South Boston Infill and Small Developments

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First St is a mess, and ANYONE willing to develope ANYTHING should be welcomed with open arms IMO.

And what's with this neighborhood group? The faulty street lights and non-existent sideways are acceptable, but a lack of 3 and 4br units isn't? C'mon people.
 
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Existing, crappy infrastructure = "Awah naybahood!"

Anything new = "Cawprut profittee-uhs"

I think it is really that simple for some people.
 
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How dare you fake that southie accent!
 
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3 Dorchester Str. (First+First Townhouses) West. Another two townhouses have been added to this side of the progect. Total build out of the project footprint completed.
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3 Dorchester Str. (First+First Townhouses) East. A lot of open house action in Southie yesterday. Several couples checking out this place.

3 Dorchester Street 4/29 East by snagshead67, on Flickr
 
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Does that section tell me each of these townhomes has a full on garage on the ground level and a walk out patio from the 4th floor master bed? Pretty swank.

The surf board ought to come in handy.....
 
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Does that section tell me each of these townhomes has a full on garage on the ground level and a walk out patio from the 4th floor master bed? Pretty swank.

I believe each unit has a two-car garage. Pricing is around 600K. These townhouses are exactly what this area, (SPID border) and Boston in general needs. I personally love the designs as well. This project shows what is possible and is another reason why I am backing the NIMBYs with their opposition (just not their specific reasons) to 2. H street which is right next to these townhouses.

It's easy to say that NIMBYs (especially from Southie) are in the wrong, but when looking at the big picture this new neighborhood area has HUGE potential.. and the hideous 2. H St. monster does not belong in it.
 
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I also love that these townhouses surround and hide that stale beige and white apartment building in this block. That building SCREAMS lack of effort.
 
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I also love that these townhouses surround and hide that stale beige and white apartment building in this block. That building SCREAMS lack of effort.

That's Phase I, and was originally developed by Pappas to appease the BRA's affordable hosing requirement when they were developing the McAllen building. It's scheduled to having the siding replaced at some point. Probably after the townhouses (Phases II & III) are complete.
 
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Ah, so that building is 100% affordable?

I don't believe 100%, but not sure how many units were affordable.

The 1brs originally listed for $240k and the 2Brs were $320 back in 2005. There are 2 3brs as well. I went to the open house, that's how I know this.
 
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Is it as cheap looking inside as out?

Pretty much. Flat eggshell walls, wall to wall carpet, wood veneer kitchen cabinets. Pretty basic/generic. What I liked was the amazing view the west side had of both Back Bay and the Financial Dist. For the money, had to be best 'bang for your buck' views of the city. Although that's probably gone now with the addition of the townhouses.
 
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Re: the Pappas's "Plywood Palace", i.e., their affordable housing building. From a Boston Herald column by Peter Gelzinis that is no longer available online. (some of this appears garbled for some reason)

With every tractor-trailer and cement mixer that rumbles by, residents of the Reserve Channel Condominiums feel their new homes begin to shake.

This graceless 26-unit tenement stands virtually naked amid the freight terminals and loading docks that form what's left of Southie's industrial Lower End.

If not for the ... crudely spray-painted across a dingy green tarp fastened to an even dingier chain-link fence, mail would never find this place.

Around Southie, 404 W. First Street has come to be known as "Pappas's Plywood Palace,” a nod to that local family of condo titans and real estate sharks: James Pappas and his sons, Tim, Jay and Andrew, who threw up the building to satisfy their city's "affordable housing obligation”.

Truth is, 404 W. First Street is living proof that condo hustling – much like apartheid – can be segregated between the haves and have-nots. The haves pay ridiculous prices for the "luxury” of granite counters, hardwood floors, exposed brick and stainless steel Sub-Zeros.

Meanwhile, those who exist in the have-not world of so-called affordable housing get white appliances, plastic counters and stain-resistant carpeting.

Theoretically, the folks who now reside at the Pappas Plywood Palace should have been living a quarter-mile up the road, inside the Pappas Properties' $53 million mecca of luxury lofts that now fill the restored Court Square Press Building at the Broadway T stop.

But instead of devoting a mandatory 13 percent of the 130 lofts inside Court Square for those in the $230,000 price range (as opposed to the $450,000 to $1 million crowd), Pappas & sons convinced the BRA and local pols to let them build their affordable units off-site – on a commercial lot in the middle of a truck route.

By excluding the affordable "have-nots”, Pappas got the maximum price for each and every one of his Court Square lofts.

"With that building down there (at 404 W. First),” said Peter Woodford, executive director of the South Boston Neighborhood Development Corp., (Pappas) has done more damage to the namesake of affordable housing.

More people walked away from those units as soon as they saw the quality of the workmanship. Compare that building to any other affordable development in this town and the difference jumps out at you.”

Back in April, the Reserve Channel condo dwellers set out a list of their grievances and complaints to Pappas management. Curiously, their three-page letter got its first and only response on Wednesday – the same day I began making phone calls.

Granted, 404 W. First Street is meant for the peasant "affordable” class, but should the roof really be leaking after a year and a half? Should walls be cracking? Should the "landscape" be a stunning blend of weeds and gravel? For $240,000 or so, plus condo fees and taxes, don't people who work as nurses, firefighters and teachers have a right to expect some lighting around the property? Maybe a halfway decent sign that announces what this building in the middle of nowhere is?

In his return letter, Tim Pappas appears to be concerned only with unpaid condo fees. He does, however, concede the obvious: Unlike the luxury brick fortress that is Court Square Press, Tim says 404 W. First Street is a "wood frame and located on a heavy truck route. Although shaking occurs, structural integrity of the building is not an issue.”

Isn't that what they said about that tunnel down the street?

Tim Pappas made films in college. His brother Andrew started art history in Paris. You'd think that a pair of developers with such refined sensibilities would maybe stick a few shrubs around their plywood palace. If for no other reason than to promote the illusion that they care how the "other half" lives.
 
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Does anyone know what they're doing above/inside the old Broadway Red Line tunnel?? I saw it was being worked on, today ... and inside!
 
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"Meanwhile, those who exist in the have-not world of so-called affordable housing get white appliances, plastic counters and stain-resistant carpeting."

Growing up, this is what the haves had. Why is it now said with a sneer?

If you want granite, buy granite. If you want stainless, buy stainless. It dones not justify a 80% increase in cost to buy there.
 
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The most bizarre thing to me about the 'plywood palace' (404 W 1st) is that the footprint of the building completely ignores the shape of the parcel - a rectangle stuck into a (now mostly empty) triangle. Very SimCity-esque.
 
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^ They used the footprint of the warehouse they demo'ed. Simply re poured the foundation.
 
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I have white appliances... #feelspoor
 
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Does anyone know what they're doing above/inside the old Broadway Red Line tunnel?? I saw it was being worked on, today ... and inside!

Pretty sure it's being repurposed as a training site for first responders.
 
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"Meanwhile, those who exist in the have-not world of so-called affordable housing get white appliances, plastic counters and stain-resistant carpeting."

Those things all sound really nice to me ... My extremely inconvenient, cramped kitchen has no counters (table is used for food prep), an old stove that used to be white but is now largely brown from grease spatters, and linoleum and wood floors.

Sure, I'm a renter and a cheapskate, but I certainly don't feel very bad for people on the basis of having "white appliances," plastic counters and stain-resistant carpeting (and isn't that better than carpeting that stains easily?).
 

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