More Fenway Park Renovations

They were originally going to replace the screen last winter, but decided to put if off. I wonder if the Liverpool purchase will have any effect on Fenway.
 
Fans like the manual scoreboard on the Wall. It's part of the atmosphere. Why fix what isn't broken?

The fancy modern stuff can go on the screen behind the bleachers.
 
^^That's the scoreboard in discussion. The Green Monster scoreboard is sacrosanct.
 
Yea, folks. When I ressurected this thread, I didn't clarify what scoreboard that I meant. I meant the video scoreboard. Not the one off the Green Monster. No way would they touch that.
 
There has been talk before about changing the green monster scoreboard, but too many people like it since its so original now. It wouldn't be Fenway without it.
 
THIS bein the WRONG thing. BUT. You can LED great green wall liking the Emerson LED windos with MANY colourings at nite at this ARCADIA BUILDING. AND. it MUCH MOVING and colourful two. NOT seeeing the little lite unless ON. SO. This NOT being the problems you four see.
 
Ah, bostonbred you make me laugh. To clarify the back and forth:

The jumbotron has been slated for replacement. I think it's still in the hands of Landmark's. So I'm sure they'll find a way to screw it up. ("Must be dimmed after 10:00 PM Monday through Thursday evenings," or something.)

The purchase of Liverpool is by the parent company, not the Red Sox. No cash implications, unlike JD Drew's overinflated fucking salary.

Yes, Ron. The Monster scoreboard is only partially changed from the inside. I can't remember where the split is, but they do go out between innings to update it.
 
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Ah, bostonbred you make me laugh. To clarify the back and forth:

The jumbotron has been slated for replacement. I think it's still in the hands of Landmark's. So I'm sure they'll find a way to screw it up. ("Must be dimmed after 10:00 PM Monday through Thursday evenings," or something.)

The purchase of Liverpool is by the parent company, not the Red Sox. No cash implications, unlike JD Drew's overinflated fucking salary.

Yes, Ron. The Monster scoreboard is only partially changed from the inside. I can't remember where the split is, but they do go out between innings to update it.
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Don't they (the Sox FO) announce the planned renovations around this time of year?


Or are they still celebrating the acquisition of a shitty English Football team?
 
Here's the official press release:

Red Sox announce Year X Fenway Park Improvements

Off-Season Improvements mark completion of ten-year cycle of major, annual improvement projects; 2011 Improvements to include three new High Definition video boards and scoring systems by ANC Sports and Mitsubishi Electric


BOSTON, MA -- The Boston Red Sox today announced Year X Fenway Park Improvements to "America's Most Beloved Ballpark." Three new state-of-the-art High Definition video display and scoring systems, upgrades to the Gate D concourse including new and extended concession areas, and the repair, waterproofing and seat replacements of the lower seating bowl in Right Field highlight the 2011 list.

This off-season will mark the final year of major annual improvements to the ballpark, thus completing a ten-year plan. This year's effort fulfills a pledge made by ownership upon acquisition of the club, and reaffirmed in 2005, to improve every facet of the ballpark, while preserving and protecting the ballpark for future generations. The improvements completed at Fenway Park over the past ten years have been designed to ensure that the park will remain structurally sound, and the home of the Boston Red Sox, for the next 30-40 years.

With a 2010-2011 off-season investment estimated at $40 million, the investment for the 10 year program is estimated to total approximately $285 million, the largest investment in the history of the almost 99-year old iconic ballpark.

"This is the last year of a ten-year series of improvements to Fenway Park that has given this venerable old ballpark new life," said Red Sox President/CEO Larry Lucchino. "With more seats and more standing room, wide open concourses, a reinforced structure, new and improved restroom facilities, and many more food and beverage options for our fans, Fenway Park remains vibrant and appealing leading up to its 100th Anniversary in 2012."

New High Definition Video Display and Scoring Systems

Three new High Definition video display and scoring systems will be installed this off-season at Fenway Park and will represent a significant upgrade over the existing scoreboards. The Red Sox selected ANC Sports to install three new state-of-the-art Mitsubishi Electric Diamond VisionTM light emitting diode (LED) video screens.

