Seaport Square (Formerly McCourt Seaport Parcels)

davem

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So basically the second part is Silver Line phase III, right? The tunnel under Essex and into the portal that connects to South Station?

In theory I like the idea of switching to rail but does that improve the situation any is what I'm curious about. Would it have a dedicated right of way to the Design Center or is it in traffic ala the E line?
Dude, go read the the damn thread linked to above and stop talking this one off the rails.
 

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Dude, go read the the damn thread linked to above and stop talking this one off the rails.
No offense, but these transportation threads are filled with more yakking and absurdity than you'd see at a Trump rally. Its basically for people to play with themselves to ridiculous and unrealistic schemes that either revolve around unlimited money or someone possessing a magic wand. From what I've seen they'll be having snowball fights in hell sooner than some of these conversions to rail will happen.
 

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No offense, but these transportation threads are filled with more yakking and absurdity than you'd see at a Trump rally. Its basically for people to play with themselves to ridiculous and unrealistic schemes that either revolve around unlimited money or someone possessing a magic wand. From what I've seen they'll be having snowball fights in hell sooner than some of these conversions to rail will happen.
"I don't like those threads so I'm just going to keep clogging up a parcel-development thread with transportation talk."
 

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once some greenery is added and they wrap up these last few developments its going to start coming together nicely.
 

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The busway can be dual mode with track embedded in the floor, supporting both trolleys and buses. Buses for Logan and Chelsea; Trolleys to Design Center (maybe eventually out into Southie if they ever get over their transit aversion.)

Thought has always been to connect the South Station end of the busway back to the Green Line at Boylston in some fashion. Big expense regardless the routing, but a doable, important connection. Then you have Red, Orange and other Green Lines connected out to the Seaport.
For a while I'd been assuming that the South Station transitway to Boylston connection would be a prerequisite for converting SL2 to Green Line, but now I'm wondering if having the SL2 train run isolated from the rest of the Green Line, just as the Mattapan Line is currently isolated from the Green Line, might make sense. Ideally the SL2 train would at least use the same type of rolling stock as the Green Line so that it would be prepared for the possibily of a track connection eventually being constructed.
 

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So where do the human beings go in this tableau?

I see everything built for the automobile and buildings. Those sidewalks (if you squint you can perhaps see them) ensure a lack of humanoid life for the foreseeable future.

How completely shortsighted. Boston brought this on itself.
 

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So where do the human beings go in this tableau?

I see everything built for the automobile and buildings. Those sidewalks (if you squint you can perhaps see them) ensure a lack of humanoid life for the foreseeable future.

How completely shortsighted. Boston brought this on itself.
Not really a fair analysis. The entire left side of the picture is under construction and the right side actually has a pretty wide (looks about 12 foot to me) sidewalk. It's probably empty due to the time of day.

Give it another 12 months and this will be a totally different picture.
 

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"I don't like those threads so I'm just going to keep clogging up a parcel-development thread with transportation talk."
I'm not the one who brought it up. However if you think my questions about how realistic some of these ideas are seem too harsh, wait until you try to ask the feds for some money for these schemes.

Regarding Seaport Blvd/Ave/Whatever, it looks fine. Summer needs some work, but for Seaport stop whining already. Wide sidewalks on bridge lead to either a walk along the harbor and channel or down the street where there's plenty of activity either from workers or restaurant patrons. WTC is a little bit of dead space but even that is getting revamped. I'd be more concerned about the stretch after Fort Point to the convention Center
 

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So where do the human beings go in this tableau?

I see everything built for the automobile and buildings. Those sidewalks (if you squint you can perhaps see them) ensure a lack of humanoid life for the foreseeable future.

How completely shortsighted. Boston brought this on itself.
You would do well to actually go into the area before speaking about the sidewalks. There is actually plenty of sidewalk space on both sides save for the areas currently (and temporarily fenced off) fenced off as (gasp!) the sidewalk space is getting rebuilt. The area also saw ample foot traffic during the day today.

Don't let that picture fool you, pedestrian space is plentiful.
 

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The bickering and bellyaching about the Seaport is over the top.

re; how i learned to stop worrying and love the Bomb (Menino).
 

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^^i like it too, but i'd prefer to transplant it to across the street from the Pierce.
 

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Those have to be a couple weeks old because theres a bunch of trees going in at ground level now. Either way amazing pictures.
 

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