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Wasn't the Russian consulate there before this construction began?
Wasn't the Russian consulate there before this construction began?
Atlantic Wharf (née Russia Wharf) | Atlantic Ave | Waterfront
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There was a Russian consulate in Boston, recently?
I thought the name came from the wharf being the center of Boston-based trade with Czarist Russia.
Guess if they change the name thats a clear sign that no Russian sovereign wealth money is helping finance the construction loan. Maybe Putin was approached and set 'Nyet!', and this is payback.
There was a Russian consulate in Boston, recently?
I thought the name came from the wharf being the center of Boston-based trade with Czarist Russia.
Guess if they change the name thats a clear sign that no Russian sovereign wealth money is helping finance the construction loan. Maybe Putin was approached and set 'Nyet!', and this is payback.
Re: Russia Wharf
Why couldn't they (whoever "They" are) name it, "the Such and Such at Russia Wharf"? It's a mouthful, but like Filene's, the site is a historical one for the city and that history should be acknowledged regardless of the desire to plug a corporation's name. I guess that would be too simple.
Why couldn't they (whoever "They" are) name it, "the Such and Such at Russia Wharf"? It's a mouthful, but like Filene's, the site is a historical one for the city and that history should be acknowledged regardless of the desire to plug a corporation's name. I guess that would be too simple.
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OK, I guess it wasn't a consulate, but rather the Russian-American Cultural Center that was until recently on Russia Wharf.
OK, I guess it wasn't a consulate, but rather the Russian-American Cultural Center that was until recently on Russia Wharf.
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Pix taken March 7. Looks as if the basement of the original building was Boston harbor mud.
Pix taken March 7. Looks as if the basement of the original building was Boston harbor mud.
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Jeepers. Really, what's the point of saving this?
Jeepers. Really, what's the point of saving this?
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I agree--what's the point? The current preservationist movement seems strictly concerned with facades and little else. Pretty absurd.
I bet it would've been cheaper to knock these down completely and rebuild an exact copy of the facades on the new building.
I didnt know this was going to a facadectomy. I was initially under the impression that at least some portion of the actual original buildings were going to be kept.
I agree--what's the point? The current preservationist movement seems strictly concerned with facades and little else. Pretty absurd.
I bet it would've been cheaper to knock these down completely and rebuild an exact copy of the facades on the new building.
I didnt know this was going to a facadectomy. I was initially under the impression that at least some portion of the actual original buildings were going to be kept.
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Once again I point y'all to Summer St.
Today materials simply do not have the same quality of what they are preserving. In fact they would most likely use panels. It would look cheap and tacky even to the untrained eye.
When this is completed, only the people who have seen it in this state will even know it was facadectomy. And most won't even care.
That said, I wish they could have preserved more of the original building. But this is better than tearing the whole thing done.
Once again I point y'all to Summer St.
Today materials simply do not have the same quality of what they are preserving. In fact they would most likely use panels. It would look cheap and tacky even to the untrained eye.
When this is completed, only the people who have seen it in this state will even know it was facadectomy. And most won't even care.
That said, I wish they could have preserved more of the original building. But this is better than tearing the whole thing done.
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I, too, thought they'd be saving more of the structure, but I've rarely objected to facadectomies. It would cost a fortune to relay the brick and who needs more concrete panels, esp. on the street level? It's going to be interesting to see how the developer makes the street level come alive as an important entry way into the channel and seaport districts. I know I am going to relish the warm and human-scaled brick facades as much as I do 100 Arch St. and the old Kennedy's building, and the Peabody and Sterns stock exchange on State St.
I, too, thought they'd be saving more of the structure, but I've rarely objected to facadectomies. It would cost a fortune to relay the brick and who needs more concrete panels, esp. on the street level? It's going to be interesting to see how the developer makes the street level come alive as an important entry way into the channel and seaport districts. I know I am going to relish the warm and human-scaled brick facades as much as I do 100 Arch St. and the old Kennedy's building, and the Peabody and Sterns stock exchange on State St.
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Will the ship model gallery return when this project is finished?
Will the ship model gallery return when this project is finished?
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They can't save the inside if they are putting in an underground parking garage, which they are, where the building itself basically rested on mud. The front building, facing Atlantic Ave, is being kept intact. Thats where the ship model store was.
This is a Ritz Carlton hotel in DC. The front entrance in the photo was once a dump pit for a city incinerator. The incinerator chimney was preserved. And they didn't need to build a cage to support the brick facade, because being a dump pit, the building was already cored out.
In DC, where there are more facademectomis being done than in Boston, I've seen only one new building where the design and craftsmanship, i.e., masonry, successfully and rather faithfully captured they type of midsize commercial building built pre-WWII. Ironically perhaps, the developer was Boston Properties.
Odds are that in DC these days, SCL would probably receive a facadectomy with the cornice line possibly moved up three or four stories, or mirrored at the new roofline.
They can't save the inside if they are putting in an underground parking garage, which they are, where the building itself basically rested on mud. The front building, facing Atlantic Ave, is being kept intact. Thats where the ship model store was.
This is a Ritz Carlton hotel in DC. The front entrance in the photo was once a dump pit for a city incinerator. The incinerator chimney was preserved. And they didn't need to build a cage to support the brick facade, because being a dump pit, the building was already cored out.
In DC, where there are more facademectomis being done than in Boston, I've seen only one new building where the design and craftsmanship, i.e., masonry, successfully and rather faithfully captured they type of midsize commercial building built pre-WWII. Ironically perhaps, the developer was Boston Properties.
Odds are that in DC these days, SCL would probably receive a facadectomy with the cornice line possibly moved up three or four stories, or mirrored at the new roofline.
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I'm trying to understand why DC found that fa?ade and chimney worthy of preservation. It's hard to reconcile that with a luxury hotel.
I'm trying to understand why DC found that fa?ade and chimney worthy of preservation. It's hard to reconcile that with a luxury hotel.