The largest of the three screens, measuring approximately 38 feet high by 100 feet wide, will be the main video board in centerfield and replace the existing elements of the structure above the bleachers in centerfield, which was originally constructed prior to the 1976 season. This main scoreboard structure includes a 23 feet high by 30 feet wide video screen installed after the 1999 season, the black and white statistical display, 60 feet of LED ribbon and the static rotational sponsor signs. This screen will have the ability to provide approximately 3800 square feet of dynamic video capabilities in a variety of formats.

Driven by ANC's patent-pending VisionSOFTTM operating system, the new main video screen above the centerfield bleachers will be able to mimic the look of the old rotational sponsor signs or dissolve into various formats such as full-screen live video, game action accompanied by real-time statistics, sponsor graphics partnered with the box scores or any combination of visuals and game information.

Two additional Diamond Vision displays will also be installed on either side of the main screen. The existing Bank of America hitters and pitchers board in left center field will turn into a 17 feet high by 100 feet wide video screen with a new illuminated Bank of America sign atop the board. A third video screen, 16 feet high by 30 feet wide, will connect the Ford and Dunkin Donuts sponsor signs above the bleachers in right field. These Diamond Vision video systems will prominently feature real-time information such as batter and pitcher stats, pitch speed and type, box scores, promotions, announcements, upcoming schedules and other messaging.

"We are excited to partner with the Red Sox to enhance the fan experience at Fenway Park through our state-of-the-art signage technology," said Jerry Cifarelli, President and Chief Executive Officer of ANC Sports Enterprises. "ANC's revolutionary software system combined with Mitsubishi Electric's Diamond Vision LED displays will entertain Red Sox fans with visuals as clear as their High Definition televisions at home while providing comprehensive and informative game information."

All three signage positions will feature the Diamond Vision X8 Outdoor Video Screen. This state-of-the-art display features vibrant images through Mitsubishi Electric's dynamic pixel processing which creates 8mm lines of resolution.

Other sports facilities where ANC Sports has installed Mitsubishi Electric High Definition video display systems include AT&T Park in San Francisco, CA; Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, TX; Nationals Park in Washington, D.C.; Oriole Park at Camden Yards in Baltimore, MD; Turner Field in Atlanta, GA; U.S. Cellular Field in Chicago, IL and Yankee Stadium in New York, NY.

Other Improvements Planned for 2011

Additional work being planned for this off-season includes the concrete repair, waterproofing, and seat replacements of the Right Field lower seating bowl originally constructed in 1933-34. This will mark the completion of the repair and waterproofing of the entire lower seating bowl, a project started with the Bleachers in 2007 and continued with the original 1912 bowl in 2008 and the 1933-34 Left Field seating bowl in 2009.

Existing Dugout, Field Box and Loge Box seats will be replaced by new seats with cup holders on a new concrete base. Dugout and Field Box seats will also be padded. As in previous years, Grandstand seats in Right Field will be refurbished and fitted with self-rising mechanisms that enable the seat to retract automatically once a patron stands up. This will allow for more room in the seating rows and improved mobility for fans entering or exiting the rows.

Other projects underway include new and expanded concession and merchandise stands in the Gate D area and a repaired and upgraded ground level concourse stretching from Gate D to Gate C that will include utility upgrades, new concrete concourse flooring and life safety improvements.

All off-season improvements were designed by D'Agostino Izzo & Quirk of Somerville, MA, and overseen by Ipswich Associates of Boston, MA, who will serve as the Program Manager. The concrete repair work will be completed by NER Construction of Wilmington, MA. The General Contractor for the off-season projects will be Walsh Brothers of Boston, MA.

Fenway Park Improvements 2002-2011:

Fenway Park has undergone a series of annual improvements since the New England Sports Ventures (NESV) purchased the team in 2002. The group assembled by John Henry, Tom Werner and Larry Lucchino was the only candidate vying for ownership of the ballclub that proposed to save and improve Fenway Park, America's oldest and smallest ballpark. The team has since focused on a series of improvements, with goals of increasing capacity by at least 10%; improving fan amenities such as concessions, restrooms and entry points; ADA accessibility and circulation including elevators and stairs; and, also improving the ballpark exterior with new year-round restaurants, wider sidewalks, street trees and lighting.

