SBWTC /South Boston Waterfront Transportation Center | Seaport

JeffDowntown said:
Why would we ever expect MassPort to have to align its development efforts with city and regional transportation planning? ...

Oh wait -- hum....
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Why would we ever expect massport to operate parks, engage in residential development, manage parking meters, and build downtown parking garages?

i.e. why does it even have development efforts that require alignment?
 
The land was formerly land for Port of Boston. It was all rail yards and warehouses serving ships. It's a state agency not city.
 
CSTH said:
Why would we ever expect massport to operate parks, engage in residential development, manage parking meters, and build downtown parking garages?

i.e. why does it even have development efforts that require alignment?
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Well, MassPort has legitimate development responsibility for some pretty traffic intensive infrastructure. It is not like you can ignore the traffic (and transit) impact of facilities like Logan and the Conley Terminal. Airports and shipping terminals have to link to roads and rail.

The other stuff, like the SBWTC, I don't understand. Just because they own land doesn't mean they should be a general development agency.
 
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TallIsGood said:
Massport isn't in the business of transit. By the way, the answer to your proposition is no, vaccines aren't money losers.
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And Massport shouldn't be in the business of building parking garages that aren't ancillary to Conley or one of the airports.

Most providers (not drug makers - I'm talking about physicians) lose money providing vaccines and make money prescribing opioids. Regardless, I hope you'll understand my point was to consider externalities when examining the economics of an issue.
 
AmericanFolkLegend said:
And Massport shouldn't be in the business of building parking garages that aren't ancillary to Conley or one of the airports.

Most providers (not drug makers - I'm talking about physicians) lose money providing vaccines and make money prescribing opioids. Regardless, I hope you'll understand my point was to consider externalities when examining the economics of an issue.
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FWIW, they're building this parking garage because they have an ironclad on-site parking cap at the airport itself. It is absolutely ancillary to the airport.
 
Equilibria said:
FWIW, they're building this parking garage because they have an ironclad on-site parking cap at the airport itself. It is absolutely ancillary to the airport.
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Iron-clad or not...theyre building this because parking is wicked freaking profitable, especially when you get the land for free...and there a cap on parking everywhere else down town too.
 
New bike lanes? Years of planning, delays, and endless construction.
New housing? Years of planning, delays, and endless construction.
New transit? Years of planning, delays, and endless construction.

New garage? Proposed, designed, built, and open for business in under 1 year.
 
more accurately, years of planning, delays, then pushed through and constructed in 1 year.
This garage has been in the planning docs since the 90s.
 
jass said:
New bike lanes? Years of planning, delays, and endless construction.
New housing? Years of planning, delays, and endless construction.
New transit? Years of planning, delays, and endless construction.

New garage? Proposed, designed, built, and open for business in under 1 year.
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I feel your overall sentiment, but this just isn't true. They've been working on this thing since at least 2014.

Remember that this is a Massport project, and Massport is really good at getting whatever they're working on done. See, for example, all the various improvements at Logan and at the Conley terminal.
 
Lolz to everything.

PS. WS Development is proposing cutting 1,000 parking spaces from its overall plan, down from 6,500 to 5,500 spots.
 
It feels like a time-traveler from the 1980s landed in the Seaport.
 
Please tell me they'll cover this pig with some colorful lipstick screening whether's it's blocked or not. I hate that damn garage at the SE Expressway/Mass Ave interchange, such an awful sight as you enter/exit the city. The city should make it mandatory that new parking garages be somewhat presentable.
 
atlantaden said:
Please tell me they'll cover this pig with some colorful lipstick screening whether's it's blocked or not. I hate that damn garage at the SE Expressway/Mass Ave interchange, such an awful sight as you enter/exit the city. The city should make it mandatory that new parking garages be somewhat presentable.
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This should be the last stand-alone garage in the city period. I can't imagine another spot in the city where this would even be capable, especially at this scale.
 
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