Mandarin Oriental | 776 Boylston St | Back Bay

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I like it too. It's basically identical to the renderings, and I feel that this building will age well.
 
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In person, it was neither horrifying nor disappointing. It fades into the background of the cityscape.
For most buildings this is an honorable mission.
 
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Wow, that's even more soulless than the 60's apartment buildings across from it.
 
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i disagree... its not great, but its not horrible either... and when your walking down the street now, it seems like your walking down an actual city street. It's funny because when you live and work downtown, you don't actually tend to look up at the buildings surrounding you... Your too busy with bumping into someone or getting hit by a car. People that disagree with this building, might disagree, and be right, but their not walking down those streets its a view from a far, which could be true as well. I, personally welcome the Mandarin Hotel... i guess the question is... who is viewing this from a far and critizing and who is up close on a regular basis and voicing their oppinion
 
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Seeing as the principal complainant above lives in New York and seemingly cares not to return to Boston, what should his opinion matter.

By the way, this is totally off topic, but lets at least have a moderator who lives in the city being discussed.
 
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Indeed, why should anyone from anywhere else but Boston have any type of opinion of architecture. I'll keep to myself if you promise never to visit another city and comment on their architecture.

Having an opinion of a building and living in the same city as the building are not mutually exclusive.
 
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Van, have you been up to see it? I think it has the texture of RAM Stern's 15 CPW, more or less...the only real difference being the slightly less imaginative roofline. The rounded corner windows make up for this somewhat...it has a certain late deco cruise liner quality.
 
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The latest view above is, after all, the back of the building, where builders will want to make up for square footage lost on the front and sides with set backs, balconies, etc.. There is supposed to be a new garden established on this back side, I guess to help bring together the older and newer developments. All in all, I'm much more pleased with this hotel/condo than I am with nearly everything else in similar categories that has recently been opened. It gives Boylston St. added rhythm and is, after all, the FIRST building ever built on that particular footprint in the history of Boston.
 
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^^^ I agree its the back side -- which will be further walled from public view by the proposed Exeter St. condo tower (of whatever height gets approved) -- and one shouldn't get too perturbed over the a$$ end of a building thats pretty much out of sight..
 
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Google has newer satellite images of brookline and allston, showing the new kenmore construction, the BU tower, the finished trilogy and the new boylston building.

However, downtown is still ancient, so heres a screen grab I just did showing the location of the mandarin oriental. What the parcel looked like before (I honestly didnt remember anymore)

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Perhaps soon google will have a more recent (2007) image.
 
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Honorable missions and modest buildings can be good. Many fine urban spaces are populated with modest buildings. However, the renderings for the Mandarin set expectations that the building does not yet appear to meet.
 
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Where are the duck boats gonna park now? :( :p
 
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In front of Shaws on Huntington.
 
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This building has certainly breathed new life into this stretch of Boylston.
 
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I read an article many years ago that quoted local architect Willim Rawn. He said sidewalks have two sides. When people came down the escalators at the Pru they almost all crossed the street to the other side of Boylston Ave. Very few people walked the side where the Mandarin is now. I think when the building is finnished and the store fronts occupied both side of the street will be busy.
 
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They've begun to reveal the street level of this building. It appears to be completely clad in different types of limestone and black granite or marble.
 
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What the parcel looked like before (I honestly didnt remember anymore)

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Modernist space is always pedestrian-hostile. People should be in cars going up and down ramps (Greenways is well supplied with these. ;))

Honorable missions and modest buildings can be good. Many fine urban spaces are populated with modest buildings. However, the renderings for the Mandarin set expectations that the building does not yet appear to meet.
The honorable mission is this:

I read an article many years ago that quoted local architect Willim Rawn. He said sidewalks have two sides. When people came down the escalators at the Pru they almost all crossed the street to the other side of Boylston Ave. Very few people walked the side where the Mandarin is now. I think when the building is finnished and the store fronts occupied both side of the street will be busy.
 
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In my humble opinion anything that hides the lower parts of the Pru should be encouraged at nearly all cost.

Just as in Warsaw where they've been trying to surround the Pałac Kultury i Nauki {aka Stalin's Gift or less PC Stalin's Penis} with almost as tall towers -- the Pru should be surrounded with 111 Huntington's or equivalent

Westy
 
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My thoughts: I think the limestone (if that's what it really is) works really well but that yellowish-brown brick looks cheap and tacky. I think it looks even worse on a gray day like the one in the pictures. I never thought I'd say it but Boston needs more red brick. A dark red brick with some patterns and details would bump this from a C+ to a B+. It works well filling in the street wall but I just see this as a missed opportunity to create something like the Hotel Chelsea in the Back Bay.
 

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