Seaport Neighborhood - Infill and Discussion

Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

I'm starting to feel that IP gets more coverage than the PRU and Hancock is becoming the symbol of Boston's Skyline.

Just looking at the great shots of (Boston02124) driving into the Financial district.
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

How about:

Southie Technology Waterfront Port Innovation District (STWPID)

edit: or

Southie Technology Urban Meetingplace (STUMP)

Southie Technology, Enterprise, Research and Innovation Lab Environment (STERILE)
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

City rides Seaport wave

Wants developers for area near concert pavilion

City planners, hoping to build on the success of Liberty Wharf, will seek bids for an ambitious redevelopment of a waterfront space between the red-hot restaurant complex and the Bank of America Pavilion.

Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino said he sees “great possibilities” to boost the Wharf 8 and Pier 7 sites as a destination on the Southie waterfront.

“Imagination abounds,” Menino told the Herald yesterday. “It’s not going to be any old development.”

City officials envision more restaurants next to Liberty Wharf, where Legal Harborside and Jerry Remy’s have drawn huge crowds of diners. Other ideas tossed out: retail shops, a hotel and a floating restaurant.

The city’s Economic Development and Industrial Corp., which operates the Marine Industrial Park where the site is located, is drawing up a request for proposals from developers.

“That’s an under-utilized piece of land that the city can put in play,” said John Hynes, developer of the massive Seaport Square project at the other end of Northern Avenue. “There’s a lot of momentum down there, and you’ve got to take advantage of it.”

The city freed up its Wharf 8 site in March by evicting a longtime charter boat company after the owner fell behind on rent. The adjacent Pier 7 doesn’t really exist — its old piles are submerged in the harbor — but the city wants a developer to resurrect the structure, which would jut out alongside a dry dock.

Boston made waves with its previous attempt to enliven Wharf 8 when it brought in the now-renamed FleetBoston Pavilion from Fan Pier in 1999.

The move upset supporters of the shrinking fishing industry — but later sparked a “Save the Tent” campaign in favor of the 5,000-seat summer concert venue. Live Nation now has an “indefinite” lease for the spot.

City officials noted that any new development at Wharf 8 would not displace the concert pavilion and developers would have to incorporate a maritime use as required by state coastal zoning rules.

“I think it’s important to keep some land open for marine use, just so we don’t lose it in the city,” said Joe Zanti, owner of Yankee Lobster Co., which rents space at Wharf 8 for its 60-year-old retail and wholesale seafood business. “We’ve already lost a lot of it already.”

Vivien Li, president of the Boston Harbor Association, an advocacy group, said the development could expand on Liberty Wharf’s 12-slip marina, which was frequently backed up as many weekend diners arrived by boat last summer.

“I’ve eaten there many times when there was the equivalent of a traffic jam on the water,” Li said. “I think this (new site) is just going to add to people interested in coming to the South Boston waterfront.”


http://www.bostonherald.com/busines...near_concert_pavilion/srvc=home&position=also
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

City rides Seaport wave

Wants developers for area near concert pavilion

Why not -- a present apparently its just a boating hazzard

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Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

“Imagination abounds,” Menino told the Herald yesterday. “It’s not going to be any old development.”

But that's the defining motif of Seaport development.
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

Pier 7

http://www.historicaerials.com/aeri...3482935284826&lon=-71.0355406235353&year=1955
Looking through the years it appears to have been used for navy ships. Many escort carriers and later what appears to be the USS Midway docked there.

http://www.historicaerials.com/aeri...3482225783494&lon=-71.0345326235352&year=1978
Falling apart.

Lurk -- looks as though it underwent substantial construction adding a number of finger piers during the 1943 through 1944 window when it was a part of the South Boston Annex to the Charlestown Navy Yard
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport


About D Street

During the South Boston Waterfront planning process (1998-2000), a period of 2 years during which there was a moratorium on new construction over 150 feet through the application of an IPOD, BRA planners stated that D Street would be developed as the Seaport's grand pedestrian boulevard, leading from South Boston to the water's edge.

Further down D Street, Massport hired the head of Harvard GSD to tackle its so-called Master Plan. Massport also heralded D Street as the prime pedestrian path from traditional South Boston residents to the water's edge. That planner named the intersection of D Street and Northern the "D Street Delta."

