One thing I realized out of all this is America has no manufacturing the o
Concerning the parks and the beaches. The state shutdown the parks and beaches. Most people don't have the luxury to walk from town to town to a beach. The parks are shutdown if an officer catches you hanging out there you will be asked to leave.
I just don't see the difference in waiting in a parking lot at Walmart if they are trying to avoid overall crowds.
How is outsourcing most if not all manufacturing to Communist Regime not a National Security threat for United State citizens? We almost went to nuclear war with the Russians in the late 60's over this ideology.
Concerning manufacturing, I agree that the bipartisan consensus from the late 1980s through the recent era that free trade was always good was a massive miscalculation. Granted I don't think tariffs are the answer to that, but our federal government shouldn't be encouraging essential US manufacturing in one of our biggest geopolitical rivals.
As an aside, China is "communist" in name only. Their political-economy has morphed into something much closer to fascism than Maoist communism. Not to say they're not a national security threat–they absolutely are–but not because of communism.
George do you work in gov't? Sure sounds like it, or at the least, have a protected paycheck. I own a business, so I don't need the lecture. I have seen first hand other business owners CLOSE FOR GOOD because of this pathetic leadership at the state level.
I am fortunate enough to have a protected paycheck and I work for a municipal government. Trust me, I have mountains of respect for small business owners trying to get through all of this. I'm married to one. I know what people are going through with producing multiple budgets and figuring out how to outlast the shutdown + recession that we're facing. It's very industry specific and very specific to specific businesses. I hate seeing businesses (mostly restaurants) closing for good. I know the PPP loan forgiveness program ran out of money fast, and not all businesses have the ability to maintain themselves even with that federal money. I know that the state has limited financial resources to bear. I don't know how your business is doing nor about the businesses of your clients and friends. If they're struggling, I sympathize with their frustrations.
What I don't get is what you wanted the state to do. Not shut down? Reopen when Georgia did? I'm not clear on what has made the leadership pathetic.
This is a free society and 48 states have found a way to reopen better than us, including NY. Check out GA and FL...going pretty good isn't it? Baker and Walsh both are over their heads here. Are you really telling me an pot shop is better for society than a gym? Our population is obese. Hate to tell ya, but having people exercise vigorously and diet correctly does a hell of a lot more than wearing a cloth mask outside.
As others have mentioned, Georgia's state government botched their data to justify reopening when they did. I never mentioned pot shops. As far as I can tell, recreational pot shops are closed. Gyms are damn important for people's mental and physical well-being, but they're also one of the most dangerous venues from the perspective of virus control. Loads of shared equipment. Heavy breathers indoors and in close proximity to one another. That's a nightmare from a public health perspective.
I'm also confused about your jab at masks. If you want to reopen, you should be fucking begging people to wear masks. If you want me to go through the reasons why, I'm happy to. The mask isn't to protect the
wearer's health, it's primarily to protect
others around the wearer if you are an asymptomatic carrier. If everyone in close proximity wears a mask, potential for transmission drops dramatically.
Do I think people need to wear a mask if they're able to be socially distant when they're outside? I don't know. Studies differ on how long COVID-19 can survive in water droplets produced by exhaling. I'm willing to play it safe from a civic responsibility perspective and just wear a damn mask. It
is possible to work out outdoors wearing a mask. I went for a hard 40 mile bike ride the other day bandit style and it wasn't a big deal. Once I was on suburban roads I pulled it down my chin. When I saw people I pulled it up. Right choice? Wrong choice? Social signalling? Who knows. But it's not some oppressive thing.
I can tell you're angry and upset, but the way you're writing is like you're spraying machine-gun fire at things that make you mad. You're not effectively responding to the arguments people are making, which makes your arguments functionally weaker.
Also, you take shots at the Federal level (because you must have TDS). What exactly could they have done for MA? Baker said they have received everything they have asked for. The Army Corps helped with setting up HOPE, which never had more than 150 or so patients in it. Can you please point to specific MA examples of where the Feds did not give us what we needed? This is a local issue and unfortunately, we have proven we have leaders who are just not qualified for this. I'm really hoping these one way arrows on the sidewalks make all the difference tho.
I'm taking shots at the parts of government that aren't working. I took shots at Baker for slow-walking his announcement last week. I take shots at the Trump admin because they are so god-damned incompetent to get anything done properly. I can give you a list of things that the feds have done wrong since January, but I don't think you're interested. Let me know.
Tell me what you want local leaders to do. What is your preferred policy to control the pandemic
and reopen. How is it different from the governor's plan. I'm not some Charlie Baker/Marty Walsh fanboy. There's plenty to criticise about their crisis response. But what would you be doing if you were governor?
Also... suggesting another user (let alone a moderator) has "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is the kind of pointless
ad hominem jab that we're not going to be putting up with on this board. And this has nothing to do with my perceptions of your personal politics. I don't give a shit what your personal politics are. But keep discussion focused on the issues and not on making ridiculous assumptions about other users. Consider this a warning.
