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Wouldn't be nice if, instead, they broke the lot up in to smaller blocks with narrow, crooked streets and subdivided the blocks into small lots and built 5-6 story mixed use buildings with ground floor retail.
 
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have you tried the Rox?

I haven't no. I should try to get down there. Caught a couple NS Spirit games up in Lynn a few years back. They had a nice little ballpark. $3 tix and $4 Sam Adams.
 
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I'd really like to see this get done. Would be nice to see a ballgame without having to sell a vital organ.

the PawSox used to be where i would go. Cheep and alot of time you could see someone from the Red Sox playing after an injury.
 
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http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/Final Malden Park Renderings-6.jpg
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From Boston.com story about proposed ballpark

A Boston development group last night made its first public pitch for Malden Park, a $50 million minor league baseball stadium proposed for the current site of a National Grid facility on Commercial Street.

Boston Baseball Field of Dreams, led by lawyer Alex Bok, proposes a 6,372-seat stadium that would host a team from the Atlantic League of Professional Baseball. The independent league has eight teams, whose players include college all-stars warming up for the pros, and former Major League players rehabbing to get back to the big leagues.

A standing-room-only crowd filled the City Council chamber at Malden Government Center to view a 3D presentation of the project, one of the largest developments ever proposed for downtown Malden. The synthetic turf field also would be available to the Malden High baseball team.

"I am grateful they chose our community," said Mayor Gary Christenson, who organized the public meeting. "I look forward to learning about this unique opportunity."

The red-brick stadium would feature a 360-degree concourse, 16 private boxes, and a children's play area. In addition to concession stands, a restaurant would be open year-round. A grass picnic area would allow patrons to spread out a blanket while watching a game. A plaza, opening onto Commercial Street, would provide a dramatic entrance, with space available for pre-game entertainment.

Aerial view from the outfield of the proposed Malden Park.
"Every game is an event," Bok said. "We want to be bring affordable, family fun to Malden ... We have brought together an amazing team to bring this to you."

The project's all-star team includes architects, baseball analysts and finance advisers with experience building minor league stadiums and Major League venues such as Camden Yards, home to the Baltimore Orioles. Malden Park would be modeled on a minor league stadium in Missouri that used by a Double-A affiliate of the St. Louis Cardinals.

Congressman Edward J. Markey, a Malden Democrat, was on hand to lend his support for the proposed Malden Park.

"This is such an exciting night," said Markey, who said he lives about six blocks from the proposed ballpark. "I think all of us came here to be a part of this hopeful, new development. This can really be an historic moment for our city."

The park would take up an entire city block on Commercial Street, across from the MBTA Orange Line. The proximity to public transportation makes the site ideal for a ballpark, proponents said.

"It will be a real, sustainable smart-growth project," said Phil Young, a Missouri-based architect who is designing the stadium, with help from a Chelsea firm.

The ballpark would be located on an 8-acre site, comprised mainly of a National Grid gas operations center, which will relocate in the spring. Three other privately owned parcels on Canal Street also must be acquired to create enough space for the ballpark.

"We look forward to resuming negotiations with the Canal Street property owners," Bok said.

Bok and his group have been scouting sites in Greater Boston for years, but could never find a parcel available that was large enough to build a stadium from scratch. "There is no other site we found that met our criteria," he said.

The Malden site is ideal because it is located on the MBTA Orange line, has highway access, and 1,200 parking spots available in downtown garages, he said. "We really believe we have the best site in Greater Boston," Bok said.

The Malden Redevelopment Authority, working with National Grid, issued a request for proposals for development ideas for the site. Although a few developers inquired, Bok's group was the only one that submitted a final proposal. The 75-page document, along with last night's presentation, will be published on the city's website, cityofmalden.org, by Tuesday, Christenson said.

A committee reviewing the proposal will have to make a recommendation to the Malden Redevelopment Authority. That panel would then have to vote to designate Bok's group as developer of the site. If that happens, lease negotiations would start with National Grid, which plans to retain ownership of the land, officials said.

If Bok's group reaches agreement with National Grid, state and local permitting would begin later this year. Once permitted, construction could begin in winter 2013, and the park would open in 2014, according to the time line.

Stephen M. Wishoski, executive director of the Malden Redevelopment Authority, said the approval process would be long and detailed. At public hearings, Malden residents could weigh in on the project. "This is the beginning of a very long process that will involve, and ensure, participation by the public," he said.

Residents at Thursday's meeting expressed mixed views.

