Quincy General Developments

I think who the business serves matters. The construction equipment storage site adds no value to the community, and the auto shop on a well trafficked corner barely more than that. Both could even argued as negatives, it's not like there is a lack of auto repair shops in the neighborhood. My personal anecdote is now instead of driving to Rockland I can make that trip walking within my own community. I agree the parking lot for the Brook Rd shop looks too large in that rendering. I'm more hopeful for the one on the corner of Liberty/Water because it's pretty spatially constrained, and this quote when the board (which ended up approving the permit) pressed the owner on traffic concerns is positive:

Zoning board members voiced concerns about traffic issues, partly because of the proximity of a BJ's Gas station on the other side of Liberty Street.

"The traffic there is terrible," board member John Himmel said at an Aug. 22 meeting. "I can't imagine this is not going to add to a horrible corner. You've got a couple sets of lights. They back up terribly. I get off there to go home every night. It's a mess."

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Most of the dispensary's clientele would be local, Silverman told the board. Five years ago, when recreational marijuana became legal in Massachusetts, people would drive across the state and form long lines at the few existing stores, he said.

"You just don't see that anymore," he said. "This is more like a local neighborhood liquor store or pharmacy in terms of your patronage."

These projects are also just a couple indidividual pieces in a broader pick up of development in the neighborhood. Construction has started at 73-75 Liberty Street. 345 unites approved on Centre/Intervale.

As much as I'm the first person to complain about Qunicy's "compliant" MBTA communities act plan, it is almost entirely focused here and should exert some pressure on the properties that aren't already being turned into a bus depot.
 
I think who the business serves matters. The construction equipment storage site adds no value to the community, and the auto shop on a well trafficked corner barely more than that. Both could even argued as negatives, it's not like there is a lack of auto repair shops in the neighborhood. My personal anecdote is now instead of driving to Rockland I can make that trip walking within my own community
Just because those businesses aren't appealing to you personally doesn't mean they're a negative on the community. That community, mind you, along and beyond Kincaide Park, is one of the more unsafe and unsightly parts of the city; as pro-pot as I am acting like it's going to do anything but be a prettier place to pass by for all but the few locals who frequent it is overselling things.
 
This is the first I've heard that the Mayor has his sights set on the Star Market and surrounding shopping areas across Burgin. There's not much info provided though.
 
This is the first I've heard that the Mayor has his sights set on the Star Market and surrounding shopping areas across Burgin. There's not much info provided though.
I’ve been suspecting it was coming, with Olympia Sports, Dressbarn, and Boston Market all out that plaza seems realllllly ripe.

The Star market plaza I’m a little more surprised about, but it seems like they’re just eyeing it for the long term which makes total sense. With the granite place domino falling that plaza is the next logical step.
 
Quincy's $4 million plan to add to city parks includes $1.8 million land buy

QUINCY − Mayor Thomas Koch wants to spend $4 million to create more athletic fields and a new park to honor Navy sailors and shipyard workers.

The money would add a half-acre to Cleverly Court Field near the former Fore River Shipyard for more soccer fields.

On the other side of the city, a small historic park featuring the Navy's "Lone Sailor" statue would be built in Squantum's Marina Bay near the boardwalk.

If approved, the projects would be paid for by the city's 6% hotel/motel tax, and would not directly affect Quincy taxpayers, according to a municipal finance report.

The finance committee unanimously approved the request, advancing it to the full council for a final vote on a later date.

Joe Shea, principal of Granite City Partners, a Quincy firm providing project management services, outlined the plans for both parks at a city council finance subcommittee meeting on April 8.

More green space for Quincy Point. More room for youth soccer fields

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Cleverly Court Field contains two 30-foot-by-50-foot soccer fields that host Quincy Youth Soccer's under-10 program in the spring and the fall. Of the $4 million request, $2.5 million would go toward expanding those fields and the parking lot which serves them.

Quincy currently has five publicly owned soccer/lacrosse fields, according to a city webpage.

Most of the money would go toward purchasing 570 South St., which abuts the park, and demolishing the six-bay self-service car wash now occupying the land. The project would create a flat area for future development but would not cover the addition of any new facilities. "That would be another process," Shea said.