Most notable among these improvements are:

2002: New Dugout Seats; Yawkey Way Concourse.
2003: Green Monster Seats; Big Concourse; Expanded Dugout Seats; New Green Monster Manual Scoreboard.
2004: Right Field Roof Deck; Third Base Concourse.
2005: First Base Deck; 'Game On' Restaurant; New Playing Field
2006: EMC Club; State Street Pavilion Level; Renovated Private Suites; Distributed Sound System
2007: Steiner Third Base Deck; Renovated Private Suites
2008: Expansion of Seating on State Street Pavilion Level, Coca-Cola Corner; Concrete Repair and Waterproofing of Bleachers and new seats; 'The Bleacher Bar'.
2009: Right Field Roof Box Expansion; Concrete Repair and Waterproofing of the original 1912 Seating Bowl and new seats; Repairs to the Jeano Building, including the replacement of its roof and restoration of the windows and doors; New Front Row Seats.
2010: Concrete Repair and Waterproofing of the 1933-34 left Field Lower Seating Bowl; New Home Plate Deck, Concession Stands and Restrooms.
 
The Sox press release didnt include(assume because its not approved yed) the widening of the bullpens which would make distance to right field about 8 feet shorter.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseba...es/2010/10/new_fenway_bull.html?p1=News_links

1. I am probably missing something but why the hell wouldn't they reposition the seats near the right field foul pole while they are removed so they actually face home plate??!!
2. To bad they couldn't sink the bullpens slightly which could possibly allow a few more rows in bleachers.
 
The realistic thing to go would be to eliminate some seats in the bleachers and then add another 200 seats somewhere else in the area...they're running out of places to add seats...
 
Not a physical improvement to the park, but an improvement none the less - too bad the mayor doesn't see it that way.

City questions Sox plan for mixed drinks
By Michael Rezendes
Globe Staff / March 31, 2011

As the Boston Red Sox prepare for their April 8 home opener at Fenway Park, the team is moving to expand the sale of mixed alcoholic beverages throughout the historic ballpark, drawing concerns from Boston police and Mayor Thomas M. Menino.

Representatives of the Red Sox told the Boston Licensing Board last week that the team wants the right to sell mixed drinks, in addition to beer, ?at a limited number of stations?? throughout the 37,000-seat stadium and on Yawkey Way. Currently, hard liquor is available mainly at refreshment stands serving fans with upper-level premium seats.

The proposal appeared to surprise Boston police and a representative of the mayor, prompting the three-member board to postpone a vote until after a second hearing, scheduled for next Wednesday.

?The police wanted an opportunity to be heard on the issue; and, also, some community members wanted a chance to speak,?? board chairwoman Nicole Murati Ferrer said yesterday. In addition, Ferrer said, board members want to see a detailed plan from the Red Sox that describes how the team will monitor the serving of mixed alcoholic beverages.

Mayor Thomas M. Menino, underscoring longstanding concern about drinking and rowdy Red Sox fans, said yesterday that he believes the team should continue to restrict the consumption of mixed drinks.

?The mayor would not be inclined to support the proposal as written,?? said Dot Joyce, the mayor?s spokeswoman. ?He would be inclined to support something confining alcohol consumption to specific areas, but not allowing it through the entire stadium.??

Joyce also said Menino does not want the Red Sox to increase the number of fans permitted to take mixed drinks to their seats.

At the hearing last week, Red Sox officials said the mixed drinks available to fans in general seating areas would contain no more alcohol than the beer that is currently sold.

The Red Sox will be hoping to win support from two members of the three-member board, Murati Ferrer and Michael J. Connolly. Last week, board member Suzanne Iannella recused herself from the vote because her sister-in-law, Arlene Iannella, owns HUB Security Systems, which provides non-game-time overnight and weekend security at Fenway Park.

Arlene Iannella is married to Richard Iannella, the outgoing register of Suffolk Probate and Family Court.

If the city approves the Red Sox proposal, the state Alcoholic Beverages Control Commission would still need to approve it.

Police voiced concern about the Red Sox proposal last Wednesday, the day of the hearing, when Boston Police Superintendent William B. Evans, chief of the department?s bureau of field services, filed a letter with the board, saying the department was not notified of the hearing. ?I feel public safety will be jeopardized,?? Evans wrote.

A representative of Menino?s Office of Neighborhood Services initially supported the proposal, but later filed a letter withdrawing his support.

?During my testimony, I did not fully understand what was being requested by the applicant,?? William Onuoha said. ?I strongly request that any action taken on this application be deferred until such time that any or all public safety concerns have been addressed by the Boston Police Department.??

