BU Development Thread

BU planning new buildings, dorm renovation on campus
Posted by Johanna Kaiser February 2, 2012 04:01 PM

Boston University has unveiled its latest campus construction plans, proposing to build two new 11-story academic buildings, expand other academic buildings and renovate an existing dormitory.

The university aims to keep more students on campus and to improve its academic and research facilities with the construction. No timetable was set in the latest proposals, which were described to residents in a meeting Wednesday.

One proposed academic building would would replace a parking lot at the corner of Commonwealth Avenue and Granby Street in the school’s central campus.

The other building to be used for science and engineering research would replace an existing building at 30-38 Cummington Street. Buildings at that location hug the Massachusetts Turnpike, but the school is in the process of turning Cummington Street into a pedestrian mall, allowing the proposed building to expand into the street.

The school also plans to build additions to its College of Communication and two brownstones at 130 Bay State Road.

These proposals and others were outlined Wednesday at a public task force meeting for its Institutional Master Plan, a plan that outlines all possible projects for the next 10 years. Large institutions are required by the city to draft such plans that must be approved through a public process.

In an attempt to make dormitory life more appealing to students, the school also plans to fully renovate and modernize its Myles Standish dormitories. School officials said the building would be closed during the project and the changes would result in fewer rooms.

It’s a change school officials hope will create more appealing dorms to encourage more upperclassmen to live on-campus instead of moving out into surrounding neighborhoods, where residents have complained of loud parties, rent hikes, and a loss of property value.

The school also plans to build a third dormitory between the school’s recently completed high rise dorms on Buick Street and Harry Agganis Way. This 11-story dorm was previously approved and will hold up to 523 students.

"We have captured them back with the towers," Robert Donahue, the school's associate vice president for government and community affairs, said. "People tend to leave as upperclassmen," he said. Currently, 77 percent of students live on campus.

Although there is no set timeline for any of the proposed projects, the school said it would complete the third Student Village dorm before it closed Myles Standish for construction to ensure students could live on campus.

The two projects would create a net gain of about 400 to 500 beds. Colin Riley, a spokesman for BU, said the school does not plan to increase enrollment.

Residents of Audubon Circle, the small Fenway neighborhood where the school owns apartments for student housing, asked that the master plan show the school's southern border as the alley between Buswell and Beacon streets, based on a 1982 agreement with the city. Neighborhood buildings already owned by the school were categorized as part of the school in its first master plan in 1986.

"Delineating that boundary is very important to us," said Kathy Greenough, a member of the Audubon Circle Neighborhood Association, as a way to keep the school from expanding.

The university agreed in 2010 to not house undergraduate students on the south side of Beacon Street, and Donahue said standard zoning guidelines would apply to the school if it planned to expand

"We could buy a building, but we can't change the use [from a residence to a dormitory]," he said. None of the school's proposed master plan projects are in the Audubon Circle area.

The school also plans to continue beautification along Commonweath Avenue by adding benches, trees, bike racks, and trash cans and modifying sidewalks to improve safety.

Task force members asked for a timeline or a list of priorities from the school, noting that multiple construction projects would clog traffic along Commonwealth Avenue and surrounding neighborhoods.

Officials said they do not plan to take on all the projects at once and the pace of the developments depend on funding and the approval process.

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/fenway-kenmore/2012/02/bu_planning_new_buildings_dorm.html
 
Myles Standish was dilapidated when I was a student 12 years ago. Glad to see that getting a long overdue renovation.
 
BU set to increase the number of students with unrealistic post-graduation living standards....though I lived in the first Student Village...can't say I didn't enjoy it....but it's a joke that 20 year old's are living on other people's dimes like that.
 
Myles Standish was dilapidated when I was a student 12 years ago. Glad to see that getting a long overdue renovation.

And to show how things change, it was one of the premier dorms when I lived in it, 12 years before that. I'm sure it could use some work, but how much of this is needed maintenance compared to making it suitable for students who now expect million dollar penthouse views from their dorms?
 
Myles is no doubt a needed renovation. It's a total dump.
 
Don't mind me, I'm just a visual learner......

bu2020.jpg
 
Myles is no doubt a needed renovation. It's a total dump.

Oh yeah...Myles is a dump. There's sewage leaks all over that building and the air quality is awful because of all the ancient crumbling plaster on the dorm walls, peeling paint, and old furnaces. I used to be a student manager for BU Dining Services and had access to Myles kitchen and storage when I had to make deliveries between dining halls. I would not eat in that dining hall with a Hazmat suit on with the condition it and the storage areas are in (actually, somebody has to be buying off the health inspector for Shelton Hall and Towers to have not have been closed by the city yet for their vermin problems). And this was 12 years ago with no major renovation work since.

It's not just deferred maintenance; the building is the oldest of the major dorms, being converted to that use in 1949. It badly needs a floor-by-floor rebuild. Outside of some brownstones that still haven't gotten makeovers it's the poorest-condition of all the BU residence halls.


Nice video on the building's history:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cXcRNcNGko.
 
Here is a link to the actual plan:

http://www.bu.edu/community/files/2011/12/BU-IMPNF-12-21-11-final2.pdf

Having seen earlier plans, I would be surprised if more than one of the major buildings being proposed is built within the next decade.
Thanks for the link.

