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Re: New Brighton Landing | New Balance Complex
Does it not, or are you saying that it should but you don't know?
Does it not, or are you saying that it should but you don't know?
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Judging from advanced renderings I saw of this place a couple months ago (and the article a few posts earlier), there will be a connection to the Everett Street Bridge.
Judging from advanced renderings I saw of this place a couple months ago (and the article a few posts earlier), there will be a connection to the Everett Street Bridge.
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http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/allston_brighton/2013/05/state_oks_plan_for_boston_land.html
DUMB! We're seriously going to give this station a name that gives not one single indication where it is? The complex might be known as "Boston Landing" in planning documents, but everyone will call it the "New Balance" complex just like we've been doing here. I never understood the "Landing" part of this anyway. Landing what? There's no dock there... is the implication that the new HQ building looks like a spacecraft which has just landed?
I understand that the LLC is paying for it, and that they want "Boston" because it has more cachet than "Brighton," but then call the station "Brighton/Boston Landing." This is the only Brighton stop on the entire T fixed-guideway system, and they're giving it a new-agey faux-geographical name that won't even be recognizable as the corporation it's named for? Ridiculous. "New Balance Station" would have been better.
http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/allston_brighton/2013/05/state_oks_plan_for_boston_land.html
DUMB! We're seriously going to give this station a name that gives not one single indication where it is? The complex might be known as "Boston Landing" in planning documents, but everyone will call it the "New Balance" complex just like we've been doing here. I never understood the "Landing" part of this anyway. Landing what? There's no dock there... is the implication that the new HQ building looks like a spacecraft which has just landed?
I understand that the LLC is paying for it, and that they want "Boston" because it has more cachet than "Brighton," but then call the station "Brighton/Boston Landing." This is the only Brighton stop on the entire T fixed-guideway system, and they're giving it a new-agey faux-geographical name that won't even be recognizable as the corporation it's named for? Ridiculous. "New Balance Station" would have been better.
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It's supremely retarded in that New Balance themselves have been billing it as "Brighton Landing" and "New Brighton Landing" for years now. I was hoping for a while it was going to turn out to be a typo, but I guess not...
It's supremely retarded in that New Balance themselves have been billing it as "Brighton Landing" and "New Brighton Landing" for years now. I was hoping for a while it was going to turn out to be a typo, but I guess not...
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Re: New Brighton Landing | New Balance Complex
I'd actually be fine with calling it New Balance Station, given how they're paying for it and all.
I'd actually be fine with calling it New Balance Station, given how they're paying for it and all.
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JFK/UMass - Let's you know where you are based on the landmarks
Hynes Convention Center - Yup right there
Northeastern - At Northeastern of all places and right next to
Museum of Fine Arts
Aquarium
Prudential
Wonderland....not so good of a comparison anymore
Harvard.... MIT....
No reason not to put a business, corporate, institutional name on these things.
Not sure why landing would only have to do with boats. You arrive on a boat or plane at a landing or by landing, why not arrive on a train at a landing. You walk down stairs to a landing.
While we're at it, you park on a driveway yet drive on a parkway. I mean... what's up with that? (Could use either Cliff or Seinfeld's nasally delivery if you like.)
JFK/UMass - Let's you know where you are based on the landmarks
Hynes Convention Center - Yup right there
Northeastern - At Northeastern of all places and right next to
Museum of Fine Arts
Aquarium
Prudential
Wonderland....not so good of a comparison anymore
Harvard.... MIT....
No reason not to put a business, corporate, institutional name on these things.
Not sure why landing would only have to do with boats. You arrive on a boat or plane at a landing or by landing, why not arrive on a train at a landing. You walk down stairs to a landing.
While we're at it, you park on a driveway yet drive on a parkway. I mean... what's up with that? (Could use either Cliff or Seinfeld's nasally delivery if you like.)
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Sure. All of those are good names. They tell you where you are. Likewise, calling this station "New Balance/WGBH" would have been fine by me, since most people taking the Worcester Line would know exactly where the station is located. Hell, even calling it "Stop-and-Shop" would have been better.
Now, if the "Boston Landing" development was built already, and we knew that it had become a landmark for those traveling along the Pike, and traffic reports were reporting on backups thanks to an accident "about a half-mile west of Boston Landing" (as they do with the New Balance HQ), then this would be fine. No one, however, will call this development by the name of its LLC. At least Prudential had the good sense to call their complex by the name on the building. Would it have been OK to name Prudential "Boston Landing" because that's what the company wanted? Hey! The name makes just as much sense there!
As to the "Landing" thing, the dictionary definition is here http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/landing. I grant that it does not specify boats, but that's the only context in which I've heard the term used. Weymouth Landing station, for instance, serves the Fore River area and marinas in Weymouth.
