Portland, ME - New Construction Continued

Patrick probably has his hands full trying to help Auburn get it together in the world of city planning which may eventually be a stepping stone to assist Portland in the future after a much needed layover in Lewiston!
 
This is probably a heavily administrative position--and think I would be great, but I suspect the recruitment/review committee to be interested in asking questions like this: now, what kind of experience do you have in municipal management? While I could say I am a progressively minded planner, and a land use attorney, I suspect I won't be the only one amongst the applicants. Bath's director of planning just stepped down, and there were over 80 applicants for his position. And Penny herself was an attorney prior to planning director, so there is sure to be some extremely competitive applicants out there. But, that said, I think the position would be ideal for my career goals. I would also be very interested in working as corporation counsel, or assistant CC, for the City someday.
 
Night view of the marine terminal re-construction:

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***The Forecaster published an article regarding possible development along West Commercial St beyond Casco Bay Bridge.....


Office building proposed for West Commercial St. in Portland
By Randy Billings
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Nov 01, 2011 8:50 am
PORTLAND — A local development company hopes to build a three-story office building on a vacant stretch of Commercial Street west of the Casco Bay Bridge.

Vincent Veroneau, president and chief executive officer of J.B. Brown & Sons, on Monday said the proposal is generating interest from potential tenants. It's too soon to say who might occupy the building, he said, but the company hopes to begin construction next summer.

Before that can happen, however, J.B. Brown must first finishing purchasing the 11-acre parcel from the Portland Terminal Co., which operates the Pan Am freight trains.

In a letter to city planners, Veroneau said the company must close the land purchase before Dec. 19. Veroneau must also secure a zone change for the property, some of which is zoned as residential.

"It is essentially impossible to obtain a serious commitment from a user on a development plan that is not allowed by the zoning ordinance," he said in an Oct. 21 letter to the city.

Veroneau said the zone change is compatible with the city's Comprehensive Plan. He is not seeking a zone change for a portion of land that fronts Danforth Street.

Although west Commercial Street is largely undeveloped waterfront, he said the office building would be on the inland side of the street, between the Portland Star Match Co. building*– which is owned by J.B. Brown & Sons*– and Benny's Friend Clams. It would preserve the waterfront for marine uses.

"The land we are proposing to rezone does not have direct access to the Fore River," he said.

Veroneau said construction rates remain favorable, but the project will only be built if there are committed tenants.

"We do not intend to undertake a speculative development," he said. "We believe the land holds long-term development potential, so the acquisition of the parcel makes sense despite the current economy."

Veroneau said that two-thirds of the 60,000- to 70,000-square-foot building would have to be under contract before construction could begin. If the project fills up, the company would like to build two smaller office buildings on the same site, according to planning documents.

Veroneau said he estimates the project would require an initial investment of about $10 million. The investment potential for the site would be between $20 million and $30 million, he said.

The Planning Board will take up the zone change request in a Nov. 8 workshop.

Based on preliminary feedback, Veroneau said he is cautiously optimistic the project will move forward.

"It's a convenient location for access to both downtown and the highway," he said. "You have the best of both worlds: suburban access on the peninsula."

Randy Billings can be reached at 781-3661 ext. 100 or rbillings@theforecaster.net. Follow him on Twitter: @randybillings
 
He's also smart because with the likely Amtrak relocation the value will increase further (probably).

But, a three story building on 11 acres west of Commercial Street? And then two smaller buildings later? That sounds pretty suburban. JB Brown was supposed to build the nice looking brick office building near Deering Lumber a few years back, next to Baxter Place...would have been great looking. They were also to have built a large convention center in the 1980s on the land around Brian Boru (just south of it, actually). That was JB Atbro, which stood for a mix of JB Brown and Atlantic Co., or something like that.
 
I agree with your comments about the planned layout being suburban....I think any buildings should be at LEAST 8 stories.....if they start small, maybe height extensions can implemented later on as growth occurs. Just a thought
 
I agree with your comments about the planned layout being suburban....I think any buildings should be at LEAST 8 stories.....if they start small, maybe height extensions can implemented later on as growth occurs. Just a thought

For that section of town, I think 8 stories and up would be appropriate, but not necessary. However, I do think 3 stories is an ABSOLUTE minimum, and would rather see 4-5 stories there similar to the Old Port (which the match co already looks like). Anything too tall there would be out of place (not to say I wouldn't support it, though, as it may draw additional development of that sort in the future, after an stage of awkwardly blending in, or lacking to blend in actually).
 