Residence halls are readily financed, because they pay for themselves, you could even say these can be profit centers for a university. Academic buildings, major athletic facilities, etc. are more difficult to finance, because there typically isn't a dedicated revenue stream coming in from their use, and which is sufficient to pay for the construction.
 
Thanks for the link.

Residence halls are readily financed, because they pay for themselves, you could even say these can be profit centers for a university. Academic buildings, major athletic facilities, etc. are more difficult to finance, because there typically isn't a dedicated revenue stream coming in from their use, and which is sufficient to pay for the construction.

Stel -- almost all major academic buildings are now financed by fat-cat donors with their family featured in the lobby, etc.

Consider MIT''s newer buildings along Vassar St in Cambridge:
Stata Center (actually Gates (Bill) and Dreyfoos towers)
McGovern Institute for Brain Sciences including the Picower Center
The David H. Koch Institute for Integrative Cancer Research
 
Stel -- almost all major academic buildings are now financed by fat-cat donors with their family featured in the lobby, etc.

Consider MIT''s newer buildings along Vassar St in Cambridge:
Stata Center (actually Gates (Bill) and Dreyfoos towers)
McGovern Institute for Brain Sciences including the Picower Center
The David H. Koch Institute for Integrative Cancer Research

BU does not have the level of fat cat donorship that MIT does.
 
Oh yeah...Myles is a dump. There's sewage leaks all over that building and the air quality is awful because of all the ancient crumbling plaster on the dorm walls, peeling paint, and old furnaces. I used to be a student manager for BU Dining Services and had access to Myles kitchen and storage when I had to make deliveries between dining halls. I would not eat in that dining hall with a Hazmat suit on with the condition it and the storage areas are in (actually, somebody has to be buying off the health inspector for Shelton Hall and Towers to have not have been closed by the city yet for their vermin problems). And this was 12 years ago with no major renovation work since.

It's not just deferred maintenance; the building is the oldest of the major dorms, being converted to that use in 1949. It badly needs a floor-by-floor rebuild. Outside of some brownstones that still haven't gotten makeovers it's the poorest-condition of all the BU residence halls.
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Please.

I live in Myles for 2.5 years and worked in the dining hall for 3.5 years. Its in fine shapes, one of the best dorm buildings on campus. Those furnaces still work perfectly, and allow you to control your bedroom temperature, something impossible in the new dorms. I dont know how people manage to live int he student village without being able to open their windows, I would die.

There were absolutely no vermin problems at all inside the building (the alley where the dumpsters are, was infested)

And what did you find wrong with the food storage? Certainly much better than the kitchens at Shelton.
 
BU is the only school to have a group called NONE - not one nickle, ever. Silber didn't not make a lot of friends.
I hear that the reason that BU is not a member of the pretigious Association of American Universities, despite being a major reseach school, is that John Silber pissed off so many people in academia across the country, not just people at BU.
 
Please.

I live in Myles for 2.5 years and worked in the dining hall for 3.5 years. Its in fine shapes, one of the best dorm buildings on campus. Those furnaces still work perfectly, and allow you to control your bedroom temperature, something impossible in the new dorms. I dont know how people manage to live int he student village without being able to open their windows, I would die.

There were absolutely no vermin problems at all inside the building (the alley where the dumpsters are, was infested)

And what did you find wrong with the food storage? Certainly much better than the kitchens at Shelton.

R.O.U.S.'s. And roaches galore. Shut the lights off at closing time and the creatures of the night would appear in numbers.

If it's improved in the last 12 years, great. I don't know what they would've done to clean that place spic-and-span and flush out all the hiding spots in that old building, though. It was that rampant. Every once in awhile I'd see something scampering about mid-dinner shift. Myles and Shelton for damn sure. Never saw anything at Towers.
 
Please.

I live in Myles for 2.5 years and worked in the dining hall for 3.5 years. Its in fine shapes, one of the best dorm buildings on campus. Those furnaces still work perfectly, and allow you to control your bedroom temperature, something impossible in the new dorms. I dont know how people manage to live int he student village without being able to open their windows, I would die.

There were absolutely no vermin problems at all inside the building (the alley where the dumpsters are, was infested)

And what did you find wrong with the food storage? Certainly much better than the kitchens at Shelton.
When did you live there? Your description matches my recollection, but I was there a long time before F-Line. In fact, I lived right above the alley on the second floor, and while we made great sport of watching the rats, and scaring them with high powered flashlights, they never seemed prepared to invade the building. Lots of great memories in that place, it saddens me to hear it referred to as a dump. I'm glad your experience was more like mine.
 
BU does not have the level of fat cat donorship that MIT does.

Tom -- it took quite a while for MIT to accumulate the cashe to enable / encourage fat cat donation -- remember that MIT's endowment is only about 1/4 to 1/3 of Haaaahvds

and that the vast majority of Haaaaavds endowment is from the mid/ late 20th Century

and the vast majority of MIT's about 10B$ has been donated since 1970 (or arrived via the high gain investment route including Kendall Sq / Cambridge Center)

My guess is that if BU maintains is commitment to being a world class research university that it will develop enough of a cache to start to see Koch-type donations in the next 20 years
 

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