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Primark opening Sept 10.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business...wn-crossing/3l0r5IwjpI43OMJRJIIjnJ/story.html


Quite a few photos.

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I have about zero interest in shopping at Primark (unhip 30 y.o.), but what their windows and street front are doing for Washington Street is FANTASTIC.
 
I have about zero interest in shopping at Primark (unhip 30 y.o.), but what their windows and street front are doing for Washington Street is FANTASTIC.

Yep. They haven't been active since 2006 when Filene's closed. The windows liven the whole block once again.
 
I have about zero interest in shopping at Primark (unhip 30 y.o.), but what their windows and street front are doing for Washington Street is FANTASTIC.

Uground -- I hear Primark is all tuned into Filene's Retro [circa 1950's or so] there are supposed to be large murals somewhere

I certainly hope that the Basement is represented

Now if we could just bring back Santa's Village and Jordan's Blueberry Muffins

Ah Nostalgia! -- what was that Marx*1 said Nostalgia is the opiate of the Fashionistas

*1 that would be Groucho
 
This type grocery store might be perfect for the Seaport!

I have never understood the dearth of inexpensive smaller-format grocery stores in Boston. When I lived in London I did most of my grocery shopping at my local 10k-ish sf Tesco Metro, and while I am far from the world's most sophisticated chef it was a rare occurrence when I couldn't find what I was looking for there. Those stores have produce, meat, bakery, frozen, and prepared food sections as well as all of your basic packaged foods and toiletries, they just stock only one or two different SKUs of everything instead of the dozens that US grocery stores carry. I remember staring in awe at the (seemingly endless) mayonnaise aisle in the Porter Square Shaws when I got home.

There are 195 of these smaller-format (average size of 11k sf) Tesco Metros in the UK (probably mostly in London), plus hundreds more smaller-format urban Sainsbury's, Marks & Spencer Simply Food, Waitrose, and other stores. The places in Boston most similar to these seem to lack any selection of non-packaged food and/or have prices way above your typical proper grocery store.

Do American consumers really demand forty-seven different types of toothpaste or is this just a question of density? Do you see more stores like this in other dense American cities such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco? I know DC is pretty much the same as Boston.
 
Re: muffins, Santa, and DTX

No details on which stores might be closed.

Macy's has eight stores in Massachusetts, I think I read today.

(Maybe terminating their relationship with Donald Trump caused their slump.)

Macy's plans to shut as many as 40 more stores in early 2016, picking up the pace of its closings.

The chain said it has yet to identify the stores it will shutter. The stores account for 1% of total sales, even though they make up more than 5% of Macy's locations.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/09/news/companies/macys-store-closings/
 
I have never understood the dearth of inexpensive smaller-format grocery stores in Boston. When I lived in London I did most of my grocery shopping at my local 10k-ish sf Tesco Metro, and while I am far from the world's most sophisticated chef it was a rare occurrence when I couldn't find what I was looking for there. Those stores have produce, meat, bakery, frozen, and prepared food sections as well as all of your basic packaged foods and toiletries, they just stock only one or two different SKUs of everything instead of the dozens that US grocery stores carry. I remember staring in awe at the (seemingly endless) mayonnaise aisle in the Porter Square Shaws when I got home.

There are 195 of these smaller-format (average size of 11k sf) Tesco Metros in the UK (probably mostly in London), plus hundreds more smaller-format urban Sainsbury's, Marks & Spencer Simply Food, Waitrose, and other stores. The places in Boston most similar to these seem to lack any selection of non-packaged food and/or have prices way above your typical proper grocery store.

Do American consumers really demand forty-seven different types of toothpaste or is this just a question of density? Do you see more stores like this in other dense American cities such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco? I know DC is pretty much the same as Boston.

This is a really good observation. We always prefer the small Brookline Star Market on Beacon Street over anything else. It's tiny. None of of our friends understand our preference - but to us, it's a big bonus that if you realize in the cookie aisle that you forgot toilet paper you don't need to double-back three miles.
 
Allow me to provide one detail: the chances of the Downtown Crossing Macy's being closed are exactly zero. Unless the laws of capitalism are summarily revoked on or about January 9, 2017, by newly-elected President Bernard "Feel the Bern" Sanders. In which case all bets are off.

Yeah, if any store closes in MA because of this, I'd guess it will be Silver City Galleria. They've already lost JCP and the mall is chronically more than half empty, as it has been rendered irrelevant by its competitors Derby Street, South Shore Plaza & Providence Place.

No chance in hell Macy*s DTX will close.

For reference, here is Macy*s Annual Report: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9Mjg2MDc5fENoaWxkSUQ9LTF8VHlwZT0z&t=1

Btw, MA has 21 Macy*s locations, not counting Macy*s Home. There is 1 Bloomingdales (which is a Macy*s brand). See page 49-50.
 
