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So when will all the hipsters pull a JP and start complaining that NB is making the neighborhood less shitty? Or at least when will Harvard/BU sue NB for buying up land that they wanted?
 
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I hope they don't modernize the place too much, if at all. One of the reasons I would go there is for the atmosphere of the place. They always decorated so nicely for Christmas.
 
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They're not really equivalent projects. One has to have a "secured fare area" while the other is just a strip of concrete (another good reason to move to PoP). One has to deal with a busy rapid transit line that must remain in operation during construction, the other is just a single track occasional commuter train.

Federal Realty is chipping in $15 million for the Orange Line station. New Balance will fully fund the CR station at about $16 million. What's the difference?

Then there's the precise meaning of "public-private". Does "public-private" mean that the private developer pays something, gets some benefit, but leaves the public on the hook for any problems? Does it mean that the public agency contracts out all its work to the private companies, but is subject to "unexpected" cost overruns and change-orders? Or do they have internal staff to stop that kind of bullshit?
 
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Matthew said:
They're not really equivalent projects. One has to have a "secured fare area" while the other is just a strip of concrete (another good reason to move to PoP). One has to deal with a busy rapid transit line that must remain in operation during construction, the other is just a single track occasional commuter train.

Federal Realty is chipping in $15 million for the Orange Line station. New Balance will fully fund the CR station at about $16 million. What's the difference?

Then there's the precise meaning of "public-private". Does "public-private" mean that the private developer pays something, gets some benefit, but leaves the public on the hook for any problems? Does it mean that the public agency contracts out all its work to the private companies, but is subject to "unexpected" cost overruns and change-orders? Or do they have internal staff to stop that kind of bullshit?
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Fair enough, there are many variations to public-private relationships. I was not referring to any public project that accepts private funds, but rather to a project for which the private party assumes substantial risk in both the construction and maintanence/operation.

Yes, Assembly and New Brighton Landing are very different animals. There is something to be said for the fact that NBL is planning on moving at a brisker pace than comparable T projects (Fairmount improvements, i.e.). We will have to wait and see, but I have more faith in this project than any other, given the fact that there is absolutely no reliance on public funding, either in the construction, maintenance, or operation.
 
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So far, I have no reason to believe that New Balance will fall behind. But, the project is still young -- they have time yet to become another "Harvard".

I don't think that will happen, but all I have to base that on is a hunch and a feeling based upon my limited interaction with the project manager, primary architect and some other folks related to the project.
 
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What are the ridership projections for the NBL CR stop? Even anecdotally, is anyone going to use this thing with current schedules and headways?

I find these inner CR stops to be silly and distracting from the real need for true rapid transit. But, I'm happy to proven wrong.
 
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Yawkey seems to be pretty successful. Though it feeds into a more well developed area.

One of my questions at the meeting was: will the station receive enough service to make it worthwhile? The response I received was: yes, the trains will stop there.

Hopefully that goes along with the increase in service along the Worcester line that is now possible with the end of Beacon Park CSX.

We shall see.

But I do think there is value in urban commuter rail/semi-rapid-transit, which may be realized along the Fairmount corridor, and could be along the Framingham line as well, out to Newton at least. I would prefer it to be done with efficient, electric multiple unit trains, with minimal staffing -- instead of the old fashioned 19th century-style setup they currently use.
 
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These inner stations are best served with a new schedule that makes sense.

No, people from worcester do not want to stop 5 times, adding 20 minutes to their trip.

MBTA fails terrible at making proper express and local routes.
 
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Demo has begun...
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I'm going to have a great view of this from my bedroom window: (Just need to find my actual camera so I can zoom...)

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State approvals underway for new rail station.

The station would be called “Boston Landing.” New Balance officials have said previously they hope it would open in 2014, which would make it the first completed component of the company’s large development.

The station would include a single platform, centered between the eastbound and westbound tracks of the Framingham-Worcester line, said Mark Boyle, the MBTA’s assistant general manager for development.

The conceptual plan envisions that riders would be able to access the station directly from Guest Street and Everett Street, Boyle said. The station would feature elevators and ramps to comply with accessibility standards.
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“The new station will not only serve the New Balance campus, but it will also serve the Allston-Brighton community and it will serve other institutions in the area,” he said.

Boyle said officials from New Balance have said some area institutions plan to provide shuttle access to and from the station, but Boyle declined to name the institutions because he has not spoken to them directly.
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The company began demolition on the development last fall. New Balance has said it expects to complete the six-phase project within about a four-year span. The headquarters, sports complex and the hotel are expected to be completed by 2015. The office buildings are expected to be built by 2017.

The project has already been approved, but New Balance recently requested city approval to alter some of its plan for parking. The company wants to add a sixth floor to its existing Brighton Landing parking garage. The additional floor would hold about 250 parking spaces and would allow New Balance to eliminate the same number of parking spaces from in and around the new buildings the company plans to construct next door.
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http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/allston_brighton/2013/05/state_to_vote_on_plan_for_bost.html

There is a render but its flash, so difficult to link.
 
Re: New Brighton Landing | New Balance Complex

Boston Landing is a dumb name and will cause confusion. Why not call the station Brighton Landing, as its in the neighborhood of Brighton??
 
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datadyne007 said:
Boston Landing is a dumb name and will cause confusion. Why not call the station Brighton Landing, as its in the neighborhood of Brighton??
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Answer: $ $ $ $ $ $ $

I'm guessing the naming rights is mainly a corporate decision.

Nationally and internationally, the cache for the corporation is probably better with Boston in the name.
 
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Isn't the strip mall on Western Ave already called Brighton Landing?
 
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