Yesterday, Boston Police Commissioner Edward F. Davis said that, after the hearing, a Red Sox official told police that the sale of mixed drinks would be restricted to five locations accessible to all Red Sox fans, a number Evans said may be acceptable.

?The good news is the Red Sox have reached out to us and clarified their position with us,?? Davis said. ?There are only five locations inside the park where they want to expand, and that?s a much more manageable request.??

However, Davis and his spokeswoman, Elaine Driscoll, said they do not know whether the Red Sox plan to sell mixed drinks on Yawkey Way, which is closed to vehicular traffic on game days and open only to Red Sox ticket holders, or whether the Red Sox plan to allow fans to take mixed drinks to their seats.

Driscoll said police will withhold support from the Red Sox until they are able to review an updated written proposal.

?We?re still awaiting a final plan,?? she said.

At the hearing, the Red Sox said 23 other Major League Baseball stadiums have similar alcohol sales policies.

They also said the plan is comparable to operations at TD Garden, where, a spokeswoman said, mixed drinks are available to fans, regardless of their seating, at seven refreshment stands. All ticket holders are allowed to take the drinks to their seats.

At Gillette Stadium, New England Patriots fans may buy two varieties of machine-mixed alcoholic beverages, margaritas and a rum drink, from about a dozen specialty carts on the concourse level, spokesman Stacey James said. The organization began selling margaritas three years ago and added the rum drink a year ago, James said, adding that fans are allowed to take the drinks to their seats.

But alcohol and Fenway fans have not always mixed well. In 2005, after a four-year period during which the Red Sox added sixteen stands where beer is sold, a surge in complaints about inebriated fans and a scuffle between a fan and Yankees leftfielder Gary Sheffield prompted the team to nearly double its staff of alcohol compliance supervisors.

In 2004, after the Red Sox victory over the Yankees in the American League Championship Series, police fired pepper-pellet guns in a crowd that had turned violent, killing 21-year-old Victoria Snelgrove, an Emerson College student. Snelgrove?s family received a $5 million settlement from the city.

But a Fenway community activist said yesterday that the neighborhood?s relationship with the Red Sox has improved, noting that the team held a community meeting March 16 to announce its plan to increase the sale of mixed drinks.

?It?s a different day with the Red Sox now,?? said Dharmena Downey, executive director of the Fenway Community Development Corporation. ?If this becomes an issue, they?ll work with us.??
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http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...y_questions_sox_plan_for_mixed_drinks/?page=1
 
In 2004, after the Red Sox victory over the Yankees in the American League Championship Series, police fired pepper-pellet guns in a crowd that had turned violent, killing 21-year-old Victoria Snelgrove, an Emerson College student. Snelgrove?s family received a $5 million settlement from the city.
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This is not relevant to the issue, since it happened on an away-game day and had nothing to do with alcohol sales inside the park.
 
Ron Newman said:
This is not relevant to the issue, since it happened on an away-game day and had nothing to do with alcohol sales inside the park.
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Of course not, but that's never stopped the Globe from editorializing the news in the past. They'll still be writing about that incident 25 years from now anytime Fenway and alcohol are mentioned in the same article(that is if the Globe still exists).
 
As I've said in other threads before: the media never allows facts to get in the way of their narrative.

The internet has of course taken a massive bite out of the power of the media by allowing individuals to investigate facts themselves. Blogs, Google, LexisNeux, and Proquest are the banes of the old media's existence.

This is big part why all the dinosaurs frequenting press shows like Emily's Roonie's are usually so down on the internet. They HATE not have a monopoly on relating facts and constructing narratives anymore. Omitting context or outright lying to the public through omission of key facts isn't easy for them to get away with anymore.

Although I must say I find it hilarious when the panel's on that show continue to repeat narratives which have been repeatedly been debunked, simply because one of their favorite newspapers refuses to concede a writer's bias or print a retraction on the basis of now proven facts.
 
There are no factual errors in that piece (that I know of). It was just a matter of using a tangibility-related incident as page-filler. But don't let that get in the way of a good rant.
 
statler said:
There are no factual errors in that piece (that I know of). It was just a matter of using a tangibility-related incident as page-filler. But don't let that get in the way of a good rant.
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It's an issue of relevance. How does the Snelgrove incident relate in any way to selling hard liquor within the park other than as a means to incite opposition to the proposal?
 
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