So, pre-Covid there was talk of a P&R at Weston with Massport involvement.
Both were in playThat was on the Fitchburg line.
They're Plate F (17 ft. high) clearance routes, and are protected in perpetuity as such by the Boston & Maine asset sale legalese of 1976. To string up 25 kV wire on those routes you'd need approx. 19.5 ft. of underclearance under bridges (couple inches lower potentially in certain highly specific situations of fully tangent track and/or increasingly restricted speed), which presently exists in only a few spots. Most of them can be accommodated by trackbed undercuts (especially on the Lowell Line), so there's some incremental cost chew but nothing killer. The toughest places to modify are the Haverhill Line overpasses in Downtown Lawrence and under I-495 in North Andover; those really can't be undercut at all and will require significant expense. For that reason, the Haverhill Line is probably the last mainline on the system that'll get wired.@F-Line to Dudley -- can you remind me what the complications are for electrification and high frequency service to Lowell and Haverhill (via Wildcat) due to freight traffic and freight clearance routes? I know we've discussed in the past, but my Googling skills are coming up short. (Alternatively, if you want to link me to some documentation instead, am happy to do some reading -- again, my Googling is coming up short.)
*Some* Plate F cars are high-and-wide. Some are just high and do not swing wide (short answer: it's a turning radius thing, not an absolute-width thing).Awesome, thank you. And if memory serves, the Plate F clearance also has impact on platforms, right? Requires them to be mini-highs that have a collapsible edge? (Or can they be full-highs with collapsible edge?) (Assuming no passing track or gauntlet track.)
Is there a full listing (I guess outside of the aforementioned 1976 sale paperwork) of the extent of the clearance route? e.g. the Lowell-Ayer trackage?
Do these agreements require both tracks(when two exist) to meet standards or just one?*Some* Plate F cars are high-and-wide. Some are just high and do not swing wide (short answer: it's a turning radius thing, not an absolute-width thing).
The agreement/feds-enforced clearance routes on the system (listed in the T's own CR design guide) are:
Everything else state-owned not on this list has no special protected clearance preemptions. For example, the Western Route from Medford to Wilmington has physical Plate F (non high-and-wide) clearances right this moment, but the T isn't required to sustain them and could at-will chop the freight clearances down with electrification to Reading if it so chose. It's only on the legally protected routes where Interstate Commerce intervenes. Everything that's freight company-owned (B&A west of Worcester, NH Main on the NH side of the state line, Fitchburg Line west of Fitchburg Station thru Wachusett, the Downeaster) is whatever the line owner says it is...until the owner sells to the state and decides to encode it in legalese (like CSX did when it sold the outer Worcester Line in '08).
- Worcester Line, Framingham Jct. to Westborough Yard -- Plate F/17', high-and-wide (protected per CSX 2008 line sale agreement)
- Worcester Line, Westborough Yard to Worcester Yard (excluding Worcester Union Station turnout) -- Double-stack/20'6", high-and-wide (protected per CSX 2008 line sale agreement)
- Franklin Line, Readville Upper Jct. (incl. Franklin-Fairmount connector) to Walpole Jct. -- Plate F/17', high-and-wide (protected per 1973 Penn Central line sale agreement)
- Framingham Secondary (all) -- Plate F/17', high-and-wide (per mid-2010's CSX line sale agreement, passenger service only on Foxboro spur)
- Northeast Corridor, Mansfield Jct. to East Junction, Attleboro -- Plate F/17', high-and-wide (per 1973 Penn Central line sale agreement, already electrified)
- Middleboro Secondary, Attleboro Jct. to Taunton -- Plate F/17', high-and-wide (per 1982 Conrail line sale agreement, no passenger service)
- NH Mainline (all to state line, Tyngsboro) -- Plate F/17', high-and-wide (per 1976 B&M line sale agreement)
- Western Route, Wilmington Jct. to state line, Haverhill -- Plate F/17', high-and-wide (per 1976 B&M line sale agreement)
- Wildcat Branch, Wilmington (all) -- Plate F/17', high-and-wide (per 1976 B&M line sale agreement)
- Fitchburg Line, Willows Jct., Ayer to Fitchburg -- Autorack/19'6", high-and-wide (per 1976 B&M line sale agreement)
One special example also exists on the T, but out-of-state:
- Northeast Corridor, Boston Switch, Central Falls (by state line) to West Davisville Jct. -- Autorack/19'6", high-and-wide (per 2000's Amtrak+RIDOT+P&W "FRIP Track" agreement). Encompasses the various un-electrified third "FRIP" track segments on the NEC in RI, plus some segments of electrified mainline track spanning the tri-track segments. Created via an economic development grant to enable autorack traffic between Port of Quonset Point and Worcester via P&W. Affects some T ops (south-of-Providence Station thru T.F. Green, where the T uses some un-electrified track at station turnouts) but not others (north-of-Providence Station thru Pawtucket, where the T doesn't have any access to the un-electrified track).