There is no accountability or accurate media reporting whatsoever regarding the gap between public presentations by BRA, BCEC and Massport and what is actually being developed at ground level. None.
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

About D Street

During the South Boston Waterfront planning process (1998-2000), a period of 2 years during which there was a moratorium on new construction over 150 feet through the application of an IPOD, BRA planners stated that D Street would be developed as the Seaport's grand pedestrian boulevard, leading from South Boston to the water's edge.

Further down D Street, Massport hired the head of Harvard GSD to tackle its so-called Master Plan. Massport also heralded D Street as the prime pedestrian path from traditional South Boston residents to the water's edge. That planner named the intersection of D Street and Northern the "D Street Delta."

There is no accountability or accurate media reporting whatsoever regarding the gap between public presentations by BRA, BCEC and Massport and what is actually being developed at ground level. None.

Sicil -- D Street is definitely still a work in progress -- If you start at the other end of D Street at Seaport Blvd:

1) Massport has delivered a farily pleasant pedestrian realm with a park between west and east--bound lanes

2) The middle portion between Congress and Summer is complicated by all of the transportation infrastructure although:
a) the new Waterside complex will soon sit there
b) it can be much improved by just sticking the Silver Line under D St and building on the prime airights where today the Silver Line comes to the surface

3) Summer St. corner should be a major pedestrian hotspot with the Westin and

4) I would expect that there will be a lot more development along D past Fargo St. as the BCEC expansion proceeds

https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.3447...j2Zngc9xfgE7-fkiGzw&cbp=12,41.4,,0,-2.12&z=18
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

Is there a thread for this "underused" parcel? There must not have been a lot of interest worldwide and the Fallon Company stepped forward.

http://news.bostonherald.com/business/real_estate/view.bg?articleid=1061145629

Sicil -- take a step back with Google Maps -- you will see that the entire greater SPID is amply supplied with under-utilized parcels

In other words -- the process of rebuilding of this key sector of the entire city is just begining. There is a whole lot more to come in the next 20+ years -- both the very big getting bigger -- aks the BCEC abd its hotels and also lots of smaller sites hopefully to turn into residences, neighborhood shops and restuaurants and smaller office spaces

D Street is a prime example --- with a couple of high profile sites near to the water and the BCEC and a whole lot of currently empty lots and warehouses heading back toward Dorchester Ave.
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

That "underused" parcel recently handed to Fallon is the only one I'm aware of not already in the hands of Massport, Seaport Square, Fan Pier (Fallon) or Pier 4.

You mentioned there are many more such parcels. Where?

If past is prologue, I'd personally welcome an influx of new architects and developers tackling Seaport projects.
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

Is there a thread for this "underused" parcel? There must not have been a lot of interest worldwide and the Fallon Company stepped forward.

http://news.bostonherald.com/business/real_estate/view.bg?articleid=1061145629

Damn. With this area as hot as it is, you would hope a developer with some chops might have stepped in to nab this spot and maybe help cover up the disgusting Park Lane tenements.

Unfortunately I'll dip into someone else bag of tricks and really speculate on some cronyism here. Fallon? More commercial property for those who can't be taken care of at Fan Pier? Is his list of potential tenants so long at Fan Pier? Is this why no other buildings are going up?

I'm assuming this is the lot just past the BOAP on Northern Ave. It appears that the I-90 tunnel runs right under a portion of the site, so I'm assuming maybe even greater height limitation might be imposed here. Maybe smaller developments would be good, but between this and the decrepit looking pier beyond this looks like a better place to expand residential than office. Maybe small mixed use developments here could work, but no big box office space.

On another note. What's up with the two parking lots between Manulife and this parcel? Any plans for those? They look ready to build.
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

Also, is the drydock behind BoAP still in use?
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

Also, is the drydock behind BoAP still in use?

No.

They removed the gantry cranes a little ways back as I recall. I believe the parcel it's a part of was also up for sale for development?
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

So The BRA can just designate developers without putting anything out for bids or an RFP? So the City is now completely abandoning even the facade of transparency.

On another note. What's up with the two parking lots between Manulife and this parcel? Any plans for those? They look ready to build.

Those are both Massport parking lots. I only know because I've parked there before. Unless Massport starts getting lease offers that beat their annual parking profits (which must be high - they don't even have a attendant, it's all electronic), I assume it will remain parking.
 
Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport

An interesting article about urban planning and innovation. If its thesis is true, it suggests the superblock-dominated way the "Innovation District" is being built is not a particularly good way to foster innovation.

