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yeah, i am mostly on skyscrapercity, and wirednewyork. Those two places usually have enough new news for me to get my fix.
 
Been a remarkably slow day on the forum. Is it one of those Monday holidays I never have off and therefore don't ever know about until people start telling me how great their cookouts were?
 
Whatever happened to those!? They disappeared more quickly than maps with East Germany on them.
 
One way of looking at it is to say the build quality was legendary.
 
Watch the movie "Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist" to see one again.
 
Ah, the Yugo. A car with communist workmanship built to a FIAT design out of Soviet steel. (Should have sent Tatra instead. Now THAT was a commiewagen to own!)
 
Boycott Maine.

No skiing at Sugarloaf this winter.
No Christmas shopping in the Old Port.
No summering at Sabago Lake.

Screw 'em.
 
statler said:
Boycott Maine.

No skiing at Sugarloaf this winter.
No Christmas shopping in the Old Port.
No summering at Sabago Lake.

Screw 'em.
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Majority tyranny is alive and well in this country.

I am down for the boycott.
 
So many confused, frightened, hateful people. Sad day.
 
I don't think boycotting Maine will help. Americans have never voted to support gay marriage in any state.

Thankfully, in Mass we had Republican Governor (Bill Weld) who gave America gay marriage through his libertarian-minded judges. The law was upheld thanks to Deval Patrick and his promise of jobs for votes to legislators who were scared to vote for it. These two men gave us gay marriage - not some enlightened Massachusetts electorate.

Even here in Mass, if put to a vote, gay marriage would have failed according to polling.

It is sad about Maine, but I don't think they should be boycotted over this. No more so than any other state. In fact, if this is a subject you care about you should boycott America, since our current President, just like our last president, is so opposed to gay marriage and gay rights.

Hard to believe that Dick Cheney has a more progessive view on gay rights than The Great Barrack Obama.
 
^^It is so far his greatest failing as president and something he deserves every bit of shit you can heap on him.

In fact I think those who oppose the president should make it their number one issue.

And I agree with you, if we put it to a popular vote it would probably fail here as well. And I think a popular vote on interracial marriage would be a lot closer than people think. This is why putting civil right issues up to a popular vote is a bad idea. Never give the majority the power to strip away rights from the minority.

Edit: BTW, before you hurt yourself patting yourself on the back because of the R next to Weld's name, remember that his was (is?) a very moderate Republican, which a very few a far between in today's Republic party. He would dismissed quickly as a RINO if he dared run for national office today. In fact he was even in own day, IIRC, Jesse Helms despised the man and blocked some sort of Federal appointment he was up for.
 
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palindrome said:
Majority tyranny is alive and well in this country.

I am down for the boycott.
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Re: trip to Maine next week, I will:

Buy all my ammo here;
Leave all my lead behind Downeast.
Eayup.
 
Statler, we agree yet again. Bill Weld was as close to a true Libertarian politician as we'll see around here. He was not a Republican or a Democrat. He was booed off the stage at the RNC, and you're correct about Republicans blocking his nomination to be Mexican ambassador because he was for the decriminalization of pot - and Mexico is the heart of the drug war.

He's my political hero, and people like Mitt Romney and Deval Patrick are complete failures when held against his standard.

There is some hope in Charlie Baker, Weld's right-hand man. If this is an issue that matters, it's worth pointing out that Charlie's brother is gay and happily married. Charlie supports gay rights without flinching, hesitating or mincing his words. When you put his words on the subject directly against Obama's, you'd think Obama was Pat Robertson.

I wish gay people and gay supporters wouldn't always march so lock-step with the Democratic party. It's getting them nowhere!
 
Another R with a surprisingly good record on gay rights? St. Reagan. Of course he sort of lost a lot of good will with his handling of the AIDS crisis...

Lesson? Republicans make good governors in liberal states?

Also, didn't Deval rescind the order to enforce that absurd 1920's law? So he is at least one step ahead of Mitt.
 
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