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Re: 1325-1341 Boylston St (Fenway Triangle/Former Goodyear Tire)

A number of factors making Fenway rank high for livability and therefore for residential development:

- Proximity to employment centers: adjacent to Longwood, walking distance to Back Bay
- Good housing stock at a mix of affordabilities
- Multiple entertainment options - this is, I believe, a direct result of the ballpark.

It's that last point which, I believe, has allowed Fenway to take off ahead of areas like Charlestown or residential Southie, which on the surface also have the former two advantages.
 
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^ This. I don't think Charlestown and Southie have the first advantage, though. They're both somewhat peripheral and hard to access from multiple areas via T or walking versus Fenway, which is wedged between two major employment centers.
 
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^ This. I don't think Charlestown and Southie have the first advantage, though. They're both somewhat peripheral and hard to access from multiple areas via T or walking versus Fenway, which is wedged between two major employment centers.

Two major employment centers? It is COMPLETELY surrounded by employment centers: Longwood, Landmark, BU, Back Bay, Northeastern... talk about a great location.
 
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Apart from what has already been said about how ideal the location is, I chose to live in Fenway for the cultural amenities. From my front door I can walk to MFA, Gardner, NEC, Boston Conservatory, Berkelee performances in 2-8 minutes. Add university libraries open to residents and various sites in the Fens and I don't think you can beat the area anywher in metropolitan Boston.
 
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It couldn't be...could it....?

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Noticed that driving by this morning. I may walk by tomorrow to get a closer look...
 
Re: 1325-1341 Boylston St (Fenway Triangle/Former Goodyear Tire)

Fenway plan adds retail, offices, and housing

Target store might anchor new building BRA to consider $250m proposal

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By Casey Ross
Globe Staff / September 15, 2011

The proposed building, with one tier framed in brick and another covered in glass, seems to reflect the Fenway neighborhood’s folksy past and its modernist present.

It is developer Steve Samuels’ latest effort to revitalize a scrubby section of Boylston Street near Fenway Park by adding a mix of residences, offices, and retail options, including what would be that area’s first Target department store.

The Boston Redevelopment Authority tonight will decide whether to approve the $250 million project, which would include 225,000 square feet of office space, 150 residences, an underground parking garage, and about 165,000 square feet for stores. Samuels wants to start construction in the spring of 2012.

“This development will bring ground-floor retail activity and plenty of new shops and restaurants,’’ said Peter Sougarides, executive vice president of development for Samuels & Associates. “It will also bring a retail anchor that has been missing from this corridor.’’

Sougarides said the firm is in final discussions with Target about opening a store on two floors of the multitiered building, which would have offices in an 11-story brick section and residences in a 13-story glass part of the structure. The residences would probably be apartments. The stores would be at street level and on the lower floors of the building, which is designed by Elkus Manfredi Architects.

A spokeswoman for Target confirmed the company is working with city officials to open a new store in Boston but would not specify the location.

If approved, the project, near the corner of Van Ness and Boylston streets, will replace a parking garage, a car wash, and a former Goodyear service store. The new building would include a rooftop garden above the lower midsection that would link the residential side of the building with the offices.

The BRA tonight will take up a zoning change that would give Samuels more flexibility to meet requirements for affordable housing and other community benefits. Authority officials said Samuels wants to make 7.5 percent of the units affordable, below the minimum of 10 percent. But they said he is considering providing funds for affordable units to be built elsewhere, or building additional community space, such as a senior center.

The project would be Samuels’ third major redevelopment in the area during the past decade. He also developed residences and shops at 1330 Boylston St. and a bigger complex called Trilogy, with hundreds of apartments, stores and restaurants. He recently purchased the Landmark Center retail and office complex, and is considering an expansion on that property.

Samuels has been meeting with residents and city officials for months to pave the way for the project at Van Ness and Boylston. He is also seeking approval tonight for a second 17-story residential building that would be built later at 132 Brookline Ave. Sougarides said the firm has not set a start date for construction of that building, which would cost about $65 million.

BRA officials have encouraged redevelopment in the area, approving zoning changes to allow for greater density that would support construction of large buildings with stores, residences, and offices.