According to a breakdown of the spending plan, $1.8 million would go toward purchasing the car wash and the 1/2 acre on which it sits, which the city's most recent assessment valued at $684,400. The property was appraised for its market value by Cusack and Associates based on actual sales of similar properties, according to the appraiser's report. It last sold in 2019 for $1.25 million.

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The property is owned by 570 South Street LLC, whose listed agent is Matthew J. Nicholls, the principal of Braintree-based MJ Nicholls Landscaping.

MJ Nicholls Landscaping has bid on multiple public contracts in Quincy. In 2022, it won a contract worth $2.6 million for renovations at Mount Wollaston Cemetery. In the same year, it won a $426,500 contract for tree plantings.

Ward 2 Councilor Richard Ash, who represents Quincy Point, welcomed the city's purchase of the land.

"This car wash could very well be purchased by a developer," Ash said, noting the industrial character and lack of green space in the district.

But Quincy's plans for Cleverly Park don't end there.

The city is also working to acquire a 1.82-acre vacant lot across Cleverly Court currently owned by the Massachusetts Water Resources Authority with plans to "incorporate it into the vision of the larger park area ... in a neighborhood that really needs it," according to Koch's Chief of Staff Chris Walker.

Purchase of this parcel is not related to the $4 million request. It is uncertain how much, if anything, the acquisition would cost the city.

A Navy park at a former plant and naval air station at Squantum Point

The city would use the remaining $1.5 million of the $4 million request to create the "Quincy Navy Park at Squantum," on Victory Road between Marina Bay's Port 305 and Siros restaurants.

The park would honor men and women who served in the Navy or worked at one of Quincy's two shipyards – Fore River and the Victory Destroyer Plant, which was operational from 1918 to 1920. The Fore River Shipyard, one of the largest on the East Cost at its apex, was founded in 1896 and closed permanently in 1986.

The centerpiece of the park would be U.S. Navy's "Lone Sailor" monument, Shea said. Lone Sailor statues now stand in 18 locations around the world, including Pearl Harbor and Normandy, France. This would be the 19th, and the first in coastal New England, he said.

"He is about 25 years old, a senior second class petty officer who is fast becoming a seagoing veteran," reads a description of the Lone Sailor statue by the United States Navy Memorial organization.

In addition to the statue, the park would feature plaques honoring 11 Quincy natives who made significant contributions to the Navy, including six admirals, Shea said.

The admirals include Colin James Kilrain, John Ready, Giles Stedman, Bartholomew Hogan, Forrest Royal and Stephen Keith.

Other honorees include former Massachusetts Attorney General and Navy Lieutenant Francis X. Bellotti, former editor of the Quincy Sun Henry Bosworth who served in the Navy during World War II, retired naval aviator and Vietnam POW Richard Stratton and Charles Francis Adams III, who was U.S. Secretary of the Navy under Herbert Hoover.

One plaque would honor Mildred "Millie" Cox, one of the first women to join the Marines. Cox is a World War II veteran who later worked for Quincy Public Schools and Veterans Services while raising a family in the city. She recently turned 100 years old.

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Another attraction at the park would be the bell of the USS Quincy, which was built in the Fore River Shipyard and launched June 23, 1943. The ship participated in the D-Day invasion of Normandy on June 6, 1944, where she fired on German batteries stationed along Utah Beach.

The ship was decommissioned in 1954 and sold for scrapping twenty years later, according to a Navy webpage.

The USS Quincy also hosted the meeting between President Franklin Roosevelt and Saudi King Abdul Aziz, in which the United States promised the monarchy military assistance in exchange for access to oil, according to a Harvard University global affairs publication.

What is the total cost of the two projects including interest?

The city proposes to issue a 20-year bond to fund both projects, which would be paid off in 2044. With interest, the total projected cost of the bond comes to $5,761,268.50.

However, the Marina Bay site designated to host the park is private property, belonging to two different companies. The city has agreed to pay the companies $1.2 million in licensing fees, over and above the requested $4 million. Walker said the money comes from the federal American Rescue Plan Act and will have no direct impact on taxpayers.

One of the companies, Board Walk Shops Realty LLC, is controlled by Peter and Thomas O'Connell, according to state records. The O'Connell family is well known in the city for developing much of Marina Bay beginning in the 1980s. The O'Connells also developed the Granite Links Golf Course, One Chestnut Place and other properties.

