Harvard - Allston Campus

I have a distinct bias against renters basically being given control over decision-making.

I realize this is classicist. It might even be wrong.

I felt this way when I rented, I feel this way now that I own.

When my rents get too high or my views are affected or I don't like my neighbors, I move.
 
Prominent developers quickly angled yesterday for a role in Harvard’s just-announced plan to build a massive 36-acre life sciences business park in Allston.

Among the interested parties: real estate tycoon Mortimer B. Zuckerman, the chairman of Boston Properties Inc. and a key player in the commercial development success of nearby Kendall Square; Skanska AB, the international construction firm that has built prominent facilities for Harvard; and National Development, which has built office and retail parks around Massachusetts.

Zuckerman said he is familiar with the Allston property because of his connections to Boston and Harvard — he is a donor and a Harvard Law School graduate — and has often talked with university officials about its potential.
http://articles.boston.com/2011-06-...fe-sciences-harvard-officials-enterprise-zone
 
I have a distinct bias against renters basically being given control over decision-making.

I realize this is classicist. It might even be wrong.

I felt this way when I rented, I feel this way now that I own.

When my rents get too high or my views are affected or I don't like my neighbors, I move.

I don't think the renters give a rodent's behind. A high percentage of them go to institutions of higher education along Comm Ave; I believe very few go to Harvard.

I would not be shocked if some/much of the neighbors' impatience stems from a hope that when Harvard builds in Allston, they can make a quick financial killing because of residential property values soaring in that area. After all, they didn't buy there in the first place because they wanted to be near the warehouses, freight depots, storage yards, contractor garages, etc.

Western Ave from N. Harvard St and Barry's Corner looking toward Cambridge.
harvard_allston_aerial.jpg

I am guessing the photo is circa 2000, after Harvard bought the land, but before it started tearing buildings down.
 
There is fencing up around the vacant kmart and the vacant half of the shows building. Looks like this should get going soon!

Edit: At the Brighton mills.
 
There is fencing up around the vacant kmart and the vacant half of the shows building. Looks like this should get going soon!

Edit: At the Brighton mills.

I believe the Crimson or some other Harvard media source said Charlesview would start construction in July. For the moment, the Charlesview owners are deferring the condo mini-towers on the north side of Western Ave., so this phase will basically relocate the tenants from the current Charlesview.
 
HHaaaHHHHvd has a problem to replicate Kendall / Cambridge Center you need MIT next door

Alston has what the Stadium, Business School and some other miscellaneous stuff -- none of the key science faculty want to leave the area around the YYYYYYYahhhhhd

If they don't leave -- sure they can consult -- but they can just as easily do that in the South Boston Innovation District, near to BU Med, at Blackfan or even Kendall as in Alston

What H should do is work with a Pharma to build a mfg plant for some new wonder drug such as Shire in Lexington and then wok toward R&D labs later

The plant needs to have quality control labs and skilled (i.e. Ph.Ds) working there and so the nucleus of a potential R&D cluster will have been planted
 
^^^^The final bit of financing for Charlesview came through on Tuesday.
 
MassHousing OKs $106.2M loan for Charlesview project

By Herald Staff
Tuesday, July 5, 2011

MassHousing has closed a $106.2 million loan for the redevelopment of the controversial Charlesview Apartments project in Brighton.

The transaction marks the second-largest financing of a single rental development in the quasi-public agency’s history and will result in 240 new apartments for low-income residents.

Charlesview involved a land swap between Charlesview Inc., which owns the apartment complex, and Harvard University. Under the plan approved by the city, the distressed 213-unit low-income Section 8 development on Western Avenue in Allston will be demolished and rebuilt on a new site on Western Avenue in Brighton.

The project developers are Charlesview Inc., and Community Builders. Harvard will take control of the current Charlesview site at Western Avenue and North Harvard Street in Allston where it will expand its educational facilities near the Harvard Business School. Harvard is committing $72 million to the project.

“This is a wonderful development for the residents of Charlesview, the Allston Brighton neighborhood, and the city of Boston,” said Mayor Thomas M. Menino in a statement. “It will provide beautiful new homes for families, revitalize and enliven a section of our city and add much-needed jobs.”

The redevelopment will also include new street patterns, a park, community center, 14,000 square feet of retail space and underground parking for 242 vehicles.

In 2008, Community Builders proposed 400 units in a dozen buildings, some as high as 10 stories. But in a series of community meetings, neighbors made it clear that they wanted a less-dense development.

Link
 
Sounds like they are just planning, which years on this website has taught me to not hold my breath on.
 
Here is an aerial from the Globe, though I think the photo may originally be from Harvard. It shows the newly built Library Park in the lower right (though I couldn't see the lions). The park was built by Harvard as part of the agreement to build the Science Complex.

How much change they can do to the above-surface building design is probably limited by the slab and what's beneath it, which were designed, configured, and built for the buildings that were to go on top. I wouldn't be surprised if there is not already $150 million or so in sunk construction costs for the slab.

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Article:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/business...on-expansion/mCj7SPDxqnLBRS7j1lsccO/story.xml

A Herald graphic:
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Herald article excerpts:
Allston neighbors worried that their concerns would be steamrolled as Harvard University announced plans to jumpstart its campus expansion yesterday, but others were happy to hear that work on the $1 billion health and life science center and other projects was getting started again.


