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By the way, if there isn't a Chipotle in the Seaport, there should be. First, the architecture of those restaurants is superior to most of the Seaport
Ah, the power of chains to build brand loyalty. By the time word-of-mouth got around on a comparable mom-and-pop, it would be out of business.

Second, they are always packed with business people, and would be a huge financial success.
Actually, nobody goes to Chipotle anymore; it's too crowded. ;)
 
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By the way, if there isn't a Chipotle in the Seaport, there should be. First, the architecture of those restaurants is superior to most of the Seaport. Second, they are always packed with business people, and would be a huge financial success.

oddly enough there are no Chipotles downtown. The only ones in Boston are in the Fenway and on the Boston line in Cleveland Circle. A Chipotle in the financial district or downtown crossing would make a killing with the lunch crowd. I am amazed that I continue to see lines out the door at BOLOCCO. Chipotle, in my opinion, while a chain, offers a superior product to BOLOCCO.
 
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oddly enough there are no Chipotles downtown. The only ones in Boston are in the Fenway and on the Boston line in Cleveland Circle. A Chipotle in the financial district or downtown crossing would make a killing with the lunch crowd. I am amazed that I continue to see lines out the door at BOLOCCO. Chipotle, in my opinion, while a chain, offers a superior product to BOLOCCO.

As ablarc said, brand loyalty.

I can't believe people in Cambridge go to Qdoba over Felipe's or Anna's, but they got used to it in whatever hellhole they originally came from, and can't be weaned away.
 
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I fell in love with Chipotle in DC. When Qdoba began sprouting up here, I went with trepidation. Alas, it blew Chipotle out of the water. Qdoba is more fresh and more imaginative, more vegetarian-friendly, and the queso sauce (please nobody burst my bubble and tell me there's chicken stock in it or something like that - I mean it, if you look it up, keep it to yourself because I don't want to know) is out of this world.

Qdoba and Chipotle are both entirely different animals than Felipe's/Boca's/Anna's. Not better or worse, just very very different.

BOLOCO is a weird San Franciso-inspired middle ground, but it works. I think their concept is well executed.

Has anyone been to Dorado's in JFK Crossing?
 
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It saddens me that you Boston folks consider Chipotle and Qdoba decent food.

It's like 1991 and saying Taco Bell is awesome mexican food.

Anna's isnt much better, but Im alright with Felipes. Actually, I endorse Felipe's

It's a shame Baja Fresh failed in Massachusetts (they targeted suburbs), as they have the best quality food.

La verdad taqueria outside Fenway stadium is probably the best mexican in town, although it's pricey for what they give you. It's surprising, because the location indicates that it would suck.
 
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Twenty-ten and I'll still say Taco Bell is awesome.
 
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I'm sick of burritos, full stop. I'd much rather have a place serving Indian kati rolls, Vietnamese/Cambodian sandwiches, crepes, bistro sandwiches, hummus, doner kebabs, Eastern European dumplings, Chinese steamed buns, some freaking Scandinavian food, Moroccan food, Turkish food ... or just some plain old Jewish-deli sandwiches.

It feels like there's a world of food we're missing out on because of ... burritos. Hoping someone thinks of a fast-food model that serves decent lunch food other than burritos... the burrito market is saturated.
 
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In Boston/Cambridge, yes. It's not so much a problem in other cities. No idea why we're supersaturated with burritos here.
 
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^Baja Fresh rocked, and the problem was that I only ever had it when I went up to Beverly or something.

Chipotle is for sure better than Qdoba. I have a right to speak on the matter since I live in what may be the greatest concentration of chain restaurants in America.

I have a problem with people who hate on chains just because they are chains. They can still be awesome, and most of them started out as independents anyhow. They should be judged on their individual merits and detriments, and not be handicapped simply because they are run by a national corporation. I'd argue that most chains have food superior to the mom 'n' pop establishments (especially when you consider they all get the food from the same food service companies,) and that there are times when they have better atmosphere.