The second company is Dallas-based Safe Harbor Marinas, LLC.

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Ward 2 Councilor Richard Ash, who represents Quincy Point, welcomed the city's purchase of the land.

"This car wash could very well be purchased by a developer," Ash said

Not a developer!!! Kidding aside, while technically not wrong that there's not a lot of green space in the neighborhood, Cleverly Court Park is not exactly near a lot of housing. I guess that's why part of the money is going towards expanding the parking lot. If they do end up taking on that MWRA parcel across the street though, currently just an abandoned slab of pavement, that would be a big win.
 
Noticed the old auto shop at 42 Water St was being demolished. There was a recent sale and mortgage but otherwise I have no clue what's going on there. Anyone know any more?


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Additionally, some early indication that the MBTA communities act zoning overlay that Quincy adopted is having an impact. 384 Centre St (currently the South Shore Car Wash) and 278 Centre St (Mystic Massage Asian Spa) have both been put up for sale in the past week or two. Both were included in the overlay.
 
Broad range of updates and links:

MassDOT is holding a public workshop and site walk today for the Quincy Route 3A/Hancock Street Transportation Improvements Study. Some context on this corridor, for the five year period between 2016-2020 (the most recent data that's been certified by MassDOT on the Impact Portal) only Mass Ave in Cambridge had more pedestrian crashes in the Boston MPO Region. 3a in Quincy has the most HSIP eligible pedestrian crash clusters of any corridor in the region. It has a higher EPDO (a measurement that tries to account for crash severity by converting all crashes into a number of property damage only crashes) than any corridor not already actively being studied or programmed for improvements. The corridor also has two of the state's top 200 crash intersections (Southern Artery & Washington Street, Southern Artery & Broad Street).

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A three floor Italian steakhouse was approved to go into the old masonic temple at 1170 Hancock Street. Neighbors are really upset that their single family only zoned neighborhood 600 feet from the Quincy Center station is being imposed upon so wantonly. It's a gorgeous building, I'm glad the development was able to preserve and repurpose it, even if it means infringing on the sacredness of a single family neighborhood close enough to the T that Joe Milton could hit it with a football from their lawn. :

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Multiple homeowners on Russell Park and Whitney Street complained that their Residential A neighborhood already suffers from too many people parking along the curbs and even in front of their driveways, blocking access and egress to and from their homes. Residential A districts are restricted to single-family homes.

Without a parking plan, many say Russell Park residents will suffer from its proximity to the new steakhouse.

"(Customers will) look to park as close as they can to the facility, and that means on Russell Park," said Robert Cerasoli, a former Massachusetts state representative for the district from 1975 to 1991 who lives on Russell Park. "We're going to be descended upon by these people."

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"I think 1 a.m. is really late," said Randy Hoes, who lives on Russell Park. "I'm not interested in a lot of carousing around and boozing and what not. I would appreciate 11 p.m. at the latest."

"Where are all these people going to park?" Joann Cerasoli, also of Russell Park, asked. "How late are they going to stay?"

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"We are not NIMBY people," Cerasoli said.
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The pot shop replacing a parking lot at 159 Brook road was approved at a May 7th hearing.

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The elevator core has gone up for 73 Liberty Street, where 30 units in 2 floors will sit on top of 56 parking spaces in 2 floors of garage, 0.4 miles from Quincy Adams. The utility work for the site was conducted over the past couple weeks. This is replacing the Southside Tavern, a local dive bar that closed amid flagrant COVID violations and running an illegal gambling operation. I'll snag some photos later this week.

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Framing looks to be done at 66 McGrath Highway, where 42 units on 4 floors will sit atop 2 floors of parking with 65 spaces, 0.35 miles from Quincy Center.

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The Quincy Animal Shelter/Hospital is back on target after unexpected contamination was found, delaying the project and adding about $7 million to the city's costs. We're still on track to have a new animal hospital before we have a people hospital.

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The massive new public safety building is finally starting to go up. It has also seen ballooning costs and delays.