“When Harvard stopped construction of the science center two years ago, the neighborhood was in limbo,” said Paul Berkeley, president of the Allston Civic Association. “This lays down a new direction on when things will start to happen.”


But Harry Mattison, a member of the Harvard Allston Task Force, was skeptical. It’s unclear what role, if any, the community will play in the planning process, he said.


There are lots of different parcels in play,” he said. “It will take time, good faith negotiating and planning between Harvard, the city and the community to figure out what makes sense. They’re going from zero to 60 real fast and I fear the neighborhood will be left out.”

http://bostonherald.com.nyud.net/business/real_estate/view.bg?articleid=1367525&position=0

Mr. Mattison complains when Harvard does nothing, and complains when it does do something.
 
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Looks like Haaahvd got a hold of the MIT 2030 planning document and are now trying to transpose Kendall / Cambridge Center to Alston -- I'm thinking Western Ave is Main St.
 
Mr. Mattison complains when Harvard does nothing, and complains when it does do something.

Is there a point to this vague personal attack? It would be great to have a principled discussion about what would be the best possible development of Barry's Corner, but is this discussion group only for people who don't say critical things about Harvard?
 
Is there a point to this vague personal attack? It would be great to have a principled discussion about what would be the best possible development of Barry's Corner, but is this discussion group only for people who don't say critical things about Harvard?

To my eyes, that didn't really come across as a personal attack. Criticisms of Harvard are of course welcome but in doing so you should be aware that others may criticize your criticisms. It goes both ways.

What do you feel Harvard is doing wrong here? What could they do that you would not find acceptable? How hard would they need to try in order to make this area worse than it is currently?
 
Is there a point to this vague personal attack? It would be great to have a principled discussion about what would be the best possible development of Barry's Corner, but is this discussion group only for people who don't say critical things about Harvard?

Living as I do in a neighborhood which has seen Harvard build two new buildings in the past eight years, renovate a third, and just receive approval -- after being sent back to the drawing board because of massing-- for a residence hall on an intersection with as much traffic as Barry's Corner, and all this was done without the sturm und drang that seems to accompany nearly everything Harvard does, proposes to do, pr contemplates doing in North Allston.

This is a community that opposed density in the new Charlesview (and objects still to the density of the deferred condo mid-rise part of Charlesview), and yet now seeks density at Barry's Corner? This is a community that now wants Harvard to build residential units for young families, but not families who happen to be headed by graduate students? This is a community half of whom applaud a new pizza restaurant, while the other half reject any establishment that can serve pizza with alcohol. This is a community that decries a row of vacant storefronts, knowing they would soon be demolished. This is a community, some of whom complained about the prospect of visitors to a modest-sized art gallery at Barry's Corner being able to see into backyards. And this is a community that seems none too happy about the Skating Club moving a few streets down.

The problem with any plan for Barry's Corners is that Harvard, the city, and the community won't discuss the elephant in the room, which is the Smith playground. Move the playground and then Barry's Corner has real potential. Leave the playground, and the development of Barry's Corner will be piecemeal, incremental, and, at the end, more likely a hodge podge than not. (As it is, I believe Harvard still does not own two of the parcels in the so-called keystone block on the southeast corner of Barry's Corner. Is Harvard going to buy these, build around them, or wait until nearly forever?)

I can appreciate that in a community where 80 percent of the households are renting, and their median age suggests they're highly transient. that a community would not want to reinforce those values, but to reverse such really can only be done with density; the land is far too scarce in this area to do otherwise.
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Finally, when the media consistently seek out a source when they want an attributable quote regarding the glass being half full, or a quarter full, or fully empty, then one should not complain about how one's published views are perceived.
 
Maybe it's just the nature of journalism, but I cannot recall ever seeing an article that said "the community applauded Harvard for creating a beautiful new park for everyone to use" or "the community expressed excitement about a new restaurant/gallery/business that is proposed for the neighborhood since it will enliven the area and give residents more opportunities to dine/shop within walking distance".

I understand that Harvard may not do everything exactly how everyone wants, but when they do something that's good for the neighborhood, especially something that is not necessarily in their own best interest, they deserve at least some credit.

It is very frustrating to read so many articles where the community chastises Harvard for not building quickly enough, but then when they propose something that same community always finds a way to shout it down (too tall, will generate too much noise, wrong kind of restaurant/store, etc). It just makes the community sound unreasonable and ungrateful and really hurts their credibility.
 
I think the media in general has a very strong pro-Nimby bias. The "everyone applauds" story has much less drama than "Harry and co stand up to big bad Harvard!" or "Ned and co stand up to big bad Columbus Center!" or reductio ad absurdum, "West End tenant fights to save plants from hulking sun-blocking garage redevelopment!"
 
Thanks for those Harry. I had not seen them!

Good point Shepard. I recall lots of coverage of a handful of people who are vehemently opposed to a new office/condo tower on top of Nieman Marcus in Copley Square. However, a poll on that same website showed that well over 70% of the readers were in support of the tower!
 

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