So this should be somewhere in this area:

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There's not much space to work with, it will be interesting to see more details for what they are planning. There are still railroad tracks between Commercial Street and the steep elevation up the hill. Portland Trails is still planning on making a path through here to connect with the new Veteran's Bridge as far as I know. A few pictures from earlier today (using up some time off from work and trying to get the most out of my bicycle before it's too cold for me)

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So this should be somewhere in this area:

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There's not much space to work with, it will be interesting to see more details for what they are planning. There are still railroad tracks between Commercial Street and the steep elevation up the hill. Portland Trails is still planning on making a path through here to connect with the new Veteran's Bridge as far as I know. A few pictures from earlier today (using up some time off from work and trying to get the most out of my bicycle before it's too cold for me)

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Nice, thanks. There doesn't appear to be much room, you're right, but perhaps enough for a nice linear row of urban buildings (3 stories would be fine, in line with what is there now, and 2 might be fine as well, but I just hope they are connected if that is their height....as opposed to separate free standing structures). The issue to be dealt with here is the RR ROW and how far it extends beyond the tracks. That might not intrude into his property, but could pose an access problem for cars. Unless there is an easement of some sort from the RR (the right to travel across the land for access). But then again, does the RR own that land, or just the rights to use it? I don't know enough about it, admittedly. I think (and hope) that trail is still on track (pun unintended)
 
New CPort Credit Union at 285 Forest Avenue is under construction. It's the lot across from the USM Glickman library and was formerly an Arby's. I wouldn't have known about this if I wasn't at the library today.

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Rendering from their site (I'm not a sketch-up pro but I could have done better than this):

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An odd quote about the new location:

The branch will feature energy efficient design and pedestrian and bike-friendly access on traffic-heavy Forest Avenue. Its location will also be convenient to travel from all directions; it is located yards away from 295 exits 6A and 6B and accessed easily from east-west travel on Forest Avenue. “We’ve designed a conference room for the branch that will also be available to local community groups as a presentation and meeting space. ‘Community’ is one of our core values, and we’re proud to incorporate that commitment into the branch design,” said Board Chair Scott Paquet.

Unless they are planning on removing the exit 6 interchange, I'm not sure how they can improve non-car access from downtown [/cynicism]. We'll see I guess.
 
When I was in undergrad and home from school I would study weekends on the top floor of the USM library and look out the windows on my breaks. I used to always think of how Intermed would fit into things. In the process, I thought that the Arby's lot should most definitely be redeveloped (and I was thinking taller, given its proximity to downtown). Same with that whole block that Hannaford sits on. But I guess you have to draw the downtown/suburban line somewhere. At least this won't be an arby's.

Here is an interesting link: http://www.portlandmaine.gov/citymanagers/stateofportlandseconomy101911.pdf
 
Hey Corey, how do your ears not pick up somebody saying two feet away from you to his kid "Let's go cause there's that crazy guy who takes pictures of everybody outside" ?
 
Hey Corey, how do your ears not pick up somebody saying two feet away from you to his kid "Let's go cause there's that crazy guy who takes pictures of everybody outside" ?

Hmmm I don't recall this happening recently but maybe it was windy out or I was really in the photography state of mind. I wouldn't be surprised if people did say that though. I'd love to take photos in NYC or some other large city where people seem to be more receptive to other people. Although I should say I am extremely timid and rarely take photos of people on the streets.
 
Wait, so that wasn't you at Exchange st. Starbucks yesterday? I tried to scare some stranger?

Sorry random dude.
 
The above concept plan looks like a waste of time. All parking and a few short buildings? Isn't that what the greater Maine Mall area was made for?

I don't think height will be an issue for the residents above because that hill is probably 10 stories tall. Although, when they were redesigning the old million dollar bridge to become the Casco Bay bridge, there were issues raised as to view sheds blocked by some of the preliminary concept designs, so you never know what they would say about new development even closer.
 
and I think the only thing good about the civic center plan is that it will add windows on Free Street and enhance the liveliness of that space thereby.
 
Nice advertising here. It's next to five guys burgers and buy the word "cooler" and that people may already love them, I'm guessing either Pinkberry, Jamba Juice, or even the return of Smoothie King. Any inside info?

www.425forestreet.com

If this ends up being another national chain I think you're going to hear the start of something whether in blogs or editorials or the council itself. What it tells me is that Portland is viable if people want to open up here. From nothing to 5 guys, this place, and Urban Outfitters in one year.

Your guesses were close! I might be the last person to have read what is moving in here, because I forgot about the mystery soon after hearing about it, but it's going to be a The Gelato Fiasco. They will keep their flagship shop in Brunswick. I bet they will do good here. But I feel bad for Gorgeous Gelato which is literally across the street. Fore Street can only have so many Gelato shops.
 

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