MBTA Commuter Rail (Operations, Keolis, & Short Term)

Unfortunately it's a toss-up which publicly available datasheets contain this info or not. Stadler's RS Zero which is basically a modern battery train equivalent of a Budd RDC lists a max starting accel. of 0.95 m/s^2 but it's unsure if the more powerful motors of the heavier FLIRT Akku maintain the same acceleration.
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The Siemens Mireo Plus B lists "starting accel up to 1.1 m/s^2" with 380kW more power than the Akku which is a bit more ambiguous but it seems like the industry, albeit limited, standard for BEMUs is 0.9-1.1
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Thanks for that!
And to just really clearly draw the conclusion out there: it looks like there are modern, commuter rail BEMUs that can accelerate roughly as good as straight-EMUs. The BEMUs have many other drawbacks, but acceleration probably isn't one of them.
 
Thanks for that!
And to just really clearly draw the conclusion out there: it looks like there are modern, commuter rail BEMUs that can accelerate roughly as good as straight-EMUs. The BEMUs have many other drawbacks, but acceleration probably isn't one of them.
1 m/s^2 is pretty standard for straight-EMUs. So it sounds like BEMUs are achieving that level of acceleration.
 
It sounds like a great idea if you don't know the details, and if the idea is told like how they tell it. It's a lie by omission. The story is that they want electrification with lower upfront costs. The reality is that the cost of leasing BEMUs and installing charging infrastructure is so high that any cost savings will have completely disappeared, even reversed, by the time you get around to full electrification.

Also for a line like Fairmount the upfront costs aren't actually that high in the first place, so the absolute best you could hope for in terms of cost savings would probably be in the low double digit millions, hardly something to write home about, and definitely not something to risk the project over.
Part of the T's logic for BEMUs is the assumption that costs will go down and performance will increase as battery technology improves. They didn't state this in the podcast but it shows up in other Rail Vision-related materials they've produced. This seems to be a reasonable assumption, but it still requires the T to be clear on what BEMU price they believe is a break-even point in terms of costs compared to full catenary. Current BEMU prices are certainly not where they need to be for them to be more cost effective, and I'm highly skeptical that will be the case in 5-10 years either.
 
Part of the T's logic for BEMUs is the assumption that costs will go down and performance will increase as battery technology improves. They didn't state this in the podcast but it shows up in other Rail Vision-related materials they've produced. This seems to be a reasonable assumption, but it still requires the T to be clear on what BEMU price they believe is a break-even point in terms of costs compared to full catenary. Current BEMU prices are certainly not where they need to be for them to be more cost effective, and I'm highly skeptical that will be the case in 5-10 years either.
Any overtime cost decrease is entirely negated by the fact that the goal for the Fairmount Line is 2027.

But in terms of will the costs go down enough to make them competitive? Not without new battery technology, and pretty advanced new battery technology at that. That's still extremely far away, and planning for anything that far down the line in terms of electrification would be... reckless, to say the least.
 
Any overtime cost decrease is entirely negated by the fact that the goal for the Fairmount Line is 2027.

But in terms of will the costs go down enough to make them competitive? Not without new battery technology, and pretty advanced new battery technology at that. That's still extremely far away, and planning for anything that far down the line in terms of electrification would be... reckless, to say the least.
I certainly agree. However, we should be clear that the choice of BEMUs for the Fairmount Line has nothing to do with what is best for the Fairmount Line and everything to do with testing BEMUs before committing to them system-wide. While I certainly don't like it, this doesn't seem like a case of the T deciding that discontinuous electrification is the ideal mode for a 9-mile urban rail corridor.
 
I certainly agree. However, we should be clear that the choice of BEMUs for the Fairmount Line has nothing to do with what is best for the Fairmount Line and everything to do with testing BEMUs before committing to them system-wide. While I certainly don't like it, this doesn't seem like a case of the T deciding that discontinuous electrification is the ideal mode for a 9-mile urban rail corridor.
They have plenty of specific excuses for preferring discontinuous electrification on the Fairmount Line. It's one of the most clearance-restricted corridors on the system, meaning that some of the bridges will have to be undercut to maintain existing Plate C (i.e. the size of a T bi-level) clearances under 25 kV overhead. It's not expensive by any means. It was done liberally at not-expensive cost by Amtrak for bringing 25 kV wires onto the also-Plate C Southwest Corridor 25 years ago. It was done voluntarily by the T on the entire Lowell Line 45 years ago so they could claim B&M's Fitchburg Cutoff freight clearance route for the Red Line extension. But they're afraid of literally touching anything to string up OCS, so "Eww...clearance mods" gets plied as an excuse as well when they tout their magic-beans solution of going discontinuous. They've been very clear with the public that they think BEMU's are the ideal, that continuous electrification will take eons if it's ever completed, and that they're voraciously buying the lies that BEMU's and discontinuous are supposed to be a cost-saver. Even in that podcast it was obvious that Muller was emphasizing the battery in battery-electric.
 
