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Nonsense. The ICA was designed to be oriented to the harbor, and looks good from that perspective. You can see the gantry crane inspiration, and the window that looks onto the water from the computer lab is great (until Fan Pier's developers fuck it up with their marina).

Constantly comparing its ass end, which was always designed to be hidden by the rest of Fan Pier, to Liberty Wharf, which is oriented along a major street, is unfair.

(The ICA's punk haircut still sucks, though. And the logo? How very 128 of them.)
 
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Globe: http://www.boston.com/business/arti...x_showcases_public_open_spaces/?p1=News_links

Seems like a lot of restaurants when you also include the office space, but I'm looking forward to this being completed.





This is not your father?s Jimmy?s Harborside. With walls of glass, exotic woods, and sharply drawn angles, the new Liberty Wharf complex on the South Boston Waterfront is everything its predecessor was not: sleek, open and inviting.

Gone from the Northern Avenue property are Jimmy?s white stone walls and massive red sign, features that made the shuttered eatery a relic of a different era, when the waterfront was the province of industry and mostly walled off from the public.

In its place is a $60 million three-building complex by Cresset Development LLC that will include four restaurants, a plaza with outdoor seating on the water, and a public marina. One of the buildings will be a Legal Sea Foods that will have its own 4,000-square-foot roof deck, with a fireplace and a large, circular bar. It is scheduled to open this winter.

?We really tried to activate this space and make it more accessible,?? said John Baxter, one of Cresset?s three principals. ?It?s amazing that Boston has always had its back to the water in some regards.??

Liberty Wharf offers a glimpse of how new development can change the Seaport District, where many other long-planned projects are only now inching forward. Cresset razed the old Jimmy?s and its crumbling wharf, and constructed three glass-walled buildings, leaving enough space between them for public access to the waterfront. The project was aided by $2.6 million in federal money awarded by the city.

?Its uses are consistent with the kind of energy we?re trying to create in the Innovation District,?? said Boston Redevelopment Authority director John Palmieri, referring to the name the Menino administration has given to the Seaport area in an effort to attract technology companies.

The new complex, designed by Elkus Manfredi Architects, includes a 600-foot addition to the city?s Harborwalk and offers sweeping views of the water and city from a number of vantage points. The Harborwalk boardwalk is made of Brazilian hardwood, which was also used as interior and exterior finishes in the new buildings. There will also be a ramp and floating docks to accommodate water taxis, ferries, and private boaters.

The main building will include the three other restaurants: Del Frisco?s, a Houston-based steak house; a Jerry Remy?s sports bar; and a yet-to-be named Mexican restaurant.

The upper portion of the building will be office space, though Cresset has yet to find tenants for it.

A third building will be more like an enlarged kiosk where Cresset is looking to have a cafe or wine bar.

In a nod to their predecessor, the owners of Legal Sea Foods said they will name their new restaurant Legal?s Harborside. Housed in its own building, the 20,000-square-foot restaurant will be unlike any other in the Legal chain, said owner Roger Berkowitz.

?We want to take advantage of the water location to do something special,?? Berkowitz said. ?It?s going to have universal appeal.??

Berkowitz said the first floor will offer casual fare, while the second will be traditional fine dining that will showcase more ?exotic seafood that doesn?t often make its way onto Boston menus.??

The roof deck will offer cocktails and lighter cuisine.
 
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How many Legal Seafoods do we have here... There isn't enough?
 
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I understand the branding decision behind Legal Test Kitchen but Legal Harborside seems like a mishmash. As ^ points out, with so many Legals in the area they could have completely de-emphasized the Legal brand and instead gone with a one-of-a-kind approach and feel to really differentiate the location. Sticking with Jimmy's Harborside as a name and serving its signature dishes might have been a more worthwhile approach.
 
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?Its uses are consistent with the kind of energy we?re trying to create in the Innovation District,?? said Boston Redevelopment Authority director John Palmieri, referring to the name the Menino administration has given to the Seaport area in an effort to attract technology companies.

What a reach of a statement.
 
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God, in that context it looks like the first post-communist building in the suburbs of Prague.
 
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It's mindboggling to me, that with the stunning harbor and city views surrounding his property, that Fallon devoted so much of his apartment buildings to solid walls instead of glass curtain walls and balcony's. What was he thinking?? The guy has no taste, no style, no imagination, no class!
 
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What was he thinking?? !

"If there are less windows, there will be less views. If there will be less views, there will be less views blocked. Less views blocked means less oppositions for future development. EUREKA!"

lol just kidding.
 
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Buildings like the Park Ave apartments will be torn down in 20-30 years and derided as the worst examples of what the previous decade had to offer. I believe the ICA will be one of the few buildings to ride out the next wave of redevelopment at the Seaport.

I'm still hoping that the endless delays in this phase will give developers time to notice how atrocious some of their proposals are, but I don't see that happening. A delay of 5 to 10 years will give us structures that are not only mediocre, but out of date as well.
 
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Is it me? Or do some of these renderings/current buildings seem a bit art deco? The photo above doesn't look "comtemporary." I'm not complaining. It actually looks nice. But some of these designs look like they're straight out of the 1960's.
 
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^There has been a recent influence of horizontal decorative elements, especially in smaller infill projects. That is probably the similarity to 60s architecture you reference. I agree, not a bad thing.
 
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From the first renderings, this project has reminded me of Aalto's Villa Mairea on steroids. Check out the materials palate, and the angled bays on the second level. I can also see a bit of steamship deco in the building's massing.
 
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wonderful addition to south boston
 
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Boston.com in the Business section just posted an article that Del Frisco's Steak House, a Dallas Texas chain, is opening in April at Liberty Wharf. So there will be Legal's Flagship, Jerry Remy's Sports Bar, and this Del Frisco's place. Is this a good thing? I've never been to one so I don't know. But I can imagine it will be expensive. Anyone here ever been to a Del Frisco's? What can we expect?
 
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I really like this, but I think there's too much wood on the street there. It looks good on the side, it blends well, nice and subtle. But on the street side it's like "WOOSH. I AM WOOD. I AM HERE."

But I think this looks really cool.
 

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