"What happens down the road, when the team is done?" asked Mike Aliberte. "Then what would we do with the stadium?"

Jim Vozzella said a ballpark would shine a bright light on Malden. "As far as I'm concerned, it would bring people into the city," Vozzella said. "You're not going to get 6,000 people just from Malden at the games. ... You're going to bring new people here. I think that's great."
 
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I'm starting to come around on this. I think thus far it looks pretty good. And I can safely say that the Spinners Stadium up in Lowell is an indisputable asset to that city.
 
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I'd really like to see this get done. Would be nice to see a ballgame without having to sell a vital organ.

I have to say, I'm pretty excited by the park renderings. If they build it, I'll definitely take my kids to some games there. And it will be easy to get there, too, as I'm already on the Orange Line, albeit at the other end.
 
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I went to a Spinners game once and it was loads of fun. Not outrageously expensive and laid back enough where you can actually enjoy the game and have a good afternoon. This will be a great asset to the city especially if there is year round activity (ice skating, concerts, etc).
 
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I'm really hoping they do have concerts here, too, it'll be great. I really hope they go full out on getting events all year round. I wish the surroundings could be improved alot more though. When something isn't going on here, it's just going to be some damn dead.
 
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Baseball stadiums can be great assets to neighborhoods if done right, if they're designed with every day in mind and not for just when an event is happening inside. Judging by the renderings, this one appears quite introverted and unconcerned with the Malden outside its perimeter of big tall blank walls. I think it will certainly be a big dead-zone in Malden Center on non-game/non-event days. I realize it will take the place of a parking lot, but, still, I think it should be much more thoughtful. There's a big empty canvass here and it should be done right. Malden Center needs more.

I just happened to have been in Malden Center last weekend and I had a chance to really thoroughly explore it. It's such a tragic place and it's all self-inflicted. It is basically a wasteland of parking lots and parking garages, inward looking buildings (including the bunker-like City Hall that totally cuts the center off from the T station) and commie block housing...surrounded by more parking. What's left of Pleasant Street in the center is very good, but it's a tiny isolated island in a vast sea of crap--it's also cutoff by the dead-end created by the abominable City Hall. The center as a whole is a pretty dismal place and even if I lived in Malden I dont think I would ever go there voluntarily.

So I think this stadium is just a product of panacea thinking, which goes something like: "Our town center is a necrotic hell-hole, so lets build a stadium/convention center/mega-mall/casino and we'll magically rejuvenate it."

This never pans out, nor does it address the real problem. IMO, what Malden Center really needs, with or without a minor league stadium, is to rebuild its bombed-out center. That means filling all those parking lots and parking garages with good fabric like that found on Pleasant Street. They have to transform Malden Center into a place where people actually want to go to and live in, not just a mondo parking lot of the MBTA station, which is what it has been relegated to. This should also include building a new city hall. I can't understand what the hell they were thinking when they built that nebulous fortress blocking off the center from the T. Malden Center has so much potential. All it needs is a little vision and a lot of leadership.
 
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Baseball stadiums can be great assets to neighborhoods if done right, if they're designed with every day in mind and not for just when an event is happening inside. Judging by the renderings, this one appears quite introverted and unconcerned with the Malden outside its perimeter of big tall blank walls. I think it will certainly be a big dead-zone in Malden Center on non-game/non-event days. I realize it will take the place of a parking lot, but, still, I think it should be much more thoughtful. There's a big empty canvass here and it should be done right. Malden Center needs more.

I just happened to have been in Malden Center last weekend and I had a chance to really thoroughly explore it. It's such a tragic place and it's all self-inflicted. It is basically a wasteland of parking lots and parking garages, inward looking buildings (including the bunker-like City Hall that totally cuts the center off from the T station) and commie block housing...surrounded by more parking. What's left of Pleasant Street in the center is very good, but it's a tiny isolated island in a vast sea of crap--it's also cutoff by the dead-end created by the abominable City Hall. The center as a whole is a pretty dismal place and even if I lived in Malden I dont think I would ever go there voluntarily.

So I think this stadium is just a product of panacea thinking, which goes something like: "Our town center is a necrotic hell-hole, so lets build a stadium/convention center/mega-mall/casino and we'll magically rejuvenate it."

