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mass88 said:
A baseball stadium is a terrible venue for a soccer game.
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Whoever wrote that article has clearly not been following the exploits of NYCFC.
 
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I agree with the two previous statements. Having the REVS play a full season at Fenway would be bad since , at the end of the day, it just would feel like a real soccer field. NYFC has a worse record playing at home than on the road and many in the soccer community blame the current facility situation.
As bad as Gillette's situation is for the REVS , I would much rather travel to foxboro than Fenway. Yes, an occasional 1 or 2 games may be nice but not an entire season.
 
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IMO, they are doing this so Liverpool (you know the team Henry actually owns) can play competitive matches (not just Pre season friendlies) at Fenway.
That would be an event with international viewership. The Revs at Fenway? Small potatoes...
 
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BKNA said:
IMO, they are doing this so Liverpool (you know the team Henry actually owns) can play competitive matches (not just Pre season friendlies) at Fenway.
That would be an event with international viewership. The Revs at Fenway? Small potatoes...
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Competitive EPL football here is way off and even if it did happen, a competitive liverpool game would come close to filling Gilette. Maybe Henry and Kraft could come to some stadium sharing agreement at that point but I doubt there'll be competitive league games outside of England and Wales for a long time.

Maybe the Revs could play one or two games in Fenway but in general, playing soccer in a baseball ground is as bad as playing on lines. Put them in Fenway for a couple of seasons and the atmosphere will be crap, the interest in a soccer specific stadium will wane.
 
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Everywhere I go in the city I see tons of young kids/teens/adults playing soccer. I see soccer more than any other sport. The fans are definitely here I think the stadium would do very well in an urban environment.
 
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stick n move said:
Everywhere I go in the city I see tons of young kids/teens/adults playing soccer. I see soccer more than any other sport. The fans are definitely here I think the stadium would do very well in an urban environment.
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Yup, a stadium fit for purpose would kill it. I'd go every other week! But it's all about perceptions and tonnes would go to Fenway and be disappointed and there fore less likely to continue supporting the Revs. They should stay in Foxboro till they are the main tenants in a purpose built stadium. To do anything else is messing about, as NYCFC are discovering.
 
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Thread is over 10 years old. Still no solid proposal.
 
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Why am I not surprised that this is the first post I see after a months' long sabbatical.
 
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Ruairi said:
Competitive EPL football here is way off and even if it did happen, a competitive liverpool game would come close to filling Gilette. .
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Come close to filling Gillette? They fill stadiums MUCH bigger than Gillette (including U of Michigan, the Rose Bowl. etc...) for preseason friendlies already. Of course they could fill Gillette.
But John Henry doesnt own Gillette now does he? Anfield (home of Liverpool) is bigger than Gillette. If they were going for maximum stadium capacity in the US, Gillette wouldnt even be an option.

I dont think the EPL playing in the US is far off. It'll just take an owner pushing the agenda. The benefits to the UK are obvious (as shown by the increased popularity of the NFL in the UK after they started the London games).
The Revs in Fenway on a permanent basis makes no sense for The Revs or Red Sox. The Revs would be sharing concessions without increasing capacity. Not to mention the fan experience of watching the game. A game or 2 here or there to get a different fan base than what they get in Foxboro? Sure, but they arent looking to change the wall in Fenway for an MLS game here and there.
 
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BKNA said:
Come close to filling Gillette? They fill stadiums MUCH bigger than Gillette (including U of Michigan, the Rose Bowl. etc...) for preseason friendlies already. Of course they could fill Gillette.
But John Henry doesnt own Gillette now does he? Anfield (home of Liverpool) is bigger than Gillette. If they were going for maximum stadium capacity in the US, Gillette wouldnt even be an option.

I dont think the EPL playing in the US is far off. It'll just take an owner pushing the agenda. The benefits to the UK are obvious (as shown by the increased popularity of the NFL in the UK after they started the London games).
The Revs in Fenway on a permanent basis makes no sense for The Revs or Red Sox. The Revs would be sharing concessions without increasing capacity. Not to mention the fan experience of watching the game. A game or 2 here or there to get a different fan base than what they get in Foxboro? Sure, but they arent looking to change the wall in Fenway for an MLS game here and there.
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Ok, but Gilette is a good bit bigger than Anfield (even with it's extended main stand)
 
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I stand corrected, I thought Anfield was in the 70s.
wiki:
Anfield Capacity: 54,167
Gillette Capacity: 68,756
 
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i hope such a colossal waste of precious urban space is never built. i'd like to see all the college football fields consolidated to 1 or 2. i hope they can rise to the occasion and find a new home for the USPS before ALL the land is gone. It's a race against time.
 