And whoever tries to compare Chitpotle to Taco Bell is just silly.
 
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Kennedy, the problem with chains in general (besides the fact that supporting them helps reduce the variety of cuisine everywhere) is quality control. Once you have a billion locations, it's pretty easy for many of them not to live up to the quality of the original - i.e., when that restaurant was an independent mom-and-pop. I agree that many mom and pops also suck, but there are still enough good ones to offer plenty of alternatives to any chain.
 
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Chicagoans, for instance, say that our Pizzeria Unos don't live up to the reputation of the legendary original in their city.
 
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I'm sick of burritos, full stop. I'd much rather have a place serving Indian kati rolls, Vietnamese/Cambodian sandwiches, crepes, bistro sandwiches, hummus, doner kebabs, Eastern European dumplings, Chinese steamed buns, some freaking Scandinavian food, Moroccan food, Turkish food ... or just some plain old Jewish-deli sandwiches.

It feels like there's a world of food we're missing out on because of ... burritos. Hoping someone thinks of a fast-food model that serves decent lunch food other than burritos... the burrito market is saturated.

The problem for me is that every "mexican" restaurant in town is a burrito place...and burritos aren't really mexican. I was in Mexico city last month and made a note to look out for burritos. I saw them once (named burrita) at the bottom of a menu in a street place. Mexicans in a rush will eat a torta instead.

I agree with the rest though. Im all for the kind of street vendors found all over NYC selling all types of food. Why don't we have them here, are they banned? Are there ridiculous restrictions?
 
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I'm sick of burritos, full stop. I'd much rather have a place serving Indian kati rolls, Vietnamese/Cambodian sandwiches, crepes, bistro sandwiches, hummus, doner kebabs, Eastern European dumplings, Chinese steamed buns, some freaking Scandinavian food, Moroccan food, Turkish food ... or just some plain old Jewish-deli sandwiches.

It feels like there's a world of food we're missing out on because of ... burritos. Hoping someone thinks of a fast-food model that serves decent lunch food other than burritos... the burrito market is saturated.

Can't you find most of that in Allston?

Check out this good news, via universalhub: Late-Night Kebabs Come to Allston

Of course I assume you're talking about Downtown/Back Bay. In which case, I can only echo jass' wonderment at the lack of street vendor variety (and overall presence).
 
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Allston is cool, but it would be nice to spread the culinary wealth to more (and more accessible) neighborhoods.
 
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It feels like there's a world of food we're missing out on because of ... burritos. Hoping someone thinks of a fast-food model that serves decent lunch food other than burritos...
Why does anyone think that Mexican is good food? Seems like unimaginative crap to me.

I've never had a Mexican meal I thought was any good, and my liberal tendencies have caused me to give it far too many chances to tickle the palate. No sale.

No sale at all. This is low grade, unimaginative food.
 
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Why does anyone think that Mexican is good food? Seems like unimaginative crap to me.

I've never had a Mexican meal I thought was any good, and my liberal tendencies have caused me to give it far too many chances to tickle the palate. No sale.

No sale at all. This is low grade, unimaginative food.

What exactly have you tried? If you're limiting yourself to new england, then you won't get real mexican food.
 
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Point being, Allston aside, I feel like I'm being hemmed in by walls of burritos -- sour cream, rice, beans and guacamole for an extra 75 cents -- closing in on me from all corners. What gives?
 
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When was this thread last on topic? Let's see ... Atlantic Wharf ... oh, boring topic.
 
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Chicagoans, for instance, say that our Pizzeria Unos don't live up to the reputation of the legendary original in their city.

Maybe they are right....


Speaking of chains, how about a ShakeShack on the common??? Any news on that.

I think it might be time to split this thread!
 
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[assuming all this grub talk gets moved anyway]

Apparently Indian food is coming to 185 Devonshire.

Which is cool (though it will surely operate on FiDi time)
 

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