Logan Airport Flights and Airlines Discussion

So sick of the separated United terminals. Flew out of Terminal C to SFO on United on Tuesday night and on SFO-BOS flight back last night we landed in Terminal A. Was a group of 20-25 of us trekking through the parking garage at 1am back to the Terminal C side. Don't know what it's going to take to fix this but don't see any solution near-term.

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They will move into new space currently under construction at Terminal B. Essentially the area formerly occupied by American Eagle is being gutted and substantially enlarged, acting as a connector to the US Shuttle wing. I believe it will have eight gates, plus the obligatory lounge/retail space and expanded ticketing and baggage facilities.
 
They will move into new space currently under construction at Terminal B. Essentially the area formerly occupied by American Eagle is being gutted and substantially enlarged, acting as a connector to the US Shuttle wing. I believe it will have eight gates, plus the obligatory lounge/retail space and expanded ticketing and baggage facilities.

United's operations at both C and A are moving to a consolidated B? I assume LCC/AA will give up some gates once the merger is complete.
 
United's operations at both C and A are moving to a consolidated B? I assume LCC/AA will give up some gates once the merger is complete.

Massport's plan, at least as it stood before the AA/US merger came to fruition, was for United to occupy the eight gate addition currently under construction with American occupying only the pier portion of the terminal and US/AC remaining as they are on the other side. As part of the work, a connector will be constructed between the food court and Virgin America's gates allowing for a single security checkpoint accessing all gates and permitting passengers to move freely in and access concessions throughout the secure side. With the AA/US merger happening, I'm admittedly a bit perplexed as to the optimum arrangement. I think simply moving AA over to the US side would leave them in a precarious position on gate utilization, particularly at the busier times.
 
Massport's plan, at least as it stood before the AA/US merger came to fruition, was for United to occupy the eight gate addition currently under construction with American occupying only the pier portion of the terminal and US/AC remaining as they are on the other side. As part of the work, a connector will be constructed between the food court and Virgin America's gates allowing for a single security checkpoint accessing all gates and permitting passengers to move freely in and access concessions throughout the secure side. With the AA/US merger happening, I'm admittedly a bit perplexed as to the optimum arrangement. I think simply moving AA over to the US side would leave them in a precarious position on gate utilization, particularly at the busier times.

Wonder if you could force Spirit/Virgin into A or C freeing up 2 gates, have AA/LCC on one side, and United and AA/LCC express/NY shuttles on the other side.
 
Terminal C has been spoken for. Once United is out, JetBlue will take all of their gates. I would imagine there's plenty of space in Terminal A though. Delta's operating well under capacity and with pmCO on their way out, that should open another four or five gates. Delta has been rumored to have expansion plans but I don't see it happening. I see no pressing reason to move Virgin, but Spirit and Alaska would do well to move. The way I would see it breaking down is merged AA in Terminal B West with some spill-over into the new wing and then United and Air Canada in the remainder of the new space and the current AA pier with Virgin staying put.
 
Terminal C has been spoken for. Once United is out, JetBlue will take all of their gates.

And JetBlue has earned it. They did a great job upgrading the terminal. Now if only they could do something about the brutal pickup/dropoff situation.
 
Obviously the ticketing hall upgrades and security centralization came out well but have they done much in the way of improvements post-security? I haven't been on a flight out of C in a few years but that had to be one of the most depressing terminal spaces I've been through nearly anywhere.
 
Suffolk's press release explains the uncertainty about dates.


The additional months may involve conversion /deconstruction of existing rental car lots and buildings into developable space, assuming that is part of the overall contract.

It should be open and functioning in 2013. I believe you are correct. After the garage is occupied, they will continue with a new taxi pool where Avis is currently located, which is in the scope of the project.

Just last week they started construction on the Avis QTA.

Hertz is currently using a portion of the garage right now (However, no customers are allowed inside.) It is huge!!!
 
And JetBlue has earned it. They did a great job upgrading the terminal. Now if only they could do something about the brutal pickup/dropoff situation.

Terminal C is consistently a mess. I think the consolidated busing system will help, but they need to fix the terminal B exit. Terminal C traffic often backs up the road and blocks the terminal B exit.

I don't know if they have any solid plans, but once the busing is fixed, perhaps they will open a second pick up lane and move all busing closest to the terminal.
 
