The Benjamin & VIA (née One Seaport Square) | Parcels B-C@Seaport Sq. | Seaport

Re: One Seaport Square | Parcels B-C@Seaport Sq. | Seaport

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Re: One Seaport Square | Parcels B-C@Seaport Sq. | Seaport

What's with the blank wall?
 
Re: One Seaport Square | Parcels B-C@Seaport Sq. | Seaport

^ correct.
 
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Remember the back side of this will have another tower built next to it so ground floor is really that matters for that side street.
 
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stick n move said:
Remember the back side of this will have another tower built next to it so ground floor is really that matters for that side street.
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What's the tower going next door? Parcel D?
 
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Yea thats parcel D. It appears the ground floor will be an extension of one seaport square, although no official renders have been released yet.


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Beeline -- none of the component parts are particularly inspiring or exiting -- but as a whole the streetwall is filling in quite well

You can stand on the peak of the Moakley Bridge and see that Seaport Boulevard is beginning to have a unique look. It's shaping-up to be the Seaport/ Innovation/ GE district's equivalent of Boylston St. in the BackBay

And its all the more reason to restore a street grid binding Boston across the Fort Point Channel -- aka we need a complete Northern Avenue
 
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whighlander said:
Beeline -- none of the component parts are particularly inspiring or exiting -- but as a whole the streetwall is filling in quite well

You can stand on the peak of the Moakley Bridge and see that Seaport Boulevard is beginning to have a unique look. It's shaping-up to be the Seaport/ Innovation/ GE district's equivalent of Boylston St. in the BackBay

And its all the more reason to restore a street grid binding Boston across the Fort Point Channel -- aka we need a complete Northern Avenue
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What complete Northern Avenue? There's only 3 blocks of it left in the Seaport. What color is the sky in a world where Northern is still a cross-Seaport thoroughfare? It's gone. It's gone no matter how many times this wistful fantasy is repeated.

I think they goofed bigtime by not taking Thomson Pl. through to square up with Fan Pier Blvd. or take Boston Wharf Rd. through. And double-goofed by salting both those side streets over at the same time. But that's a north-south grid problem of Sleeper St. being too narrow, the rump-end Northern intersection with Seaport being poorly designed, and northing spanning the midsection. The Courthouse area isn't hard to get to from the downtown side of the Channel...but it's a royal pain in the ass to get to from inside the Seaport. It might as well be in another neighborhood from Channel Center and Congress St. near A.

At least attack the correct problem. Let's see them do something actually useful like bringing Boston Wharf Rd. through that plaza squared up with the ICA driveway, and making operational improvements to Sleeper St. Any traffic engineer will weight those north-south touches as a more meaningful fix for the real traffic grid, and rate the bridge as 8 figures of pure empty calories if it's done instead of addressing the north-south grid. The traffic justification for it is all manufactured crisis, false equivalences, and aesthetic intangibles. GE didn't ask for that precious bridge; City Hall tripped all over it self offering it as eye candy. There's nothing you can do with a bridge except bang-a-right on or off Northern @ Atlantic. It's a half-mile detour around the block to get on Atlantic southbound or 93 north, completely useless for half the places people exiting the Seaport on Northern need to go. And nobody's coming up from the south is going to wait for the nortbound Atlantic queue to clear when the right-turn onto Seaport is faster. Yet there's this pervasive belief that the way to fix the mangled grid between the GE and Courthouse ends of the Seaport is sending traffic back into downtown on Atlantic and going extra distance from the existing load-bearing bridges to cross the Channel again on an inferior-placed and superfluous bridge. But it'll look sooo nice!

In what world is anybody's car GPS going to recommend that as a fastest route, let alone a seasoned Boston driver's own instincts. Pure...wistful...fantasy from folks who wouldn't be caught dead driving on the very same streets.
 
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F-Line to Dudley said:
I think they goofed bigtime by not taking Thomson Pl. through to square up with Fan Pier Blvd.
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It will, the curb cuts have already been there for years. It is starting to take shape now.
 
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F-Line to Dudley said:
I think they goofed bigtime by not taking Thomson Pl. through to square up with Fan Pier Blvd. or take Boston Wharf Rd. through. And double-goofed by salting both those side streets over at the same time. But that's a north-south grid problem of Sleeper St. being too narrow, the rump-end Northern intersection with Seaport being poorly designed, and northing spanning the midsection. The Courthouse area isn't hard to get to from the downtown side of the Channel...but it's a royal pain in the ass to get to from inside the Seaport. It might as well be in another neighborhood from Channel Center and Congress St. near A.
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I agree with your assessment of the Northern Ave Bridge not curing the traffic problem that is entirely due to 93 on ramps being jammed, but wanted clarify for all that most of the 'goofs' you mention just havent been constructed yet.

Thompson/Fan Pier Blvd is planned to be a four way signalized intersection.
There will be another N/S street near Boston Wharf Rd. This will be one way from Seaport. Its not aligned with BW because it is algined with Marina Park Dr. MP couldnt be placed far enough east to line up with Boston Wharf due to the Harbor. District Hall wasnt located by mistake without thinking of completing grids, the grid simply couldnt extend further north due to the harbor.
There will be a N/S Street across from/between 101 Seaport and 121 Seaport. This will be one way towards Seaport.
and the 'rump' as you call it, was already reconstructed (partially) 4 months ago. Northern Ave is straightened and there is a new intersection of Northern at E Service Rd (which is called Pier 4 Blvd north of Seaport).
 
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