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Sidewalk reconstruction and pavement resurfacing on Quincy Ave is proceeding nicely. This work follows a recently implemented road diet that took the corridor from two lanes in each direction to one lane with a median left turn lane and mediocre unbuffered bike lanes. But, hey, progress.

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A stretch of Sea Street is also getting wider sidewalks and bike lanes. I have no clue why this road isn't being right sized. Two lanes in each direction and chronic speeding. ADT is only around 10,000.
 
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Broad range of updates and links:

MassDOT is holding a public workshop and site walk today for the Quincy Route 3A/Hancock Street Transportation Improvements Study. Some context on this corridor, for the five year period between 2016-2020 (the most recent data that's been certified by MassDOT on the Impact Portal) only Mass Ave in Cambridge had more pedestrian crashes in the Boston MPO Region. 3a in Quincy has the most HSIP eligible pedestrian crash clusters of any corridor in the region. It has a higher EPDO (a measurement that tries to account for crash severity by converting all crashes into a number of property damage only crashes) than any corridor not already actively being studied or programmed for improvements. The corridor also has two of the state's top 200 crash intersections (Southern Artery & Washington Street, Southern Artery & Broad Street).

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A three floor Italian steakhouse was approved to go into the old masonic temple at 1170 Hancock Street. Neighbors are really upset that their single family only zoned neighborhood 600 feet from the Quincy Center station is being imposed upon so wantonly. It's a gorgeous building, I'm glad the development was able to preserve and repurpose it, even if it means infringing on the sacredness of a single family neighborhood close enough to the T that Joe Milton could hit it with a football from their lawn. :


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The pot shop replacing a parking lot at 159 Brook road was approved at a May 7th hearing.

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The elevator core has gone up for 73 Liberty Street, where 30 units in 2 floors will sit on top of 56 parking spaces in 2 floors of garage, 0.4 miles from Quincy Adams. The utility work for the site was conducted over the past couple weeks. This is replacing the Southside Tavern, a local dive bar that closed amid flagrant COVID violations and running an illegal gambling operation. I'll snag some photos later this week.

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Framing looks to be done at 66 McGrath Highway, where 42 units on 4 floors will sit atop 2 floors of parking with 65 spaces, 0.35 miles from Quincy Center.

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The Quincy Animal Shelter/Hospital is back on target after unexpected contamination was found, delaying the project and adding about $7 million to the city's costs. We're still on track to have a new animal hospital before we have a people hospital.

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The massive new public safety building is finally starting to go up. It has also seen ballooning costs and delays.



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Sidewalk reconstruction and pavement resurfacing on Quincy Ave is proceeding nicely. This work follows a recently implemented road diet that took the corridor from two lanes in each direction to one lane with a median left turn lane and mediocre unbuffered bike lanes. But, hey, progress.

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A stretch of Sea Street is also getting wider sidewalks and bike lanes. I have no clue why this road isn't being right sized. Two lanes in each direction and chronic speeding. ADT is only around 10,000.
Thanks! You should go work for the Quincy Sun and turn it into a development reporting and corruption investigation rag
 
Don't laugh but $3300 for a 2b2b that's on the Red Line isn't that bad?
 
Don't laugh but $3300 for a 2b2b that's on the Red Line isn't that bad?
Every day I wake up and say a prayer for my landlord’s wellbeing. $1650 for a 2bd1b on the red line. Duplex. Large yard. Cherry blossoms. Let’s us have our 60lb dog. Have had the same rent since 2018. Just invested in converting our heat from oil to gas and sent us a lengthy, borderline apologetic text about raising the rent to $1700. Blessed be.
 
Brickwork and details are better than most residential new construction that I've seen. I wonder how the first floor and sidewalk will be activated? Retail?
if only. Adjacent grocery store. North Quincy Station, Target, Manet Community Health, several restaurants, banks, Marshall’s, all within walking distance.

Better make the first two floors parking.
 
That part if newport ave doesn't really get a ton of foot traffic so retail wouldn't make a whole sense here.
 

The NIMBYs win! 9 units with over 9 parking spaces down the street from the red line and on *4* bus routes is just too much! The existing auto repair shop is just so much more in touch with the 17th century charm of Adams' birth place! The multi-lane two parcel sprawling dunkin drive through next door is exactly in keeping with Adams' times!
 

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