Obviously the ticketing hall upgrades and security centralization came out well but have they done much in the way of improvements post-security? I haven't been on a flight out of C in a few years but that had to be one of the most depressing terminal spaces I've been through nearly anywhere.

It really is. It has low ceiling and very poor light. I don't think it needs a drastic overall, but if you could somehow build a raised roof above the existing one and then knock down the existing roof it would be so much better. It feels crushingly small, especially when coming from the redone pre-security area.
 
I would imagine there's plenty of space in Terminal A though. Delta's operating well under capacity and with pmCO on their way out, that should open another four or five gates. Delta has been rumored to have expansion plans but I don't see it happening. I see no pressing reason to move Virgin, but Spirit and Alaska would do well to move. The way I would see it breaking down is merged AA in Terminal B West with some spill-over into the new wing and then United and Air Canada in the remainder of the new space and the current AA pier with Virgin staying put.

Delta has bought 49% of Virgin Atlantic, shouldn't Delta be thinking in terms of collecting into their terminal anyone who isn't JetBlue, AA, UA/CO or US? (Like Alaska, both Virgins, and Alaska?
 
Obviously the ticketing hall upgrades and security centralization came out well but have they done much in the way of improvements post-security? I haven't been on a flight out of C in a few years but that had to be one of the most depressing terminal spaces I've been through nearly anywhere.

Choo is right, there's low ceilings in there. But they've brought in new retail, and I'm not sure what they can do about pickup/drop off (which is brutal).
 
As a person who travels for business almost every week, I would say Logan is one of the easier airports to negotiate as long as you don't have to change terminals. I would say what Logan really needs most is security side buses and security side moving walkways. IMO Logan is probably average in terms of aesthetics but that is low on my list of priorities. Compared to other major cities, what Logan is missing is a really large network of nonstop flights since, as we all know, it is not a hub for any major airline. I hope Jetblue does have 150 flights a day once it gets terminal C, and I hope that Delta does expand its service. The international terminal really is underutilized and if these 2 airlines could create mini hubs we would have a lot more options for quicker business trips and nonstop international routes. As a person who flies all the time, being able to spend one less night on the road because of more nonstop flights is worth far more than retail or good lighting. Being able to get to my international destination with 0 or one less stop is priceless.
 
Delta has bought 49% of Virgin Atlantic, shouldn't Delta be thinking in terms of collecting into their terminal anyone who isn't JetBlue, AA, UA/CO or US? (Like Alaska, both Virgins, and Alaska?

Virgin America is still a separate company (although with some connections still) so may make sense anyways to put them in A.
 
Is it realistic to ever think Logan can be a hub? It is at the far northeast corner of the US, after all. I would not expect a hub in San Diego either, for the same reason.
 
Is it realistic to ever think Logan can be a hub? It is at the far northeast corner of the US, after all. I would not expect a hub in San Diego either, for the same reason.

San Diego isnt a hub, but Tijuana is a major one.

It even has the infrastructure for a cross-border terminal
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Boston could be a good Europe hub, because the flights come this way anyway.
 
Is it realistic to ever think Logan can be a hub? It is at the far northeast corner of the US, after all. I would not expect a hub in San Diego either, for the same reason.

The reason San Diego and Boston aren't hubs is because of Los Angeles and New York, not because of being located in a corner of the US. In contrast, Miami and Seattle are highly successful hubs despite their locations in the far southeastern and northwestern extremes of the continental US.

Logan could be a major European hub if an airline like JetBlue ever started services, but the lack of FIS in multiple terminals is a pain and we have so many European carriers already that competition would be pretty fierce to start. San Diego, on the other hand, wouldn't be a viable international hub because of its physical location and runway length.
 
Miami is a hub because it's a massive market to Latin America and it's geographically positioned as a stopping point for those coming/going to that region. For a person flying Minneapolis/St. Paul to San Juan, making a stop in Miami makes sense. Not sure if anyone has ever flown to Miami between November and April, but every time I have, the plane from Boston will be completely full and at baggage claim in Miami a handful of people will be waiting. That airport connects a lot of people.

Boston could and would be a good mini hub for European service. Most of Western Europe can be reached via a 752 and Logan has solid to demand to/from Europe to boot.

But there are too many factors going against it, such as the terminal setup, the fact that legacies have been focusing solely on their true hubs from any non-hub city and you have JFK, Newark and to a lesser extent Philadelphia sucking up a ton of European capacity.
 
Alaska will be adding a third daily flight to Seattle for the summer schedule.
 

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