Boston Harbor Flood Protection Projects

[Shepard]

What's Mystic Pier?

 

[CSTH]

What's Mystic Pier?

Its the thing the looks like a lobster claw hanging off the edge of charlestown. under the tobin.

Its mostly used as a giant parking lot for imported cars after they get offloaded from ships and before they get trucked to dealerships.

 

[stellarfun]

The Charles River dam ought to be able to protect that portal from sea level rise. And even if climate change does end up causing heavier rain storms, it seems that we also have efforts being made to help the Muddy River drain more effectively.

The dams are outflanked by the Mystic River.

See slides beginning on pdf p 24

http://www.mass.gov/anf/docs/dcam/ccva-presentation.pdf

 

[Joel N. Weber II]

Is the map on page 25 telling us that, in addition to upgrading the dams and the areas in their immediate vicinity, we should also raise the west part of Bunker Hill St in Charlestown and the Sullivan Sq intersection by 5 or 10 feet (possibly including getting rid of the Sullivan underpass) to prevent Mystic water from flooding the Charles upstream of the Charles River dam?

They don't really seem to be saying much about solutions to urban flooding. Is fatter storm drain pipes the answer?

 

[Joel N. Weber II]

I guess if you're going to raise Sullivan Sq and Bunker Hill St [edit: protecting the Mystic] also probably need a seawall at the eastern edge of Assembly Sq.

Alternatively, maybe a replacement for the Amelia Earhart Dam should be built somewhere kinda sorta near the Medford St / Belmont St intersection in Charlestown.

And the Island End River to Malden River flood path also needs to be addressed to keep seawater out of the Mystic upstream of the dam.

 

[Jahvon09]

New York is either considering, or has begun installing some of THESE in its subway tunnels after it was kicked in the butt by Hurricane Sandy in 2012.


https://media.timeout.com/images/101223561/660/370/image.jpg

 

[stellarfun]

Long article. Covers numerous projects. Basically what developers are doing in anticipation of sea level rise.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business...-sea-change/JhhHB5QIjQuCFBVCR5P20H/story.html

^^^^State Street, Fort Point. After-the-fact temporary barrier against high water.

 

[Arlington]

From Boston.com story on Friday's expected Nor'easter, looks like we're in for more Seaport/Aquarium flooding late on Friday:

 

[jass]

Can we have an official "you idiots are spending how much building in a flood zone???" thread for fun pictures of things flooding?

 

[stellarfun]

The current prediction for Boston harbor is for a tide 15.1-15.6 feet above mean low low water at midnight March 3, with two foot waves. These excursions will produce moderate to major flooding.

 

[Downburst]

The current prediction for Boston harbor is for a tide 15.1-15.6 feet above mean low low water at midnight March 3, with two foot waves. These excursions will produce moderate to major flooding.

These would be record tides for Boston Harbor.

 

[reverend_paco]

Saw these going up at Atlantic Wharf a few hours ago:

 

[stellarfun]

This photograph of Salem Maritime National Historic Site was taken at the mid-day high tide on March 2. (The photographer was on the roof of the Custom House.) The tide is probably about six inches away from flooding Derby Street, which runs in front of the Custom House. Barely visible are waves crashing on Derby Wharf itself, the small lighthouse (still operational) is at the end of Derby Wharf.

Recently, National Grid probably spent tens of millions to re-route 60+ year old, high voltage lines that ran from the power plant to the grid, and which ran under Derby St. The high voltage lines were re-routed to new underground conduits on higher ground. Salt water and high voltage lines are not compatible.

Live wire fell in Wenham during the storm, ignited natural gas line

 

[tysmith95]

Am I the only one who is impressed with NSTAR with regards to power outages. They seem to do a bang up job on all of the communities that they service. National Grid on the other hand leaves much to be desired.

 

[vanshnookenraggen]

#Fakenews

 

[DBM]

Am I the only one who is impressed with NSTAR with regards to power outages.

Yes, because NSTAR officially hasn't existed now for several years. You are impressed with a dissolved entity, a non-being--which, existentially speaking, I don't think is even possible, per Heidegger et al. You may want to consider seeking help from a mental-health professional... before the abyss stares back at you.

 

[shmessy]

Yes, because NSTAR officially hasn't existed now for several years. You are impressed with a dissolved entity, a non-being--which, existentially speaking, I don't think is even possible, per Heidegger et al. You may want to consider seeking help from a mental-health professional... before the abyss stares back at you.

Hey, don't knock necrophilia 'til you tried it!

 

[stellarfun]

In raw numbers, the storms on Jan. 4 and March 2 produced the first- and third-highest sea levels recorded since 1825, the documents indicate. Factoring in rising seas and sinking land levels, the storms rank slightly lower — as the fourth- and eighth-highest storm tides, researchers said.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...cent-storms/keamav0oVsck3j78F0JOmO/story.html

Harvard and MIT recently found old records of tides at Boston dating back to 1825.

 

[Sprngh2o]

Am I the only one who is impressed with NSTAR with regards to power outages. They seem to do a bang up job on all of the communities that they service. National Grid on the other hand leaves much to be desired.

yes,yes you are.

 

[Arlington]

UMass Boston says spend $2b on neighborhood preparations, don't count on a Winthrop-Hull barrier ($11b) or Airport-Seaport ($8b)

http://www.wbur.org/news/2018/05/30/boston-harbor-barrier-flooding-umass-study

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...h-cost-effort/BdEjVDgNNucNM8gP1tlZ4O/amp.html