Fixed infrastructure gives T management hives because of the lack of flexibility. For example: Trolley bus OCS means that routes can’t be picked up and moved at a moment’s notice.
 

Town of Winchester refuses to give up 8 parking spots for the MBTA to run weekend shuttles during station work...

Prior noted how the MBTA doesn’t keep rider counts, so the board had no way of knowing how many people would be impacted if they chose not to grant the transit authority’s request.

Town Manager Beth Rudolph said the board had two options: approve the MBTA’s request or the bus would skip the Winchester Center Commuter Rail Station and only stop at Wedgemere. This is for November and December, as the MBTA finishes up work at the center station (with a potential full reopening scheduled for the end of the year).

Prior, in voting against the request, said local businesses are already dealing with a lack of parking. Not to mention, as pointed out by Select Board member Michael Bettencourt, the bus would only make infrequent stops thereby effectively taking those spaces out of commission even when not in use by the MBTA.
I'm willing to believe there are more than 8 riders a day on the commuter rail but what do I know
 
In June, the Franklin Line Quiet Zone study was released. The study examined a potential quiet zone in Franklin, encompassing all 6 crossings in town.
The proposed quiet zone would include the grade crossings of the MBTA Commuter Rail Franklin line with the following public roadways (with DOT Crossing Inventory Number):
  • Forge Parkway (921771W)
  • Grove Street (536865M)
  • Beaver Street (536863Y)
  • Public Works Way (536862S)
  • Fisher Street (536861K)
  • Union Street (536859J)
5 of the 6 crossings (Grove Street, Beaver Street, Public Works Way, Fisher Street, and Union Street) will be upgraded to four-quadrant crossings if the quiet zone is implemented. Forge Parkway does not need four-quadrant gates for the quiet zone, as it has a center-running median (which might need to be modified).

The improvements are estimated to cost $1.3 million per crossing (excluding Forge Parkway, which would be $500k) for a total of $7.7 million, according to the MBTA Engineering Division. The town of Franklin would provide funding for design and construction.
In order to provide the Town with an order of magnitude opinion of probable construction cost, we reached out to MBTA Engineering Division who provided an estimate of approximately $1.3 Million (2024 dollars) as an approximate average cost for design and construction to upgrade from a two-quad gate system to a four-quad gate system, install crossing envelope detection and upgrade the railroad signals. The MBTA noted that in some situations there could be some site-specific safety measures that may increase that cost. A 10% contingency has been carried below for that reason. The Town would be responsible for all costs associated with design and construction of any improvements required to implement the QZ.
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1 m/s^2 is pretty standard for straight-EMUs. So it sounds like BEMUs are achieving that level of acceleration.
So now the question is, how close can you get to that with just DMUs? Apparently the bi-mode class 755s FLIRTs in the UK can do 0.9m/s^2. The Stadler Winks also seem seem promising (If a bit short) but I can't find hard numbers on those. If you can get 90% of the way there at a fraction of the cost by using diesel generators to extend the range, that seems like a way better option.
 
So now the question is, how close can you get to that with just DMUs? Apparently the bi-mode class 755s FLIRTs in the UK can do 0.9m/s^2. The Stadler Winks also seem seem promising (If a bit short) but I can't find hard numbers on those. If you can get 90% of the way there at a fraction of the cost by using diesel generators to extend the range, that seems like a way better option.
The only FRA-compliant high-level boarding DMU on the market is the Nippon Sharyo DMU, which only does 0.78 m/s². The FLIRTs are FRA-compliant, but don't conform to our platform heights and the WINKs also don't yet conform to our platform heights and haven't achieved FRA compliance. When the T did its DMU RFP about 10 years ago it got very few bids, with the Nippon Sharyo one being the only clear fit (and they still needed mods for door traps). Nippon Sharyo has since exited the U.S. market, so they wouldn't qualify for Buy America if we did look for them.