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odurandina said:
i hope such a colossal waste of precious urban space is never built. i'd like to see all the college football fields consolidated to 1 or 2. i hope they can rise to the occasion and find a new home for the USPS before ALL the land is gone. It's a race against time.
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It doesn't have to be a waste of urban space. You can't claim that Fenway and the Garden aren't amazing contributions to Boston urbanism.
 
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I dont think a soccer stadium would be a waste of space at all. Especially if they treat the area around it like patriots place. The area is a wasteland right now I would gladly welcome an addition like that. Let me guess you would rather have a 800ft tall tower built there? I live right down the street from this and as it stands now there is no reason to go over there its a parking lot and some falling down buildings. That is a waste of space.
 
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I don't think that an urban MLS specific stadium that is close to public transit is a waste of space. Better a stadium in Southie/Dorchester than a bio lab.
 
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fattony said:
It doesn't have to be a waste of urban space. You can't claim that Fenway and the Garden aren't amazing contributions to Boston urbanism.
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i must have missed something because my thinking is; 'How is this not fully spectacular? vs a single use waste of space land challenged Boston??'

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Fenway Park deserves to be a national monument... keep it forever and build more seats around it in several phases. TD Garden + New West End is great. #815' at 65 Martha.
 
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odurandina said:
i hope such a colossal waste of precious urban space is never built. i'd like to see all the college football fields consolidated to 1 or 2. i hope they can rise to the occasion and find a new home for the USPS before ALL the land is gone. It's a race against time.
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So you're saying Fenway is a waste of urban space???
 
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odurandina said:
i must have missed something because my thinking is; 'How is this not fully spectacular? vs a single use waste of space land challenged Boston??'

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Fenway Park deserves to be a national monument... keep it forever and build more seats around it in several phases. TD Garden + New West End is great. #815' at 65 Martha.
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Fenway Park is already on the national registry of historic places. Fenway and Brookline NIMBYS will always stand in the way of a wrecking ball. What more do you want?

You must be despondent since the Sox announced that they were going replace Pesky's Pole.
 
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Its not a waste of space when you think that there can be concerts, events, umb games, random one off games like hockey or something, days where its open to the public to play local soccer games, or hockey, maybe a skateboarding competition, and then surround it with a bunch of new stores, bars, restaurants patriots place style, and it starts to paint a much different picture. This place is literally a waste of space right now because there is nothing there. Id be glad to have this built in my backyard as long as they fix that mess of a rotary which is in the works anyways. Also the people who live in harbor point are isolated away from all the retail...etc, so this would be great for all of those college kids to have a patriots place to go to essentially on campus to go along with their new student housing coming soon too. Build it!
 
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BKNA said:
Come close to filling Gillette? They fill stadiums MUCH bigger than Gillette (including U of Michigan, the Rose Bowl. etc...) for preseason friendlies already. Of course they could fill Gillette.
But John Henry doesnt own Gillette now does he? Anfield (home of Liverpool) is bigger than Gillette. If they were going for maximum stadium capacity in the US, Gillette wouldnt even be an option.

I dont think the EPL playing in the US is far off. It'll just take an owner pushing the agenda. The benefits to the UK are obvious (as shown by the increased popularity of the NFL in the UK after they started the London games).
The Revs in Fenway on a permanent basis makes no sense for The Revs or Red Sox. The Revs would be sharing concessions without increasing capacity. Not to mention the fan experience of watching the game. A game or 2 here or there to get a different fan base than what they get in Foxboro? Sure, but they arent looking to change the wall in Fenway for an MLS game here and there.
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Gillette has never sold out for a soccer game. The largest crowd ever was the US-Spain friendly back in 2010 after Spain won the World Cup - a little over 64,000 showed up of which 70% were Spain fans. Brazil has had friendlies at Gillette that have sold over 55,000 tickets which is impressive. The preseason friendlies only sellout if the big European clubs are playing - specifically Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United. The German, Italian and French clubs don't have the following in this country that the Spanish and English clubs enjoy.

Until the MLS becomes more popular (it's not even the most popular soccer league in its own country) it doesn't matter if the stadium is accessible by mass transit - they will still not sellout their stadium.
 
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