MA Casino Developments

And all of that construction would have been in East Boston. The Host-Community Agreement between Suffolk and the city of Revere actually says that no significant construction is to happen in Revere. They're going to have to tear that up and start over if they are really serious about now trying to build a Revere-only casino.
 
It's over for Suffolk Downs. Deleo is walking away, they have zero chance unless the MGC grants an extension, and the chances of that are even less
 
ChelseaDweller said:
Last slightly off topic post, that Everett workshop is amazing. Especially the Heavy Rail part. I've always thought of those guys as analogous to the Apollo 13 Engineers problem solving the filtration/air system on the LEM.
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That's a huge stretch -- last time I checked no-one's life was immediately at stake / saved based on any recent innovation developed in the Everett Workshop

Between the Air Filtration and the even more amazing redo by the Draper folks of the LEMs computer and navigation system to make it into a true space faring craft -- you had tour-de-force - in time/ mission / life-critical engineering
 
MBTAddict said:
I disagree. I think the MGC would be in a pretty powerful spot if they had the stones to say "Nope, none of you were good enough. Go back and try again." It would show that they actually want to do this right, not just quickly.
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You are joking, right? Do this "quickly?" From the time the law was proposed to the time our first full casino opens, it has to be one of the longest casino approval processes in history. It will likely be 3 years from the time the law was passed to the time that construction even starts and that doesn't include the years of lawmaker negotiations. It has taken them 2 years to more or less just solicit and preliminary review/weed out applications. You can say a lot of negative things about the gaming commission, but you have to be completely oblivious to the process to even suggest that they are moving too quickly with anything. Almost any other jurisdiction would have awarded the licenses by now, 2 years into the post-legislation approval process.

I just cannot fathom how anyone could think the gaming commission could come away looking good if their 2+ year approval process netted zero developers for the most lucrative license and they had to start that process again nearly from scratch.
 
We wouldn't have casinos anywhere (which would make me happy) if not for Deval Patrick and Bobby "Slots" DeLeo.

Thanks, a-holes.

BRING BACK SAL!
 
BosDevelop said:
You are joking, right? Do this "quickly?" From the time the law was proposed to the time our first full casino opens, it has to be one of the longest casino approval processes in history. It will likely be 3 years from the time the law was passed to the time that construction even starts and that doesn't include the years of lawmaker negotiations. It has taken them 2 years to more or less just solicit and preliminary review/weed out applications. You can say a lot of negative things about the gaming commission, but you have to be completely oblivious to the process to even suggest that they are moving too quickly with anything. Almost any other jurisdiction would have awarded the licenses by now, 2 years into the post-legislation approval process.

I just cannot fathom how anyone could think the gaming commission could come away looking good if their 2+ year approval process netted zero developers for the most lucrative license and they had to start that process again nearly from scratch.
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Ok, I admit it - "quickly" was the wrong word choice.

But what I was trying to get across was that I would view this as the MGC flexing its muscle if no one got approved due mostly to background check issues, and given that I am personally ambivalent toward casinos, I'm fine if it takes longer.
 
JohnAKeith said:
We wouldn't have casinos anywhere (which would make me happy) if not for Deval Patrick and Bobby "Slots" DeLeo.
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Except for the 3 casinos that are mere miles across our borders. It really grinds my gears that the general anti-casino sentiment appears to be: keno, scratch tickets, numbers games etc. = eh whatever and casinos = wow, how could we ever allow such despicable things in our communities. I have said this before here but it's like the beer/wine drinker who is appalled at people who enjoy a scotch. Massachusetts hypocrisy at its finest.
 
MBTAddict said:
But what I was trying to get across was that I would view this as the MGC flexing its muscle if no one got approved due mostly to background check issues, and given that I am personally ambivalent toward casinos, I'm fine if it takes longer.
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I certainly don't doubt your personal view point. But can't you see the media all over the Gaming Commission if their years long process netted no suitable developers for the most lucrative license? The epic fail headlines would write themselves. And if that happens, and the process re-started all over again, precisely which developers with deep enough pockets are going to want to touch this mess with a ten foot poll? A re-do of the entire process will not result in a better project/developer.
 