The main problem with more powerful traction motors on DMU's to compensate for the fuel bulk is that the fuel efficiency and emissions take a hit for making the engines work harder on acceleration starts. DMU's are already kind of piggish on fuel efficiency because of the small, fast-spinning (usually dual) diesel engines compared to the big slow-spinning single prime mover on a locomotive. So the operating costs are not ideal compared to anything electric or battery-electric, and sort of lean on being as miserly as possible with the tractive effort. Hence, the unimpressive acceleration stats of most makes.
 
So now the question is, how close can you get to that with just DMUs? Apparently the bi-mode class 755s FLIRTs in the UK can do 0.9m/s^2. The Stadler Winks also seem seem promising (If a bit short) but I can't find hard numbers on those. If you can get 90% of the way there at a fraction of the cost by using diesel generators to extend the range, that seems like a way better option.
One likely other knock on DEMUs (in addition to @F-Line to Dudley 's points) is worse Mean Distance Between Failures. Diesel engines just have lots of moving parts and are more prone to breaking down. The Transit Matters report on electrification has those numbers for MBTA's current diesel fleet (5k to 25k miles) compared to EMUs (150k to 400k miles). The difference is massive. DEMUs should be about the same as regular diesels. BEMUs should be a lot better, but I can't find how they compare to straight-EMUs.

I do totally agree though, that it's sometimes worth reevaluating these other technologies. They're getting better. If they end up 90% as good on a lot of metrics but for a fraction of the cost, that could be totally be worth it. But I haven't seen a good argument that's true yet for DEMUs or BEMUs.
 
BEMUs should be a lot better, but I can't find how they compare to straight-EMUs.
BEMUs do have the additional factor of battery replacement. It doesn't seem like it's that bad, around $150k in batteries every 7 years isn't a massive deal, but it's not nothing, and depending on how complicated the swap is, labor costs could get pretty high.
DEMUs should be about the same as regular diesels.
That seems possible, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say that might not be the case either. Smaller generators that are somewhat redundant could increase the MDBF. Unfortunately I can't actually find any solid numbers on this so for know it's just speculation.
 
That seems possible, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say that might not be the case either. Smaller generators that are somewhat redundant could increase the MDBF. Unfortunately I can't actually find any solid numbers on this so for know it's just speculation.
Running with one crapped-out diesel engine is going to maim the tractive effort due to halving the available electricity. It's designed so a mechanical failure can let the train complete its trip (meaning less inconvenience to customers), but comes at cost of a major speed penalty. So you wouldn't be running 'crippled' one-engine DMU's instead of letting them wait in line for shop attention because their schedule adherence would've been abysmal. Dual engines are mainly for reduced fuel use, noise, and emissions when coasting or at station stops, as one of the engines will idle at low load. The redundancy is mainly a side perk, but isn't a practical way of running sets into the ground maintenance-wise.

The T has two dual-engine diesel genset work locomotives on the roster. Gensets are basically small, fast-spinning DMU-like diesel power plants in place of the regular prime mover...good for yard shunting because they keep the emissions low in a fixed space. The Bombardier ALP-45DP dual-mode loco on NJ Transit also uses dual gensets to power its diesel half (with the gensets being a space-saver for the electric-half guts), and GO Transit's MPI MP54AC use them to achieve Tier 4 emissions standard retrofits in otherwise unmodifiable MPXpress packaging. Worrisomely, the T shop has a very hard time maintaining its gensets. The engines are much more complicated than standard prime movers, so their two NRE 3GS21B work locos are constantly out-of-service with engine crap-outs. Right now they're sitting in long-term dead storage in Rochester because the T has pretty much given up on even trying to maintain them at all, and is just using its passenger roster to do switching. That's not a good omen for potential DMU maintenance practices here because the engines are technologically almost identical to (but even smaller than) the gensets they refuse to maintain.

There's also the matter of DMU configuration. While all locos on the planet--diesel or electric--use electrical power source (be it the diesel power plant or overhead) transformed to spin the traction motors, and all EMU's are likewise traction-motor based...not all DMU's are diesel-electric. The Stadlers by and large are traditional diesel-electric, but the Nippon Sharyo DMU's the T almost ordered are diesel-mechanical. Meaning the diesel engine (there's only one on the Nippon cars) direct-drive the axles instead of providing electricity to industry-standard traction motors. They're powered like a diesel bus, only at train heft and power. It was the only way Nippon Sharyo could make them Tier 4 emissions-compliant. That particular make would probably be pretty hard for the T to maintain because it's so fundamentally different to how all other traction-motor rolling stock on the planet works. So you also have to read between the lines when shopping for DMU's to find out what kind of drive type they have and whether that suits your in-house maintenance expertise.
 

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