Until recent years, the area has struggled to attract redevelopment to replace its tired mix of gas stations and fast-food restaurants. But Samuels and others have begun to attract new retail stores such as Guitar Center and the upscale furniture shop West Elm, along with several new restaurants. It is among the few areas of the city that have continued to attract development activity despite the recent economic downturn.

The Target would be the retailer’s first in a dense section of the city with limited parking. Sougarides said the firm expects the store will draw customers from area residences, limiting the need for on-site parking.

City officials are working with Samuels on an array of long-planned transportation improvements in the area, including reconstruction of Boylston Street, new pedestrian crossings, and other improvements. City and state officials have set aside $55 million for the improvements, but have yet to begin building.

Samuels plans to install sidewalks and trees to help lay the groundwork for those upgrades and will build a new road through his development site between Boylston and Van Ness streets.
 
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Looks like Kairos and his henchmen at the BRA have done their due diligence to dumb this project down. I didn't love the original scheme, but is this an improvement?
 
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Not a fan of the changes. The middle section with the three enormous windows looks especially stupid.
 
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Wow...what a shame...the original was much much better
 
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Obvious question: there can probably be only one Target between here and DTX. So where is Target's real interest? If Target chooses DTX, is this project sunk for the time being?
 
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The Target on the fringes of Suffolk Downs is "closer" to DTX than this location. I think there's room in the marketplace for both.
 
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I do realize there were multiple Filene's Basements and still are multiple Marshalls in closer proximity than this, but might a Target here preclude a Target at DTC?
If this Target has a grocer section, it could help to expedite the redevelopment of the Fenway Shaws location.
 
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Re: 1325-1341 Boylston St (Fenway Triangle/Former Goodyear Tire)

nico, that was my first thought as well. That shaws needs to go, and a grocery section at Target would allow the shaws to be demolished and replaced without leaving the neighborhood without food.
 
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I'm all for getting rid of the building Shaws is in, but replacing it with a Target avec grocery section isn't exactly apples to apples--Targets don't have produce sections, or at least I've never seen one. And this would be especially ironic considering it would replace the makeshift farmers market that's been inhabiting the old Goodyear space for the past year or so.
 
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I like this better than the original render, which seemed much too cluttered. I also like the way it gives the appearance of being multiple buildings.

Regarding Target, I'm more likely to use this location than DTX (very likely, in fact) but I don't see them competing any more than the Landmark Best Buy does with the one on Mass. Ave.
 
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The excavation photo looks like removal of an underground fuel tank or an old oil and gas separator. I assume that location has always been a car dealership, gas station, service station, or something to do with cars.
 
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I'm all for getting rid of the building Shaws is in, but replacing it with a Target avec grocery section isn't exactly apples to apples--Targets don't have produce sections, or at least I've never seen one. And this would be especially ironic considering it would replace the makeshift farmers market that's been inhabiting the old Goodyear space for the past year or so.

The "City Target" concept does have a decent produce section (they have them in Atlanta). Lots of packaged produce (cellophane-wrapped mushrooms, celery, carrots, salad mixes, green beans, bags of apples, oranges, etc.) but not as big a selection as a good grocery store. Fortunately, we aren't spoiled by good grocery stores here in Boston so we probably won't notice. :)
 
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The "City Target" concept does have a decent produce section (they have them in Atlanta). Lots of packaged produce (cellophane-wrapped mushrooms, celery, carrots, salad mixes, green beans, bags of apples, oranges, etc.) but not as big a selection as a good grocery store. Fortunately, we aren't spoiled by good grocery stores here in Boston so we probably won't notice. :)

When you look at TarzJays corporate website they have lots of models of different scales which could inhabit a complex in the Fenway and another at DRX

personally I think the Produce for sale could be listed on a slightly smaller scale Green Monster with the shopping carts stored in the Bullpen
 
Re: 1325-1341 Boylston St (Fenway Triangle/Former Goodyear Tire)

The "City Target" concept does have a decent produce section (they have them in Atlanta). Lots of packaged produce (cellophane-wrapped mushrooms, celery, carrots, salad mixes, green beans, bags of apples, oranges, etc.) but not as big a selection as a good grocery store. Fortunately, we aren't spoiled by good grocery stores here in Boston so we probably won't notice. :)
People in the Fenway who are used to having a real grocery store would notice. Boston needs more grocery stores, not less. With all the new residential units, I think a bigger upgraded super market would be better than a Target.
 

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