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Re: Bayside Expo Center Redevelopment

WTF happened to The Globe? And the radio station's building?

How many people are going to want their window to open up to the southeast expressway? Other than that its not that bad but its very pie-in-sky.
 
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I'll have a slice of pie, please.
 
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The Globe has no plans to move at this point, but the plan wants to set the stage in case it does. It's written in such a way that it can be applied in pieces. The Shaw's parcel is definitely going to be redeveloped (and the Shaw's will stay in the new building), as well as the Corcoran Jenisen property/Bayside Expo Center. Sovereign Bank will remain, unless they decide to redevelop as well.

So in short, no one is being forced to do anything. This plan is designed to give guidance to the existing redevelopment interests as well as lay the foundation for other potential redevelopment of the remaining parcels.
 
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Well that isn't exactly shocking, though I wonder how this will affect redevelopment plans (my guess is we won't see anything here for a good long time.)
 
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corcoran has a lot of money...I doubt this will be end in an auction.
 
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If they won't do the smart thing and turn the Hynes into an upscale casino, then turn this into a plebian one. Nice beach there. Throw up a couple of hotels there too and you are set.
 
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A casino on the Red Line? Too easy for the MIT kids to get to. The Commonwealth would be bankrupt in a minute with all the card counters lurking around the place.
 
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I was scrolling through SkyscraperCity.com yesterday afternoon and I stumbled upon a thread called "Urban Diversity in Paris suburbs". There was a particular development that caught my eye, because in my opinion it's the perfect way we could ever imagine to redevelop an area. It would be great if they could implement this at this location (though we all know they won't). So get ready to be jealous/depressed.

Before: Ugly commieblocks

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After: All developments you see here are less than 15 years old

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Looks like a redesign not a build up
 
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Some bank just foreclosed on the Bayside Expo Center, which could delay the development here.
 
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See, I think that is too nice. Like Disney nice. It just seems fake to me. Yes the quality is much higher than anything we could pull off but that doesn't make it any less strange to me.
 
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I do agree it does look a bit Disney-ish, but it's a new development. Once it gets a little bit of wear and tear, I'm sure it will look more like the traditional developments since it will lose its glossy finish.

Remember, character isn't built. It's developed.
 
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Suffolk 83 said:
Looks like a redesign not a build up
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Yea I guess. However instead of just knocking down the old buildings and putting up newer, shiny ones, they changed the roads from a grid to thin, winding roads. They look like they belong in the downtown of a historic city, not a recent suburban redevelopment.

Regardless of whether it's a redesign or build-up, I don't see a reason why American urban developments can't look like this at least to some degree.

Wouldn't it be more profitable for developers to build like this anyway? By building with these thin, winding roads they're able to put in many more units in an area than they would with wide boulevards that we often see throughout newer developments. I know it's necessary for one main boulevard in order to make transportation more convenient, but why can't we make the rest of a development dense and thin like we see in that French suburb?
 
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The only local equivalent to that Parisian development that I can think of is Marina Bay, which is less dense.
 
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I'd honestly prefer the commieblocks, it is just such a powerful architectural style, and if done right, it's a better residential neighborhood design imo than the fake urban villages (at least in Asia; there, I've seen it with my own eyes). There's room for street markets, no worries about the aesthetics of shops (they can be as crappy or good-looking as possible, no NIMBY neighborhood association to worry about usually), and one can find as quiet or busy a place to live as possible in the development. Of course, these can be done incorrectly as well, if the commieblock development is too large with no roads running through it with shops, then it's just "towers in the park." But where I've seen them make up the majority of my hometown (Tianjin), they seem to be urbanistically quite successful. Unfortunately, most of the city's new suburbs are just car-dependent true "towers in the park" with none of the positive attributes I talked about.
 
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^^ Any pictures you have would be awesome
 
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yeah, I have thousands. I'll give a few examples:

Small towers in the park development, retail along the boundary on all 4 sides, and lots of bicycle/pedestrian traffic (mostly because of the huge population rather than good urban design):

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From my quiet commieblock apartment:

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Retail between 2 commieblock neighborhoods:

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Stuy Town
 
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