This never pans out, nor does it address the real problem. IMO, what Malden Center really needs, with or without a minor league stadium, is to rebuild its bombed-out center. That means filling all those parking lots and parking garages with good fabric like that found on Pleasant Street. They have to transform Malden Center into a place where people actually want to go to and live in, not just a mondo parking lot of the MBTA station, which is what it has been relegated to. This should also include building a new city hall. I can't understand what the hell they were thinking when they built that nebulous fortress blocking off the center from the T. Malden Center has so much potential. All it needs is a little vision and a lot of leadership.

Excellent post, spot on. I think the biggest killer of all is in fact city hall itself. As to what they were thinking? I've heard they were actually thinking of elevating the City Hall so that you could walk right underneath through a plaza. They cut that because they didn't have enough funds to do so. Or so, that's the story I've heard. I'd go as far as to say the single best improvement that could be made to downtown Malden is to simply destroy city hall and build a welcoming entry point to Pleasant St. There's many other improvements to be made, but I think this is the best one.
 
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On the city's public access tv website is a 3-D detailed description of proposed ballpark by the designers. Video of ballpark starts at around 48 minute mark.

http://www.matv.org/viewing_room
 
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"Big, stand-alone commercial developments can’t save struggling neighborhoods. Failed downtown malls in Boston, Worcester, and Springfield show that dynamic all too well."

Which Boston mall are they talking about? I thought Prudential Center and Copley Place were both runaway successes... Perhaps before renovations?

"From Assembly Square in Somerville to expansive redevelopment projects in Worcester, Quincy, and Lowell, residents are starting to see the rewards in demanding a substantial, neighborhood-building approach to urban revitalization. Malden shouldn’t squander its best shot at following suit."

The problem with this argument is that any monolithic development won't really spur the type of neighborhood development that this editorial is advocating - it will be just as isolated as the stadium. I'm not sure what will happen with the Worcester and Quincy developments - Quincy does seem to be taking the long view - but I really haven't seen a "new neighborhood" TOD proposal that actually attempts to rejuvenate its surroundings. Rather, they isolate themselves and look inward toward the transit line. Projects which project benefits outward seem to often be a single civic structure or private building which changes perceptions of the area and encourages further investment... like a ballpark.

It's interesting that the editorial praises Jane Jacobs for advocating patience, then declares that Malden needs to reinvent itself all at once with a multi-use TOD on this single site. If they really believed in that patience, they would suggest that Malden split up the site and sell smaller lots to different developers over the next 20 years with some guidance as far as uses, while simultaneously improving the downtown streetscape and removing City Hall. Otherwise, it's landscraper city for this site.

The economic arguments against independent baseball are hard to debunk, though, especially as Malden is close to Lynn. Lowell works because of the Sox connection, IMO.
 
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I feel like a "TOD" here would just become something like Station Landing, a garish New Urbanist "Main Street" disconnected from an actual neighborhood and surrounded by parking and high speed arterials.

I don't think Malden Center could ever be a Davis Sq as the editorial suggests, but I do think, with proper planning, it could be an Arlington Center with T access. But in any case a lot more needs to be done than just what this parcel itself can offer.
 
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"Big, stand-alone commercial developments can’t save struggling neighborhoods. Failed downtown malls in Boston, Worcester, and Springfield show that dynamic all too well."

Which Boston mall are they talking about?

Lafayette Place was an unmitigated failure, both in concept, and design.
 
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@Beton Brut - Agreed Lafayette Place always had that feeling of I am going to be killed just around this curving, poorly lit hallway. The food court worked at first, I will give it that. It just felt like one of those hauted house rides with real danger as opposed to summer fair thrills.

I would love to know how much National Grid is going to pay to clean up this site. It was a gas tank for many years and they have purchased some parcels in the area as a defense against law suits from the icky stuff in the ground.

Any of those wondering why this ballpark would work here instead of Brockton or Lynn? The T is right there and it isn't Brockton or Lynn. There is plenty of parking for those of us not wanting to take the T from our banal (said in jest) suburbs. The Manning Bowl is a PIA to get too and Brockton is, well Brockton. The Rox were 45 minutes from my house, but I would rather take the hour to go to Malden and take the kids to a game there.
 
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I feel like a "TOD" here would just become something like Station Landing, a garish New Urbanist "Main Street" disconnected from an actual neighborhood and surrounded by parking and high speed arterials.

I don't think Malden Center could ever be a Davis Sq as the editorial suggests, but I do think, with proper planning, it could be an Arlington Center with T access. But in any case a lot more needs to be done than just what this parcel itself can offer.

