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The accelerated speed of the video clips are ridiculous, best slow the speed down via settings. Anyway, it does show impressive progress with the ballpark and some internal shots of the concourse, building, etc. Their web site has lots of recent photos.

 
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TL;DR

- Ballpark is now the most expensive minor league construction ever; other outliers in other cities had much more seating
- WooSox org covering cost overruns of $17.3 million but apparently the city is requesting the loan for WooSox
- Overruns are contributed to pandemic
- Some adjustments to the proposed contract between city and WooSox in terms of lease and ticket surcharge
 

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TL;DR

- Ballpark is now the most expensive minor league construction ever; other outliers in other cities had much more seating
- WooSox org covering cost overruns of $17.3 million but apparently the city is requesting the loan for WooSox
- Overruns are contributed to pandemic
- Some adjustments to the proposed contract between city and WooSox in terms of lease and ticket surcharge
So let me get this straight...build a new ballpark with a smaller capacity? I get the luxury seats and event space is better/exist than Pawtucket, but come on at least build a facility that has a bigger capacity than McCoy Stadium! 12k or more makes more sense as we here in 2021 and tickets will be the hottest ticket in town.
 

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12k or more makes more sense as we here in 2021 and tickets will be the hottest ticket in town.
The average attendance of minor league baseball is just north of 4000. The national attendance trend is slowly declining. See graph. I suspect that Worcester will buck the trend because of the novelty of having a new team and ballpark (pandemic not withstanding) for a year or two but eventually will settle around 5K per game. The Pawsox had the 3rd lowest attendance in minor league baseball.

reference: https://www.baseballamerica.com/sto...-increase-in-2019-reversing-last-year-s-drop/
 

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The Pawsox had the 3rd lowest attendance in minor league baseball.
No, you are reading the chart wrong. They are near the bottom of the list in that article, but that is a ranking based on average attendance change over prior year. They performed poorly on that metric, dropping by 728 fans per game. But keep in mind, that's subsequent to learning that the team was giving the finger to Pawtucket. If the list were ranked by average attendance, even in the off year profiled, they would be near the top of the middle third on that list. I predict they will easily move in to the top third grouping when Polar Park opens.
 

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No, you are reading the chart wrong. They are near the bottom of the list in that article, but that is a ranking based on average attendance change over prior year. They performed poorly on that metric, dropping by 728 fans per game. But keep in mind, that's subsequent to learning that the team was giving the finger to Pawtucket. If the list were ranked by average attendance, even in the off year profiled, they would be near the top of the middle third on that list. I predict they will easily move in to the top third grouping when Polar Park opens.
yeah ... I stand corrected. But the point I was trying to make is that average attendance is will below 10K (Pawsox at ~5K) so building a stadium to hold 12K or more makes little sense. As mentioned, I would expect Worcester to do quite well the first couple of seasons with potential sellouts but would bet attendance will drop well below the seating capacity when the novelty fades.
 

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They’ve walled off most up-close views of the interior field. Second and third pics show the foundation of the 5 story building near the field that’s on hold. Last view is from across Madison Street where new development has been delayed by about a year.


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Just a quick aside: the traffic peanut installed in Kelley Sq is a royal clusterf*ck. It took a fine game of 'cross yourself and go' and turned it into an urban version of the Concord Rotary. It's gonna be vehicular bedlam when baseball and hockey games host on the same night. That said, this once-sad-and-dodgy neighborhood is looking better by the day!
 

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Just a quick aside: the traffic peanut installed in Kelley Sq is a royal clusterf*ck. It took a fine game of 'cross yourself and go' and turned it into an urban version of the Concord Rotary. It's gonna be vehicular bedlam when baseball and hockey games host on the same night. That said, this once-sad-and-dodgy neighborhood is looking better by the day!
so what's worse, the old cluster-f or the new one?
 

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