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No chance in hell Macy*s DTX will close.

I would add, with Primark's opening tomorrow across the street, it would seem reasonable to presume that Macy's DTX is set to enjoy its best quarter ever. It would also seem reasonable to presume that the next couple quarters for Macy's DTX would be extremely profitable within whatever context these things are measured, before the store levels off to a new higher plateau of sales volume.

But would the Primark "ripple effect" extend as far as to the nearby cluster of H&M, GAP, TJ Maxx, Marshalls, DSW? I'm guessing yes for GAP as it's also across the street. The others... ?
 
I would add, with Primark's opening tomorrow across the street, it would seem reasonable to presume that Macy's DTX is set to enjoy its best quarter ever. It would also seem reasonable to presume that the next couple quarters for Macy's DTX would be extremely profitable within whatever context these things are measured, before the store levels off to a new higher plateau of sales volume.
I think I recall reading on here in an older thread that during peak season, the men's dept volume at the DTX location often rivals Herald Square.

But would the Primark "ripple effect" extend as far as to the nearby cluster of H&M, GAP, TJ Maxx, Marshalls, DSW? I'm guessing yes for GAP as it's also across the street. The others... ?
Yeah. Honestly, I work in DTX and Washington is already packed all day long with steady foot traffic from shoppers. Primark opening is only going to bolster that draw. It's clear that DTX is Boston's next shopping destination.
 
I have never understood the dearth of inexpensive smaller-format grocery stores in Boston. When I lived in London I did most of my grocery shopping at my local 10k-ish sf Tesco Metro, and while I am far from the world's most sophisticated chef it was a rare occurrence when I couldn't find what I was looking for there. Those stores have produce, meat, bakery, frozen, and prepared food sections as well as all of your basic packaged foods and toiletries, they just stock only one or two different SKUs of everything instead of the dozens that US grocery stores carry. I remember staring in awe at the (seemingly endless) mayonnaise aisle in the Porter Square Shaws when I got home.

There are 195 of these smaller-format (average size of 11k sf) Tesco Metros in the UK (probably mostly in London), plus hundreds more smaller-format urban Sainsbury's, Marks & Spencer Simply Food, Waitrose, and other stores. The places in Boston most similar to these seem to lack any selection of non-packaged food and/or have prices way above your typical proper grocery store.

Do American consumers really demand forty-seven different types of toothpaste or is this just a question of density? Do you see more stores like this in other dense American cities such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco? I know DC is pretty much the same as Boston.

I don't equate bigger with better, but I also wouldn't equate smaller with better either. As you say, this small format store in Boston (and I would say the States generally) has more in common with a convenience store than it does a full-service supermarket. Small format stores here tend to have very rudimentary produce sections, poor bakery goods, and pretty horrible meat selections. They are not the more-comprehensive-variety-of-goods-yet-fewer-brands-of-each markets you mention in the UK nor the Franprix or Monoprix you get in Paris. I think the Symphony Whole Food is really the only market here that is comparable.
 
I think we're seeing American grocers start to realize the benefits of smaller format markets in urban areas. For a while, it seemed like everyone was thinking go big or go home. But Whole Foods and Trader Joes have been building smaller urban locations for a while, and now we've got the smallish Roche Bros in DTX, plus their smaller format "Brothers" markets and other like that. I'm all for it. Thirty kinds of Thousand Island Dressing seems excessive.
 
There's a little line outside of Primark this morning on the Summer St. Side. There's temporary metal crowd fencing on the Washington Street side, but no line. I'm wondering if they're funneling people in on Summer and out on Washington? Anyone been in yet? I didn't have time.
 
There's a little line outside of Primark this morning on the Summer St. Side. There's temporary metal crowd fencing on the Washington Street side, but no line. I'm wondering if they're funneling people in on Summer and out on Washington? Anyone been in yet? I didn't have time.

Grand opening at 11am. Last night was a soft-opening party.
 
I was in Roche Bros for lunch at about 11:45. Any great line of shoppers that might have filled up those barricaded crowd control chutes had long since dissipated into Primack by then. That whole barricade set-up seems to have been kind of silly (albeit harmless) overkill.

There were some picketers there protesting that it should have been a union shop. I didn't ask which union they were with. One of those water-under-the-bridge protests for which I have a hard time working up any sort of reaction one way or the other.

I didn't have time to properly go into Primark, but I took a quick peek in: seemed like they had a decent number of shoppers in there. With the prices they're advertising I assume they're going to do somewhere between just fine or great, unless the merchandise is complete crap (and that's not what I've heard from Irish friends familiar with them in the home country).

It's a great addition to the neighborhood. I'm probably two full decades older than the primary target audience, but I like the tone and color schemes of the street-visible displays. Brings a good vibe to the street. Keeps up the momentum in the inevitable gap between Roche Bros' opening and whatever opens in the ground floor of the tower.
 

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