Green Line Extension to Medford & Union Sq

Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Why doesn't anyone think in terms of actual new neighborhoods?

The reason stated in the article is that Somerville is almost all residential and thus costs the city more in services. Office/commercial costs less and brings in more tax dollars. Somerville already has neighborhoods, they need balance. If we could take half of Kendall Sq and a quarter of Somerville and switch them then you would have two very balanced cities.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

People here bash Kendall Square a lot, with some reason. But there is merit to having an 'office park' well served by public transit, with all of the offices a short walk from the station.

And yes, there is strong desire to create jobs in Somerville so that it isn't just a bedroom community for Cambridge and Boston.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

But there is merit to having an 'office park' well served by public transit, with all of the offices a short walk from the station.

Yes, but that's what downtowns across North America are, without resembling office parks.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Most 'downtowns across North America' aren't full of tech companies, though.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

It doesn't have to look like an office park to be full of tech companies.

Downtown San Francisco is filled with tech companies. Flickr and Twitter and all kinds of startups begun by people who grew sick of Silicon Valley are located there.

More to the point, Seattle has just built a light rail line to an old industrial district it hopes to develop into a pedestrian-friendly urban tech zone.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Boston.com - January 10, 2010
Medford, Somerville officials urge Route 16 stop for Green Line
Posted January 8, 2010 09:00 AM

By Travis Andersen, Town Correspondent

As the public comment period on a Green Line Extension report draws to a close, officials in Medford and Somerville say the state must address several issues before breaking ground on the project, including potential land takings, the opening date for the Route 16 stop, and the location of a maintenance facility.

The state Department of Transportation (DOT) released a draft environmental impact report on the extension in November.

A spokesperson for the state Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs - which must sign off on the report before the project can move forward - said the agency has received about 225 comments so far. The comment period ends today at 5 p.m.

Ian Bowles, the state environmental secretary, will review the comments and the report before deciding on Jan. 15 to either let the project move forward or request a second draft report, his spokesperson Lisa Capone said.

Stations are slated to open in 2014 at Ball Square and College Avenue in Medford, and in the Brickbottom/Innerbelt area, Gilman Square, Lowell Street, and Union Square in Somerville.

A seventh station at Route 16 on the Medford-Somerville line is scheduled to open in 2016, delayed because of funding issues. Several lawmakers told Bowles in their comments that the station should open in 2014 instead.

"The entire project is premised on idea of reducing pollution and getting cars off of the road," said Democratic state Representative Carl Sciortino, who represents Medford and Somerville and serves as vice chair of the Joint Committee on Transportation. "The Route 16 stop provides us with the best opportunity to add new riders [to the subway]."

While Sciortino was putting the finishing touches on his letter on Thursday, state Senator Patricia Jehlen, also a Democrat representing both cities, said in her letter dated Dec. 10 that the state must reaffirm its commitment to building the Route 16 stop.

"I...would like to see a commitment to extending the Green Line to Rte. 16 put into writing," Jehlen wrote. "[Stopping] at College Ave does not meet the requirements of providing service to the 'Medford Hillside' neighborhood. Therefore, a firm commitment to complete the extension to Rte 16 is imperative."

It's also imperative that the state limit land takings to build the stop, Medford Mayor Michael McGlynn wrote in his letter dated Jan. 6.

The draft report includes a plan for Route 16 - which state officials have repeatedly called a "worst-case scenario" - that could require the leveling of an office complex in Medford that employs more than 200 workers and brings in roughly $160,000 in tax revenue each year.

McGlynn wrote that he could only back the stop if the state released a plan to limit land takings in the area, and minimize noise and air pollution, among other concerns.

"[State transit officials] have stated that such a plan exists but have not shown it," McGlynn wrote.

They did show an early preference for putting a maintenance facility in the Yard 8 section of Somerville - located near the Brickbottom area - and lawmakers representing the All-America City are crying foul in their letters.

"I would argue that the Yard 8 proposal should simply be thrown out with no further time wasted talking about it," said state Representative Denise Provost, a Somerville Democrat who was finishing her letter on Thursday afternoon.

Activists say putting the shop in Yard 8 would destroy local businesses, limit opportunities for new development, and introduce noise and light pollution to the neighborhood, among other pitfalls.

That's why Provost favors an option known as Mirror Scheme H, which would which would place the facility near the Boston Engine Terminal on the Cambridge-Somerville line.

She opposes a third location known as Option L, which would put the shop between the terminal and Yard 8.

"We have very sketchy information about [Option] L," she said. "But one thing that is certain is that it would eliminate two very large [property] tax parcels in Somerville, which the city can ill afford."

That thinking puts her at odds with state Representative Timothy Toomey, a Democrat representing Somerville who backs Option L.

He wrote in his letter dated Jan. 7 that the Mirror H proposal would "shift the potential noise pollution, detrimental effects on economic development and growth, and other harmful byproducts of the facility" to Cambridge, which he also represents.

But, Toomey wrote, Option L would protect the business and environmental interests of the Brickbottom community without harming Cambridge.

"While I still have reservations about Somerville bearing the burden of another MBTA industrial use, Option L should receive serious consideration as the maintenance facility site," he wrote.

Meanwhile, Somerville Mayor Joseph Curtatone is on record supporting Mirror H, and city spokesperson Tom Champion told the Globe in November that Curtatone and other officials have pushed for that option "behind the scenes."

City spokesperson Jaclyn Rossetti said in an e-mail that Curtatone would send his letter by the end of the week.