The "New Urbanist" stuff was good. It's not their fault that it's an infill between a railyard and two 3-4 lane highways. Stand in the middle and it is pretty nice, the only problem is it is only about 4 square blocks. What could they have done better without somehow getting rid of the railyard or the highways?

A TOD of that level in Malden Center with the Baseball Park would work better a bit better. Okay, it is still flanked by a 2 lane highway with an office building on the other side of it, another side is a back of a Stop and Shop, and two other sides are only marginally better, but person walking down would feel some connection built right. And unlike Station Landing, it could one day be fully connected. As Rt 60 can be made to feel more like Huntington Ave or at least Commonwealth Ave than the highways of Rt 16 and 28. Also the the 3 biggest buildings that disconnects are the Danvers Bank, the office building, and the backside of Stop and Shop. Much more redeemable than trying to deal with the railyard and a river.

(Note: I'm not considering the auto-repair shops as it does sound like they intend to buy them out along with the parking lot).

A TOD of the Station Landing style have much more potential in that giant block with the ballpark. There's actually hope that the surrounding areas of the neighborhood of Edgewood (though slightly cut off via the Orange line), Pleasant St. of Malden Sq via Exchange St block can be knit together.


Of course, all of this depends that they have the foresight to build an extroverted ballpark of Fenway era with TOD in mind. Even if only that block is redeveloped, the potential of Malden Sq would rise.

The three things that is in the works redevelopment of Super Fitness block, building the ballpark, and moving City Hall if all three are done right, would be huge steps in the right direction. If they can merely "Comm Ave." Rt. 60 and redevelopment the office building, the entire area might just get knitted enough to critical mass.
 
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Malden board gives go-ahead to 'Play Ball' on Commercial Street site

By Kathy McCabe, Globe Staff
The Malden Redevelopment Authority last night chose Boston Baseball Field of Dreams to redevelop an 8-acre parcel on Commercial Street across from the MBTA Orange Line station.

The group, led by Boston lawyer Alex Bok, proposes to build a $50 million minor league baseball stadium called Malden Park on land currently occuped by a National Grid gas operations facility and three smaller businesses.

The four parcels take up an entire city block in the heart of downtown. It is one of the last major parcels available for redevelopment in the city, and plans for its reuse have been much anticipated.

The authority's board last night gave the nod to Bok, unanimously voting, 5-0, to name his group the so-called "preliminary developer," giving it the green light to negotiate with property owners.

"We have been at this for 3 1/2 years," said Alex Bok, a Boston lawyer who heads the baseball group. "We are excited to be able to start to work with National Grid and the other property owners."

Bok's group will have until July 17 to reach agreement with National Grid and the other property owners to secure the land. But the deadline also can be extended by a vote of the board, according to copy of the resolution passed last night.

If negotiations are successful, the proposal would then have to go through state and local permitting process. "We still have a long way to go, "said Stephen M. Wishoski, executive director of the Malden Redevelopment Authority. "There will be ample opportunity for the public to comment."

The authority's board chose to designate Bok's group with little discussion. "As a lifelong Malden resident, I'm really proud you chose us," said Diego Barricelli, a board member, addressing the Bok group. "It will bring some life to us in tough times."

Mayor Gary Christenson spoke in favor of the park. "I believe this is the type of project we need to move Malden forward," Christenson told the board. "It's being done with no financial assistance from the city."

Bok had been scouting sites to build a minor league baseball facility for some time. After two sites fell through in Boston, he turned to Malden, a city accessible by major highways and the Orange Line MBTA. "This is no second choice site," Bok said. "This is the perfect site."

National Grid also had been considering moving operations away from Commercial Street to another facility it owns in the city. The utility last year teamed up with the authority to identify a reuse plan for the parcel. In October, the city issued a request for proposals to redevelop the site. Bok's group was the only respondent.

The proposed Malden Park would have 6,372 seats, 16 sky boxes, a pro shop, restaurants, and a 30,000 square foot plaza opening onto Commercial Street. It would host a team from the Atlantic League of Professional Baseball, but he has not yet secured a franchise, Bok said.

The park would host 70 games per season, which would be played on nights and weekends. But the facility, with restaurants and meeting space, also could be used at other times of the year for community events.

"We're looking forward to Opening Day, two years from this April," Bok said.

Kathy McCabe can be reached at kmccabe@globe.com. Follow her on Twitter @GlobeKMcCabe.

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/malden/2012/02/malden_board_chooses_minor_lea.html
 
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Awesome. I hope this works out.
 

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