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Are we doing this in this thread too? Blowing up Boston's transit environment by *getting rid of* North Station is Design a Better Boston fodder.
Building over a railroad tracks is MUCH more expensive than building on open land. That is what held up South Station and the air rights over the Pike. My suggestion of eliminating North Station also eliminates the cost of building over the tracks, and makes the land more valuable .
So North Station surface stays. As for its theoretical future best configuration and how many platforms it requires, I leave that to F-Line and engineers that know a lot more about this than I do. (All of this, BTW, is also why a 4-track tunnel would conceptually be better than a 2-track tunnel ... the latter is inherently brittle even WITH ample short-turn provision on both ends).
Crazy transit pitch: put I-93 through downtown on a diet, have trains run through that tunnel.
TransitMatters has released their commentary on the MBTA EMU RFI responses.
Overall, I think it's a nice little explainer piece that could be helpful for laypeople to demystify the procurement process a bit.
I am glad to see more openness to bi-levels in this document. I don't deny that singles are better in many situations, and that it's easy to overlook the impact of dwell times on the rider user experience while being distracted by the larger capacity -- this does tie back to the general mindshift away from "run bigger/longer trains" toward "run more trains a lot more frequently". I'm glad that TM has brought that consideration to the table. But, compared to the other battles that need to be fought, I do not think single-levels are a hill worth dying on.
I'm still concerned about the implicit vision for the Eastern Route. This new post reiterates the idea that the route would be electrified to Beverly, with short-turn EMU service terminating there, and diesel push-pull services continuing out to Newburyport and Rockport. And the whole goal of this proposal is to bring 15-minute-or-better headways to communities like Beverly, Salem, and Lynn.
Sooo if electric vs diesel weren't a factor, the easy way to achieve that goal would be to run 30-minute headways on each of the branches, which would combine at Beverly to provide 15-minute headways to the south.
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I'm not trying to be negative here. I recognize the benefits of folding Beverly into a string of North Shore gateway cities alongside Lynn (and Salem). And in general, the Eastern Route hits all of the remaining gateway cities in within 128 that lack rapid rail transit: Everett, Chelsea, Lynn, Salem (and potentially Peabody), so there are good reasons to target it for electrification.
But the vision here is unclear and I worry that exposes it to stonewalling.
And -- not for nothing -- but this question is not a trivial one. By TM's own admission, bi-levels would indeed be effective on the Providence/Stoughton, Lowell, and Framingham/Worcester Lines. The only two cases they specify as better fits are the Fairmount... and the Eastern Route. But if the Eastern Route is going to be saddled with 50% diesel push-pulls, then that's going to put a definite limit on the impact that single-levels would have -- you're simply not going to get that near-rapid-transit experience. So, if that means the only place where singles are better is Fairmount, then it's probably better off to just go with the bi-levels for now.
As I say -- I think that single-levels are not the hill worth dying on.
This is second 'official' statement on the Eastern's über priority. This substantive proving can't still be left to "That Be Dragons" imagination. We're being told this is a higher priority than other options that do have their build/ops details nailed down with certitude. Certitude's now required here. Fill in the detail...now.
if both branches of Rockport/newburyport are electrified, and a line to Peabody is electrified splitting off Salem tunnel, will the inner portions of this line ever see less-than-15-minute headways? Assuming the grade crossings in Chelsea/Everett are eliminated, would it be realistic to get 10 or 7.5 min headways at Chelsea station, for example?
^ In short, yes, you could make that kind of thing happen, but that pre-supposes electrifying Rockport and Newburyport all the way out to the boonies, which is explicitly not on the table for the TransitMatters proposal.
I wonder if it has something to do with them not wanting to back or advocate for BLX-Lynn. I got into it with Ari on Twitter about BLX vs Urban Rail. He's very dug into the "UR makes BLX moot" position.
I wonder if it has something to do with them not wanting to back or advocate for BLX-Lynn. I got into it with Ari on Twitter about BLX vs Urban Rail. He's very dug into the "UR makes BLX moot" position.
I wonder if TransitMatters sees coalition-building benefits to a Phase 1B to Beverly. The original proposal for electrification several months ago only ran to Lynn. Operationally, that still would have encountered a number of similar issues to the present proposal -- you still ultimately will have 4 diesel trains per hour going into the Boston. But, given that a Lynn-Chelsea-North Station-Chelsea-Lynn round trip can be completed in 1 hour (with turning time), it would only take four EMU sets to bolster those frequencies from Lynn into actual rapid transit frequencies. So, depending on the size of the EMU order, it may be that much easier to get to "Mission Accomplished" of some sort with Lynn.
But like I mentioned earlier, that whole corridor is very attractive. Maybe there are non-trivial inside-baseball benefits to getting Salem and Beverly onboard too.
I don't know. Purely from an ops perspective (and an armchair ops perspective at that), it would seem to me to make the most sense to electrify Reading first: reroute the Haverhills over the Wildcat, which can then give you 15-minutes-or-better within 128 on the Lowell Line; use EMUs for the short-turn service to Reading, which is an ideal target for EMUs given the shockingly close stop spacing; and redistribute the Reading diesel sets onto the Fitchburg and Eastern Routes to bulk up frequencies, especially on short-turn service within 128. As F-Line mentioned, it is possible to get 15-minute headways between Beverly and Boston on diesel rolling stock, no question about it.
But... compared to the Eastern Route, the Reading Line serves smaller sleepy suburbs which are generally more affluent. Hell, Lynn alone has more residents than Melrose, Wakefield and Reading combined. Justifying to the public and politicians alike why Reading is a better candidate for electrification is a tall order, especially if we are leaning into the heuristic that "electrification = better service in all cases".
TransitMatters tosses cold water on the idea of dual-mode locomotives by comparing the cost of individual locomotives to the cost of electrifying north of Beverly. But if we need to go with an incremental approach to northside electrification, then I think it's not so obvious.
I'm convinced that BLX would just be NIMBY'd, even if you somehow got the EPA to approve of laying new track in a marsh. Not to mention it would be extremely expensive. EMUs is more realistic and would be a nice win.
I'm convinced that BLX would just be NIMBY'd, even if you somehow got the EPA to approve of laying new track in a marsh. Not to mention it would be extremely expensive. EMUs is more realistic and would be a nice win.