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Carrie Nation is definitely not in DTX. Oceanaire isnt really either
Carrie Nation is definitely not in DTX. Oceanaire isnt really either
The crowds at both are definitely from DTX. IMHO think one block away from the "border" counts.
Also, I forgot Townsman, on Essex at Kingston (although it is technically in Chinatown on that side of the street it is definitely NOT a Chinatown restaurant).
I'm not sure what the type of crowd has do with something's location. Carrie Nation is NOT in DTX, its on Beacon Hill
I think there definitely needs to be more sit down restaurants along Washington St. They could easily spill out into the street with cafe tables and the like. This would create some great activity along there in the evening/night.
I agree. The area isn't lacking in establishments at which one can eat and drink. It's lacking in establishments at which one can eat and drink that interact well with the street. The patio at Cafe Nero is something we need a whole lot more of.
Question for any ADA experts out there: On streets where vehicular traffic is so limited, could sidewalk seating take up the entire width of the sidewalk>
I think as long as you left 4-5' ft on the raised part of the sidewalk, that would satisfy ADA, but most people would probably walk in the street.
One of the best things Bloomberg did for NYC was install pedestrian plazas by carving out space from bloated street intersections. There is a certain crowd density that is needed to support one but DTX could be the best place for it. I honestly think opening Washington St back up to traffic would help and keeping some of the side streets ped only. That brings energy back into the area but not so much that it is choked with traffic; It would be a slow zone for sure.
Downtown Crossing named one of country’s 'most livable' neighborhoods — but there’s a big caveat
Apr 21, 2015, 1:28pm EDT UPDATED: Apr 22, 2015, 2:54pm EDT
David L. Harris
The AARP Public Policy Institute study on “The Most Livable Places at 50+” named Boston's Downtown Crossing neighborhood as one of the "most livable neighborhoods" in the country.
Catherine Carlock
Real Estate Editor-
Boston Business Journal
With abundant housing and transportation options, a relatively clean environment, access to health care and parks, Boston’s Downtown Crossing neighborhoods has been named one of the “most livable neighborhoods” in the U.S. — but there’s a caveat, according to an intensive AARP Public Policy Institute study on “The Most Livable Places at 50+” released this month.
The caveat? Income inequality and lack of opportunity.
The AARP Livability Index examined seven categories of livability — housing, neighborhood, transportation, environment, health, civic and social engagement and opportunity — using nationally available data to study every Census-defined neighborhood across the country, said Rodney Harrell, director of livable communities for the AARP Public Policy Institute. It’s the first study of its kind that crosses such wide category ranges and analyzes every U.S. neighborhood, he said.
The study considered the Downtown Crossing neighborhood as the eight blocks bordered by Essex Street, Washington Street, Chauncy Street and Milk Street. The neighborhood scored a perfect 100 on transportation access, a 98 on housing and a 91 on the neighborhood score, and also rated above average on environment (clean air and water) and social engagement.
what was supposed to be lacking was the category of "Opportunity"?
That does come off really oddly. If he had said "income and opportunity inequality" maybe that'd be true. As in, overabundance of opportunity for white collar well educated, and shortage of opportunity for less well educated people.
But as compared to many cities' downtowns, I don't even think that's true. there's a far more mixed range of businesses than one finds in a stock financial district sort of downtown.
Very perplexing thing to say.
"But the one category where Downtown Crossing ranked below 50 on the 100-point scale is the “opportunity” category.
For that category, the study considered factors such as income inequality, jobs per person, high school graduation rates, and how multigenerational the neighborhood is."
The article explains it. Whigh's excerpt is not the full article (we can't legally post full BBJ articles).
Apparently DTX's high school grad rate is 64.5%, which is well below the nat'l avg of 81.3%. Kind of weird, as DTX barely even has high school children living there.
....The study considered factors such as income inequality, jobs per person, high school graduation rates, and how multigenerational the neighborhood is.
“We’re trying to understand, through our metrics and policies, whether people of all types and needs are included,” Harrell said