Dorchester Infill and Small Developments

cityrecord said:
Parking is one issue, and the fact that Jones Hill walks to the red line at Savin Hill is another. The traffic flow, both vehicular and pedestrian, is all wrong. When multiple streetcar lines went through Uphams Corner, it made a lot more sense as a commercial hub. It also doesn't help that one major corner is taken up by a burying ground.
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Do you think the Fairmount upgrade will help?
 
Shepard said:
Do you think the Fairmount upgrade will help?
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To improve the quality of the commercial district in Uphams Corner? Not really. I don't think enough people will use it for everyday commuting to South Station and then walk up Dudley to Columbia Road. I live on the top of Jones Hill, and the commuter rail and the red line seem almost equidistant, but the subway wins because of frequency.
 
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one more, my T stop
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there are 3 other panels in the station that were added with the recent renovation. Is Franklin park really part of Dorchester? It has nothing to do with the Shawmut Neighborhood
 
I thought there wasn't any doubt Franklin Park was part of Dorchester but you'd probably know better than me
 
I'm not sure? I always thought it was in Roxbury but then again its only 7mins from my home in Dot center
 
It was actually in the Town of West Roxbury when it was annexed to Boston, but neighborhoods no longer recognize those boundaries.
 
thanks^ never knew that! but is it now part of Dorchester or Roxbury?
 
But doesn't everybody say the Franklin Park Zoo is in Dorchester?
 
Suffolk 83 said:
I thought there wasn't any doubt Franklin Park was part of Dorchester but you'd probably know better than me
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Franklin Park is in Jamaica Plain. It abuts Dorchester on one side, but the land on which the park is built was always part of West Roxbury pre-annexation. That part of West Roxbury is what became Jamaica Plain. I don't think there is any legitimate way to argue that the park is in Dorchester.
 
Wait, I take back what I said. Franklin Park isn't in ANY neighborhood, it exists by itself between JP, Roxbury, and Dorchester. Same goes with any good large park, it connects different neighborhoods around it (a big reason why the Greenway fails so hard).

Think about it, when you are in the park you aren't "in" Dorchester or Roxbury, you are in the park. It is only at the edges where you begin to feel that you are entering into a neighborhood. Parks don't make neighborhoods, buildings do. The small London square style parks in the South End are different because they are integrated into the neighborhood and are defined by the buildings around them. Franklin Park, even Boston Common, is too large to be of a neighborhood.
 
Mostly I agree with you, but the Arnold Arboretum is also quite large, and everyone agrees that it's in Jamaica Plain. (Even though a couple of small back gates lead to Roslindale.)
 
Exception to the rule, though I would argue that this is mostly due to a poorly defined border with Roslindale.
 
I've always considered South St/Bussey St. to form that part of the border between JP and Roslindale. Two thirds of the Arboretum is in JP, 1/3 is in Rozzie. But the mailing address is definitely 02130.
 
Kind of like Allston Brighton there is a fuzzy line where one becomes the other. And to go on another quick tangent, is there a clear line where Brooklyn becomes Queens?
 
GW2500 said:
Kind of like Allston Brighton there is a fuzzy line where one becomes the other. And to go on another quick tangent, is there a clear line where Brooklyn becomes Queens?
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I think yes, since they are separate counties, meaning there are jurisdictional issues (over election districts, crime, etc.) that don't exist for Boston's neighborhoods.
 
GW2500 said:
Kind of like Allston Brighton there is a fuzzy line where one becomes the other. And to go on another quick tangent, is there a clear line where Brooklyn becomes Queens?
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Oh, yes; there's a razor-clean line between the two. Look on a map.
 
If you're actually on the ground, though, rather than on a map, does the line appear so clear-cut? Do the style of buildings, or the plantings, change markedly at the county line?
 
GW2500 said:
And to go on another quick tangent, is there a clear line where Brooklyn becomes Queens?
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At Newtown Creek there is since it is a big waterway that separates the two but past that it is impossible to tell.
 
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