My point is simple. "Boston Landing" does nothing for wayfinding and gives not one inkling of place. I believe that the Commonwealth (or Feds, I forget which) has standards for highway signs which would prevent exits from being labeled in a way which would confuse drivers - the same should apply here. The company funding the station should be able to pick a name, sure. It just has to be one that will tell even lifelong Boston residents where they heck they're getting off the train.
Sure. All of those are good names. They tell you where you are. Likewise, calling this station "New Balance/WGBH" would have been fine by me, since most people taking the Worcester Line would know exactly where the station is located. Hell, even calling it "Stop-and-Shop" would have been better.
Now, if the "Boston Landing" development was built already, and we knew that it had become a landmark for those traveling along the Pike, and traffic reports were reporting on backups thanks to an accident "about a half-mile west of Boston Landing" (as they do with the New Balance HQ), then this would be fine. No one, however, will call this development by the name of its LLC. At least Prudential had the good sense to call their complex by the name on the building. Would it have been OK to name Prudential "Boston Landing" because that's what the company wanted? Hey! The name makes just as much sense there!
As to the "Landing" thing, the dictionary definition is here http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/landing. I grant that it does not specify boats, but that's the only context in which I've heard the term used. Weymouth Landing station, for instance, serves the Fore River area and marinas in Weymouth.
My point is simple. "Boston Landing" does nothing for wayfinding and gives not one inkling of place. I believe that the Commonwealth (or Feds, I forget which) has standards for highway signs which would prevent exits from being labeled in a way which would confuse drivers - the same should apply here. The company funding the station should be able to pick a name, sure. It just has to be one that will tell even lifelong Boston residents where they heck they're getting off the train.
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They should just go whole hog on the confusion factor and name it "Washington Street."
They should just go whole hog on the confusion factor and name it "Washington Street."
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But in truth, Weymouth Landing station is named for the part of town now known as Weymouth Landing. As in the Landing to locals. Originally because of the marina's, but now more of a landmark name based on a neighborhood.
But in truth, Weymouth Landing station is named for the part of town now known as Weymouth Landing. As in the Landing to locals. Originally because of the marina's, but now more of a landmark name based on a neighborhood.
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lmfao!
I could care less about the "landing" portion in Brighton Landing. At least it says "Hey, you're in Brighton, dude!" Boston Landing is absurdly stupid.
lmfao!
I could care less about the "landing" portion in Brighton Landing. At least it says "Hey, you're in Brighton, dude!" Boston Landing is absurdly stupid.
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If you were coming from Worcester and had never been to Boston before, would it be confusing whether this is the stop you should get off at for "Boston?" If you were from out of town and visiting a friend in Brighton and he told you to "take the Commuter Rail from South Station", would you have any idea that this is where you should get off?
If you were coming from Worcester and had never been to Boston before, would it be confusing whether this is the stop you should get off at for "Boston?" If you were from out of town and visiting a friend in Brighton and he told you to "take the Commuter Rail from South Station", would you have any idea that this is where you should get off?
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Or better yet, take out Landing from the name. Boston Station.
Or better yet, take out Landing from the name. Boston Station.
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Re: New Brighton Landing | New Balance Complex
"New Balance at Harvard"
That'll finally get the people to say "I give up."
"New Balance at Harvard"
That'll finally get the people to say "I give up."
Re: New Brighton Landing | New Balance Complex
Dont forget new Balance Field at BU
Just call it whatever it was called 100 years ago.
Or to avoid ALL confusion, give it a new name.
"Tito Square". 5 years from now, people will refer to the entire area as Tito Square.
Dont forget new Balance Field at BU
Just call it whatever it was called 100 years ago.
Or to avoid ALL confusion, give it a new name.
"Tito Square". 5 years from now, people will refer to the entire area as Tito Square.
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I'm pretty sure some of you think most people are mentally retarded. Nobody is going to confuse Boston Landing with Back Bay or South Station.
FFS, this argument is a steaming pile of shit. Your friend would be an example of a shitty person if he didn't tell you what stop to get off because without any context of location to begin with you're screwed between South Station and Newtonville; "Back Bay" and "Yawkee" are equally poor names since they don't tell you lick about where you are unless you live in the city already or are familiar with the cities geography, history or sports... fortunately MOST people have a clue.
I'm pretty sure some of you think most people are mentally retarded. Nobody is going to confuse Boston Landing with Back Bay or South Station.
FFS, this argument is a steaming pile of shit. Your friend would be an example of a shitty person if he didn't tell you what stop to get off because without any context of location to begin with you're screwed between South Station and Newtonville; "Back Bay" and "Yawkee" are equally poor names since they don't tell you lick about where you are unless you live in the city already or are familiar with the cities geography, history or sports... fortunately MOST people have a clue.