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The old brick power plant buildings are actually really cool.

Would much rather see those repurposed in *any way* (museum/exhibition space, retail, offices, residential) and any one of the sea of parking lots, scrap yards, oil tanks, etc. in the area be used for the soccer stadium.
 
itchy said:
The old brick power plant buildings are actually really cool.

Would much rather see those repurposed in *any way* (museum/exhibition space, retail, offices, residential) and any one of the sea of parking lots, scrap yards, oil tanks, etc. in the area be used for the soccer stadium.
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I think the comparison’s been made in this thread before, but the aesthetic isn’t too far from London’s Battersea Power Station which was recently redeveloped.

Maybe we’re moving into a “post-industrial chic” era. Could be a big deal for the brand of places like Lowell, Worcester, etc.
 
dshoost88 said:
I was looking so forward to the *NSYNC reunion in this weekend’s latest Trolls film, I didn’t even think to consider it could feature king_vibe, too!
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It’s an evil, corrupting industry, the complete inverse of productive or healthy human activity. Basically every religion in history had this one figured out from the start.
 
Back to the agreement between city of Everett and the Krafts, there is this rather ambiguous language in paragraph l.,

"l. ....In doing so, Proponent commits to funding a study and subsequent implementation of improved pedestrian infrastructure from the Sullivan Square MBTA Station to the Project Site to ensure protected and efficient access, subject to any relevant local and State approvals and availability of funds;"

First, what is meant by "protected"? Does this mean "protected" from the weather? or "protected" from vehicular traffic?

Second, "availability of funds". For me, this is an immediate flag that the Krafts, as stadium proponent, wouldn't be paying for this, but expect that others -- i.e., the city of Boston or the state -- would. This entire pedestrian route lies within the city of Boston. (Another reason for the Mayor of Boston to go ballistic.) Why else would the pedestrian infrastructure be subject to funds availability?

As an aside, I think one would need to reconfigure the station, with 20-25,000 fans queuing and waiting for the next train after a fixture (match) was over.
 
Combing through the comments on the Boston Globe regarding the story, I picked up on a litany of things that makes my earlier comments void and null.

1) The YIMBYS (in the TBG comment section) came out in full force of the proposed venues. The YIMBYS showed Wu and the NIMBYS no mercy. This truly is bizarro world. I’m not complaining.

2) The initial lede that singles out Wu as the major roadblock, was removed (probably by request). My gut instinct tells me that she got dragged online from the getgo from YIMBYS.

3) It’s clear that she (or someone on her staff) has a burner account on TBG. Because she was bringing up the usual social justice talking points that got her elected (e.g., focusing on “the unhoused” and the like). If that’s how she’s going to torpedo the proposal, then she’s already lost the power to stop it. In Menino’s day, whenever he would kill a bold project that went against the pseudo sensibilities of the Boston voters, he didn’t give an SJW diatribe as his reasoning. “Because I said so” was sufficient enough. If she can’t handle Mass and Cass in an ethical and professional way, then how does she expect to take on Kraft and DiMaria? She can’t SJW her way out of a crisis every single time. It’s an unsustainable ecosystem. Using the usual SJW talking points of “stunning and brave” and “unhoused” isn’t a successful method when dealing with another municipality and/or a controversial businessperson.
 
Charlie_mta said:
Well, I've never gambled in my life, and never will. The odds are stacked in favor of the house.
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I stopped gambling when low minimum black jack tables disappeared. It's fine as an entertainment cost, and I always went in to a casino with a budget, expecting to play it all out, then quit for the night. Once in a while I made some money, but it's a fool's errand to bet large and often. The real problem with casinos is that not everybody has such a clear understanding of how the odds are set. Had a drink with somebody last night who was talking up a bunch of new rules at the Everett casino's craps tables and how much better it was and easier to win large amounts of money. I kind of stopped paying attention to him, but after a while, I asked, "you know the house still wins, right?" He kind of blinked and then started talking again about the higher payouts. I think he maybe legitimately doesn't understand.
 