As the author (Richard Florida, who can often come off as a BS artist) suggests, "Jane Jacobs-esque" streets of small, diverse buildings and uses are more successful for generating "innovation."

That sounds right to me. Too bad Boss Menino & Co. dropped the ball on that one in the "Innovation District."

For Creative Cities, the Sky Has Its Limit

It's not enough to build tall if people aren't thrown together to interact—just look at Shanghai vs. New York

By Richard Florida

Ours is the century of the city. For the first time in history, more than half of the people in the world, 3.3 billion of us, live in cities. By 2050, according to the best projections, urbanites will account for as much as 70% of the global population.

Over the next 50 years we will spend trillions of dollars on city building. The question is: How should we build? For many economists, urbanists and developers, the answer is simple: We should build up. But the answer is more complex than that.

Researchers at the Santa Fe Institute have been able to demonstrate that bigger, denser cities literally speed up the metabolism of daily life. Larger beasts may have slower metabolisms in the animal kingdom, but the opposite occurs in cities, which get faster as they grow. Doubling a city's population, the Santa Fe researchers found, more than doubles its creative and economic output, a phenomenon known as "superlinear scaling."

Still, density is only part of the solution. In the hyper-crowded skyscraper districts of Shanghai, densities can approach 125,000 people per square mile. Giant buildings often function as vertical suburbs, muting the spontaneous encounters that provide cities with so much of their social, intellectual and commercial energy. People live their lives indoors in such places, wearing paths between their offices and the food courts, always seeing the same people.

In terms of innovation and creative impetus, Shanghai pales in comparison to New York, London, Paris and Milan, not to mention high-tech hubs like Silicon Valley, the Bay Area, Seattle, Boston, Austin and North Carolina's research triangle, all of which have much lower densities.

It turns out that what matters most for a city's metabolism—and, ultimately, for its economic growth—isn't density itself but how much people mix with each other. And there isn't just one formula for that. It can happen in the pedestrian-oriented sidewalk culture of New York and London but also—to the chagrin of many urbanists—in the car-dependent sprawl of a suburban nerdistan like Silicon Valley. That region, as Jonah Lehrer has pointed out, manages to emulate the functions of bigger, denser cities by encouraging the clustering of talent and enterprise and fostering a high level of information-sharing.

In fact, there are two types of density, according to a recent study by Peter Gordon of the University of Southern California and Sanford Ikeda of the State University of New York, Purchase. "Crude" density is achieved by districts packed with taller and taller buildings but doesn't, on its own, generate innovation or economic development

By contrast, what the authors call "Jacobs density" sparks street-level interaction and maximizes the "potential informal contact of the average person in a given public space at any given time." It makes networking and informal encounters more likely and also creates a demand for local products and diversity—not just of populations and ethnic groups but of tastes and preferences.

The authors dub it "Jacobs density" in tribute to Jane Jacobs, the renowned urbanist and author of "The Death and Life of Great American Cities." She famously said, "In the absence of a pedestrian scale, density can be big trouble."

Look at New York City. Its hubs of innovation aren't the great skyscraper districts that house established corporate and financial headquarters, media empires and wealthy people (an increasing number of whom are part-time residents who hail from the ranks of the global super-rich). The city's recent high-tech boom—500 start-ups in the last half decade, among them Kickstarter and Tumblr—is anchored in mid-rise, mixed-use neighborhoods like the Flatiron District, Midtown South, Chelsea and TriBeCa.

Google's New York office, second in size only to its headquarters in Silicon Valley, is in the old Port Authority terminal building across from the Chelsea Market, for which it paid $1.8 billion in 2010. These neighborhoods are filled with the sort of old buildings that, in Jacobs's famous phrase, new ideas "must use."

None of this is to say that New York should be preserved in amber. The move to increase density in Midtown East, for example, raising height restrictions to as high as 80 stories, will generate much-needed development in an area that's set up for it.

But balance is key. A great city needs a mix of neighborhoods and districts of varied heights and densities. And great care must be taken not to muck up those critical areas that spur true innovation and creativity. "Densities," Jacobs cautioned, "can get too high if they reach a point at which, for any reason, they begin to repress diversity instead of to stimulate it." It's a crucial lesson to absorb as our world grows ever more urban.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...7551133804551396.html?mod=WSJ_hp_EditorsPicks
 

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