The most recent cost estimate for the entire project runs to about $932 million, or $804.8 million in 2008 dollars, a DOT spokesperson said, adding that the state expects to fund up to 60 percent of the project with federal money.


Got a last-minute thought on the report? Residents can submit comments to Holly Johnson of the state environmental policy office at holly.s.johnson@state.ma.us, and to Kate Fichter of the state Department of Transportation at katherine.fichter@eot.state.ma.us.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Article from the Somerville Journal. I think it makes sense to go to Rt. 16 even if parking isn't included.

Somerville, Medford divided on future of Green Line extension
Somerville Journal
By Meghann Ackerman
Jan 28, 2010

There seems to be a consensus that Somerville and Medford should present a unified front when petitioning the state to end the Green Line extension at Route 16 in Medford. But whether there is actually consensus between the two cities on the end point is debatable.

Aldermen met with members of the state delegation and the mayor?s office Monday night to start working on a stronger statement of support for the Green Line to go beyond College Avenue. Ward 6 Alderman Rebekah Gewirtz, whose Committee on Housing and Community Development held the meeting, said the Green Line not being extended into Medford was an ?alarming situation.?

The stop at Route 16 was not included in the scope of work the Central Transportation Planning Staff, a part of the Boston Region Metropolitan Planning Organization, was asked to study in conjunction with the Green Line extension. The fear among local and state legislators is that if the stop is excluded from studies, it could also be left off funding requests and, eventually, never built.

?Stopping at College Avenue does not meet the legal requirements,? said Rep. Carl Sciortino, D-Medford, referring to a lawsuit the Conservation Law Foundation won, which forced the extension to be built. ?If we stop at College Avenue by 2012 and they get the impression that they?ve met the legal obligation, we?ll lose the ability to ask for mitigation in case the Route 16 stop never happens or is delayed indefinitely.?

Sciortino, state Rep. Denise Provost, D-Somerville, and state Sen. Pat Jehlen, D-Somerville, said they would work in the legislature to help push the project forward, but said it would be helpful if Somerville and Medford presented a unified front on wanting the Route 16 stop.

Ken Krause, a member of the Medford Green Line Neighborhood Alliance, said there was support north of the border for the extension.

?We had 40 letters in favor of the Route 16 stop and two in opposition,? he said. ?As much as the administration has been on the sidelines, nowhere in the mayor?s own letter did he say he was opposed to the Route 16 stop.?

Earlier this month, Medford Mayor Michael McGlynn sent a response letter to the Massachusetts Department of Transportation?s latest draft environmental impact report and said without more studies on the Medford stop, he could not support the project.

In an interview Tuesday, McGlynn said his position hasn?t changed his position.

?I was the first one that asked that they study to the parkway, with the hopes that they would talk about transit-oriented development and other opportunities for Medford,? he said. ?Nobody understands better the importance of public transportation and transportation-oriented development than the citizens of Medford. There?s great potential there, but until they give us the answers, it?s tough to say, ?Let?s do it.??

One of McGlynn?s concerns has been the taking of 196 and 200 Boston Ave. to build a T terminal at Route 16. Sciortino said that in public meetings, MassDOT has said it has alternative plans that would not involve taking any buildings, and has presented a scenario where there takings as the worst case. On Tuesday morning, Sciortino sent a letter to Secretary of Transportation Jeffrey Mullan asking him to work with legislators and municipal leaders to keep the Route 16 stop and to make public any alternative plans for a Route 16 station.

McGlynn said in the next few weeks, he would meet with Mullan and talk about some of the problems he has with the Green Line extension.

?I want to see facts. I want to see the answer to the questions that we have asked,? he said.

Somerville Mayor Joe Curtatone said that, while he wants to work with Medford on the Green Line, he will fight to move the project with or without the other city.

?We will not wait or stand still,? he said. ?We want people with us side by side; that offer is always there, and we want to work with them to answer their unanswered questions, but we will not allow this opportunity to pass us by.?
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

196-200 Boston Ave. is a major office park and source of jobs and tax revenue to Medford, so it's proper to be concerned about it. However, I believe this issue has already been resolved and the current plan does not involve taking these buildings.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

If I'm viewing the right address, currently there's a small parking garage surrounded by lots that front Boston Ave at 196-200. Looks like more than enough room for a stop. Why couldn't the station replace the lots & garage w/out replacing the office buildings?
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Most likely the stop will be created by taking the U-Haul property (which nobody will much miss).
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Seems to me that Option L is the best choice will all things considered. It sticks the yard away from any residential developments and is pretty good from an operations standpoint.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

This is great news. It removes the only source of dissension regarding the Green Line in Somerville (the originally planned maintenance facility would have been right across the tracks from the Brickbottom Artists Building).
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

So is the only thing preventing this from starting construction North Point?
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

So is the only thing preventing this from starting construction North Point?

Nothing is preventing it from starting, its on schedule. The original schedule was extremely slow, and theyre sticking to it.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Hopefully that is the case, but I was under the idea that lechemere needs to get re-alligned and the developers at North Point are going to do that, but right now the NP developers are in some kind of legal battle and won't be building anything anytime soon.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

At least we'll have some wonderful Medford to Brickbottom and Union Square service if North Point doesn't get straightened out.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Am I not the only person here who thinks North Point is a really big mistake and should remain a major rail yard?
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Am I not the only person here who thinks North Point is a really big mistake and should remain a major rail yard?

Me. I think it's just one more loss of important infrastructure for the future.
 

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