I was seven when the Lottery first opened doors.

I tried to protest but I had homework and a paper route.
 
BosDevelop said:
I certainly don't doubt your personal view point. But can't you see the media all over the Gaming Commission if their years long process netted no suitable developers for the most lucrative license? The epic fail headlines would write themselves. And if that happens, and the process re-started all over again, precisely which developers with deep enough pockets are going to want to touch this mess with a ten foot poll? A re-do of the entire process will not result in a better project/developer.
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Everybody seems to forget that the Suffolk Downs group has already been deemed suitable and they own the Wonderland race track property, which is completely in Revere and is just as - if not more - accessible from the Blue Line than the horse track.

I think it's very plausible that the MGC takes a pass on this go round, giving SD the chance to regroup with another gaming partner - perhaps Rush Street, which I believe has also been cleared by the MGC. They hold a re-vote sometime in the spring in Revere, which based on history, would likely pass. Suddenly they are in the drivers seat, and the group that everyone assumed was a forgone conclusion to get the casino license is back in the game.
 
^It's possible. But if Wynn is approved, why should the MGC gift it to Revere over Everett. There is no compelling reason for such gamesmanship. If they wanted it to be just Suffolk Downs, they should have set up the law as such.

I don't have skin in the game and have no preference about either facility or casinos in general. But that 'hey lets make up a rule' by the commission would be really bad.
 
^Let's wait for Wynn to be approved, which is looking worse and worse by the day
 
choo said:
^It's possible. But if Wynn is approved, why should the MGC gift it to Revere over Everett. There is no compelling reason for such gamesmanship. If they wanted it to be just Suffolk Downs, they should have set up the law as such.

I don't have skin in the game and have no preference about either facility or casinos in general. But that 'hey lets make up a rule' by the commission would be really bad.
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If Wynn deemed suitable to apply and is able to finalize his applicatoin by Dec. 31 (assuming the Milford plan doesn't materialize) then he will likely get the license. My scenario assumes that either 1. Wynn is deemed unsuitable by the MGC, or 2. Wynn walks away either because of a lack of interest in the project or to stick it to the MGC.

At that point, who would really be left in the market who could propose and be approved for a casino?
 
I feel like Everett would be in better position to bring in a new operator if Wynn backs out better then revere could position Suffolk downs
 
JohnAKeith said:
We wouldn't have casinos anywhere (which would make me happy) if not for Deval Patrick and Bobby "Slots" DeLeo.

Thanks, a-holes.

BRING BACK SAL!
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John -- talk of Corruption -- Sal is a guest of the Federal Bureau of Prisons

Bobby and Patty are still innocent until proven guilty
 
JohnAKeith said:
I was seven when the Lottery first opened doors.

I tried to protest but I had homework and a paper route.
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please tell us about your efforts to ban or curtail lottery games once you became of voting age.


Oh and there is still one big casino player who has been on the sidelines this entire time. He has local roots as well.
 
SeamusMcFly said:
He also said he had no interest and it was a bad idea for the state.
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I recall him saying he had no interest but have no recollection of him saying a casino would be bad for the state. Or did you mean he said that multiple casinos in Mass were a bad idea. Don't forget though that his comments came when everyone and their mother in the industry was digging their heels in and hoping to get one of the licenses. Now that dust has settled and there may be few, if any, viable candidates left, he may feel differently about getting involved in the process.
 
The only problem with state lottery is most of the people that actually play are the ones that get the most assistance through EBT cards or Welfare checks, Housing.

Very sad and demoralizing tale. Instead of trying to focus your energy on doing something positive to better yourself they just continue gamble on longshots.

I have no problem with State Lottery but seriously everytime I Walk into a convient store their are the most demoralized souls sitting there waiting for numbers
 
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