attention on 253 Summer and the (empty) Gillette warehouses and parking lot behind it. GE would likely want to buy and the owner of 253 Summer has been selling off local properties in recent months. P&G would probably be less willing to sell, and the zoning of their parcel would have to be changed to allow office construction.

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JuymboBuc -- that location also offers GE an opportunity to have both the "traditional industrial era" open floor building on Summer St. for the "Digital Foundry" and a slim tower for the "Suits" in the CEO suite

I'm sure that P&G could be convinced to sell their parking lot if behind the GE Tower there was a State Street style parking garage shared with P&G and GE
 
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Great views of the post office.

LOL!

But you're point is spot on. That Fort Point Channel area has so much potential once the Post Office and Gillette move out.
 
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Keep it on topic please. Yes the USPO is on the wrong location now. No, GE isn't going to fix that.
 
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Keep it on topic please. Yes the USPO is on the wrong location now. No, GE isn't going to fix that.

I hear what you are saying, Meddlepal, but you are completely missing the big picture here. 253 Summer Street is NOT simply a real estate transaction. 253 Summer Street may be the most important potential real estate transaction in the history of the city of Boston.

Taken on it's own, you're right, 'it won't fix the USPO situation by itself', however it is the first turning point in the inevitable march towards it happening. More high priced visibility development and density along Fort Point Channel will accelerate the pressure to push the settlement talks between the city-state-feds. It is a VERY big deal to the future of the city - - with not only ramification to Fort Point and its potential for "picture postcard, dual side canyon", but more importantly, the transportation and economic ramifications for the expansion of South Station that it would help unlock. And then there is the massive low slung Gillette property.

***Just look above at that Globe map of 253 Summer Street (and the warehouses and parking lot behind it). A good 75% of that property is surface parking lot. Like probably most, I originally looked at the picture of that nice old building and thought "Is that it?" But when one looks at the birds eye view of that Globe map, the understanding changes.

That's a globally important player taking up a large frontage on the Channel. Everyone has already stated that the GE play is NOT merely about bringing 800 headquarters jobs to Boston - - the real story is that GE is intending their presence to be a PHYSICAL core, like a beehive, to attract talent and smaller businesses around it for collaboration. Think for a moment about that adjunct "Innovation Center" that the city and state threw into the deal and what that would do for the environs of that headquarters. THAT is the story right there. There will be many others congregating around the GE headquarters. GE is merely the catalyst. If it is 253 Summer Street that becomes that "beehive", that will inevitably transform both sides of the Channel. Real Estate price and development on both sides of the Channel would become more intense.

This is exactly what the USPS was waiting for - - to up their price to move. I wish they moved a long time ago, but have to give them kudos - - they played their hand well, were patient, and will reap far more as a result. So will Gillette. I think the happiest people dancing and drinking champagne upon hearing that GE is looking at 253 Summer Street were those at the heads of those two organizations.

.......and if GE picks 253 Summer Street (and the included land behind it), that will be the first real step (after the aborted Olympic bid last summer) towards transforming that semi-cul de sac area of Fort Point Channel away from the massive low slung, pedestrian and transportation-unfriendly developments of the USPS and Gillette.

So, yes, GE looking at 253 Summer is a VERY big deal for the city and its urban planning. And, if it happens, GE choosing the 253 Summer Street property for its headquarters would be the key to unlocking that door.

GE didn't leaving Fairfield Connecticut for the more expensive Boston (and over reportedly higher packages form NY, Georgia and others) just to collaborate via email and web conferencing with people in Toronto and Denver and Tokyo. They moved to be PHYSICALLY NEAR their collaborators. Oddly enough, in 2016, an era of cyberspace, this one is all about physical geography.
 
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