Yes, because none of the lines listed restrict which mainline tracks the freights are allowed to run on. Indemnities for running anywhere as needed are baked into the same legal agreements.Do these agreements require both tracks(when two exist) to meet standards or just one?
So, for instance, if MassDOT takes a single track section and turns it into double track(let's use Ballardvale as an exanple), the new track could not have a high platform?Yes, because none of the lines listed restrict which mainline tracks the freights are allowed to run on. Indemnities for running anywhere as needed are baked into the same legal agreements.
For example...Lawrence Station's full-high platform is on a passenger-specific turnout per the Design Guide. High-and-wides are instructed by dispatcher bulletin order (in this case, the Pan Am dispatcher) to take the passing tracks so the platform doesn't get scraped, but a regular old under-dimension load can/does run there if it needs to.
The one exception to this is the P&W "FRIP track" in Rhode Island, where the NEC was retrofitted in the last 20 years for first-time autorack clearances. The only possible physical passage for a 19.5 ft. tall tri-level autorack car in certain spots is the un-electrified third track, so P&W is hard-bound to its track assignments as it bobs and weaves between Central Falls and Davisville. But that was a retrofit case cast forward by the signed agreement, rather than a grandfathering of current conditions like all the others.
Surface Transportation Board (stb.gov) website would have the CSX ones from the last 20 years. I don't know if the ancient 1970's-80's ones from the Interstate Commerce Commission are archived anywhere online. They might be, since the specifics have been oft-referenced on RR.net for the CSX-Pan Am merger thread.Any idea on where I could find copies of these agreements?
No. In Ballardvale's (and Andover's) case they already have the Mass Architectural Board exemption in-hand to build a mini-high on Track 2 when they get around to it.So, for instance, if MassDOT takes a single track section and turns it into double track(let's use Ballardvale as an exanple), the new track could not have a high platform?
The T trying to get out of building a full-high is not evidence that they couldn'tSurface Transportation Board (stb.gov) website would have the CSX ones from the last 20 years. I don't know if the ancient 1970's-80's ones from the Interstate Commerce Commission are archived anywhere online. They might be, since the specifics have been oft-referenced on RR.net for the CSX-Pan Am merger thread.
The T's Commuter Rail Design Guide where they list all of the affected routes (excluding Rhode Island) is on the T's Engineering Site.
No. In Ballardvale's (and Andover's) case they already have the Mass Architectural Board exemption in-hand to build a mini-high on Track 2 when they get around to it.
The M.A.B. has been particularly loathe to grant exemptions since the state-level accessibility regs were significantly tightened in 2005. They didn't grant a mini-high exemption for Winchester. Something in the legalese...probably related to Pan Am's enthroned dispatching authority across the Freight Main...compelled them to grant exemptions for Ballardvale and Andover. It's already settled business that those two second platforms will be built as mini-highs.The T trying to get out of building a full-high is not evidence that they couldn't