New Red and Orange Line Cars

[king_vibe]

Who do you even punish? This order was placed in 2014, under the Patrick administration. How many of the decisionmakers are even still in government or still working for the T?

In case you didn’t catch get my drift:

China executes corrupt Hangzhou and Suzhou officials

Two Chinese officials - both vice-mayors of eastern cities - are executed after being convicting of taking millions of dollars in bribes.

www.bbc.com

 

[Brattle Loop]

In case you didn’t catch get my drift:

Somehow I don't think CCP-style accountability's a good import.

 

[Jahvon09]

Extreme slowness, bureaucracy, the blame game & lack of caring & reliability all seem to be the ingredients for disaster in this recipe.

 

[Jahvon09]

The Healey Administration steps in.

Healey says she needs more info on MBTA train contract - CommonWealth Magazine

GOV. MAURA HEALEY said on Monday that she needs more information on the status of a problem-plagued contract with a Chinese company manufacturing Red and Orange Line trains for the MBTA. “We’ve got to get to the bottom of it,” she said after a meeting with top legislative leaders, reciting her...

commonwealthmagazine.org

 

[Jahvon09]

More talk on what to do about the extreme slowness of the CRRC.

A new MBTA board of directors is needed urgently - CommonWealth Magazine

THE HEADLINE spoke volumes. As the MBTA’s interim general manager laid out a comprehensive presentation on the history and current status of the troubled procurement of new Red and Orange Line cars, the MBTA’s board sat silent and “asked no questions.” It was a jaw dropping, but unsurprising...

commonwealthmagazine.org

 

[F-Line to Dudley]

NETransit's log was just updated to say "Deliveries may resume in Feb 23". We shall see.

 

[bakgwailo]

I feel like perhaps the best case outcome at this point would be for the State to just allow CRRC to complete the rest of the Red Line, at least, in China and ship fully completed cars (AFAIK, the MBTA has not received many of the Red Line shells past the initial set they have). This in theory might help CRRC save a bit of face/money, too. With all of the OL shells here try to salvage Springfield and wrap it up, and then use Springfield of any needed warranty claims on either the Red or Orange as needed and then shut it down. Only way I can see from an operational standpoint of being able to accelerate and have any chance at saving (timeline wise) the RL order. OL is kind of stuck with what it is, though.

 

[Jahvon09]

Jeffrey Gonneville said that he wants to try to work with the CRRC to better understand how the mess with the Chinese railcar company can be solved.

Gonneville running the MBTA differently - CommonWealth Magazine

JEFFREY GONNEVILLE, who took over as acting general manager of the MBTA in early January, is running the transit authority differently. The first hint came on January 19, when he showed up at a meeting of a subcommittee of the MBTA board to listen in on a presentation about the latest glitch...

commonwealthmagazine.org

 

[Jahvon09]

Looks like CRRC is being looked into. I think it's about time. Things have been moving too ridiculously slow with them!!

Healey appointing non-MBTA team to review CRRC situation - CommonWealth Magazine

GOV. MAURA HEALEY said on Thursday that she is putting together a team of non-MBTA technical and legal experts to review the troubling situation at the Chinese-owned Springfield assembly plant for new Red and Orange Line trains. Healey said she learned about the problems in Springfield a couple...

commonwealthmagazine.org

 

[Jahvon09]

I feel like perhaps the best case outcome at this point would be for the State to just allow CRRC to complete the rest of the Red Line, at least, in China and ship fully completed cars (AFAIK, the MBTA has not received many of the Red Line shells past the initial set they have). This in theory might help CRRC save a bit of face/money, too. With all of the OL shells here try to salvage Springfield and wrap it up, and then use Springfield of any needed warranty claims on either the Red or Orange as needed and then shut it down. Only way I can see from an operational standpoint of being able to accelerate and have any chance at saving (timeline wise) the RL order. OL is kind of stuck with what it is, though.

But they have also started making the railcars there for Los Angeles as well. I thought that they would at least have a plant out there for that.

 

[Jahvon09]

Gov. Healey states that she's not rushing things for the MBTA.

Healey not rushing things at the MBTA - CommonWealth Magazine

GOV. MAURA HEALEY is slowly – some would say too slowly – putting the pieces in place to take control of the MBTA. Back in August, when it was widely expected she would replace Charlie Baker as governor, Healey said she intended to hire a new MBTA general manager and a statewide transportation...

commonwealthmagazine.org

 

[F-Line to Dudley]

Gov. Healey states that she's not rushing things for the MBTA.

Healey not rushing things at the MBTA - CommonWealth Magazine

GOV. MAURA HEALEY is slowly – some would say too slowly – putting the pieces in place to take control of the MBTA. Back in August, when it was widely expected she would replace Charlie Baker as governor, Healey said she intended to hire a new MBTA general manager and a statewide transportation...

commonwealthmagazine.org

Wrong thread. This has nothing to do with CRRC or the Red/Orange cars.

 

[Teban54]

Deal with it. Don't know where to put it.

The "General MBTA Topics" thread exists.

 

[Jahvon09]

The "General MBTA Topics" thread exists.

Ok, thanks! He could've told me that, instead of just complaining that it's in the wrong thread.

 

[Zash]

Ok, thanks! He could've told me that, instead of just complaining that it's in the wrong thread.

It would have taken all of two seconds to actually just find it yourself in the "Transit and Infrastructure" section, instead of just complaining and saying to "Deal with it."

 

[Jahvon09]

I rode on the new Red Line train Friday for the first time! It was quiet, nice looking inside, but it was moving awfully slow!! I suspect that there are those aggravating slow zones on the Red Line as well!! I only went 2 stops from Park Street to South Station.

 

[tysmith95]

I rode on the new Red Line train Friday! It was quiet, nice looking inside, but it was moving awfully slow!! I suspect that there are those aggravating slow zones on the Red Line as well!! I only went 2 stops from Park Street to South Station. View attachment 34365

Park Street to south station it's faster to walk.

 

[Jahvon09]

Park Street to south station it's faster to walk.

I was in a rush, trying to get some business taken care of. Besides, I had to take the SL2 bus to South Boston.

 

[Jahvon09]

The Orange Line is supposed to be completely done after the shutdown last summer, right? Yet I just read a couple of days ago that there was track work still being done at Wellington!! Why is this work still happening?!! All of this work was supposed to be done last summer!!

 

[BosMaineiac]

The Orange Line is supposed to be completely done after the shutdown last summer, right? Yet I just read a couple of days ago that there was track work still being done at Wellington!! Why is this work still happening?!! All of this work was supposed to be done last summer!!

The orange line being “done” was never the intention of the shutdown. The intention was to work on emergency repairs and complete “5 years of work in a month”. Was that accomplished? Probably not, but the backlog of deferred maintenance on the OL and the MBTA as a whole is substantial. Completing all of that maintenance in 1 month was never realistic, nor was it even the stated goal of the shutdown. There will always be maintenance needed on every functioning railroad, the T just needs to play catch-up after years of not doing enough.