Charlie_mta said:
Well, I've never gambled in my life, and never will. The odds are stacked in favor of the house.
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I mean, compare it against pay-to-play entertainment in the area like Kings Bowling or Puttshack mini golf. There, you’re guaranteed to pay at least $20-$30 on top of your food/drink orders.

I was at Encore this past Friday to celebrate a friend’s birthday. I took out $200 at the start and ended with $235, which just about covered the round of drinks I bought for my buddies.

Yes, I could just have easily lost money, but that’s part of the fun. And as long as you’re up-front about how much you’re willing to lose, then you don’t need to be much worse off than if you’d gone out somewhere else.

And of course gambling is much worse for people with addictive personalities than bowling or minigolf. Not trying to downplay that. Just making the point that the whole thing isn’t inherently evil or a sure fire way to lose your life savings.
 
kingofsheeba said:
FWIW, I don’t support any political party or politician at this point. Kraft is a horrible human being on so many levels. He’s a Zionist and a human trafficker. However, he should be able to build without generational NIMBYism standing in his way.
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I come to Archboston because I love Boston and I care about architecture. I also come to Archboston to get away from my constant monitoring of the troubling conflict between Israel and Hamas. You and I clearly have very different perspectives. As a proud Zionist and a Jew (I suspect I am not the only one on this forum), I resent your flippant characterization of someone as being a horrible human being simply because he is a Zionist. You may not recognize it as such, but many would consider that as crossing the line into antisemitism. Rather than engaging in a political debate that neither of us will win, I would appreciate it if you'd leave your opinions on this matter to the appropriate discussion boards.
 
Because we're here to talk about the ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN DESIGN... what does an MLS stadium look like?

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I come to Archboston because I love Boston and I care about architecture. I also come to Archboston to get away from my constant monitoring of the troubling conflict between Israel and Hamas. You and I clearly have very different perspectives. As a proud Zionist and a Jew (I suspect I am not the only one on this forum), I resent your flippant characterization of someone as being a horrible human being simply because he is a Zionist. You may not recognize it as such, but many would consider that as crossing the line into antisemitism. Rather than engaging in a political debate that neither of us will win, I would appreciate it if you'd leave your opinions on this matter to the appropriate discussion boards.
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Really well said, but let me say it another way: Take your antisemitic bullshit elsewhere.
 
Apologies if this has already been posted, but lots of updates in the news lately:

www.boston.com

Senate bill could enable Revolution stadium in Everett at last

The Revs currently share Gillette Stadium in Foxborough with the Patriots, but the Kraft Group has long sought a site in Greater Boston.
www.boston.com

I guess politicians in Boston objected to the fact that they were not consulted about the plans in Everett.
 
Suffolk 83 said:
You think there's anything of substance in the comment section? :rolleyes:
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In this particular dialogue, I do.

As far as my views on Israel. Yeah, I get it. There are a lot of people who support what Israel is doing to my people. However, I’m not going to waste an opportunity to speak up when necessary. You have the right to do the same. Free speech.

Now that we have clear indication that the stadium WILL be built, I think that we will have something that can incorporate the smokestacks like what you’d see on a Pink Floyd album. I’m excited to see what this looks like when completed. Hopefully the Sullivan Square multimodal center will be completed by or around 2040.
 
Patrick Winn said:
Apologies if this has already been posted, but lots of updates in the news lately:

www.boston.com

Senate bill could enable Revolution stadium in Everett at last

The Revs currently share Gillette Stadium in Foxborough with the Patriots, but the Kraft Group has long sought a site in Greater Boston.
www.boston.com

I guess politicians in Boston objected to the fact that they were not consulted about the plans in Everett.
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The proposed stadium is not in Boston, so I don't see how Boston can veto it. Yes, the boundary is close by, and traffic from the stadium would impact Boston, but the bottom line is, it's not in Boston.
 
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