Four Seasons Tower @ CSC | 1 Dalton Street | Back Bay

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Multiple press releases have been saying the tower will be 740'. Others say,
over 740'.... could still be 756'.

https://www.google.com/search?q=1+d...e7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=

Or, maybe the 16' difference is the height of the antenna's base.

Google said:
One Dalton Boston Four Seasons Hotel & Private Residences Back Bay
www.campionre.com/luxury.../four-seasons-hotel-and-private-residences...
Jan 14, 2015 - Four Seasons Private Residences One Dalton Street, Boston | 1 ... At 61 stories and over 740 feet, Four Seasons Private Residences One ...

The Four Seasons' One Dalton Street Is a Tower of Power
www.bostonmagazine.com/property/article/2016/04/.../one-dalton-street/
Apr 3, 2016 - Read about One Dalton Street, the Four Seasons' new tower in Boston ... 740 feet. Height of One Dalton, the tallest residential building in New ...

Boston's tallest residential building reveals what its interiors will look ...
boston.curbed.com/2016/11/1/13445898/one-dalton-interior-boston
Nov 1, 2016 - It will be 740 feet at its tallest point and include 699 feet of habitable ... One Dalton to run to 740 feet ... 1 Dalton St, Boston, MA 02115, USA.

Bldup - One Dalton
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One dalton street four seasons hotel residential condominiums luxury tower back ... One Dalton will be the tallest residential tower in New England at 740 feet and 61 .... 1 wayside road burlington nuance communications piedmont office realty ...

A look inside Four Seasons at One Dalton, set to be Boston's 3rd ...
www.bizjournals.com/.../11/a-look-inside-four-seasons-at-one-dalton-set...
Nov 1, 2016, 5:04am EDT Updated Nov 1, 2016, 2:16pm EDT ... The developers behind the 61-story, 740-foot hotel and luxury condominium tower say it will be...
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The FAA says 756 they haven't been wrong about any of the other buildings so that is the height to the highest architectural feature. There is a 100 foot antenna planned to rise above that.

(edit: full disclosure posted that when i was annoyed about unrelated stuff and probably shouldn't have, removed unnecessary comments)
 
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I wonder how that antenna is going to look. I forgot about that. Someone had rendered an antenna before and it was kind of ugly. Hopefully its barely noticeable like the Hancock antennas.
 
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I wonder how that antenna is going to look. I forgot about that. Someone had rendered an antenna before and it was kind of ugly. Hopefully its barely noticeable like the Hancock antennas.
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i don't think any reports have said that it's to be an FM master antenna like that atop the prudential over over in needham, so it'll probably be relatively unobtrustive -- unless they opt to make it an architectural feature (which i'd be fine with, so long as it looked good).
 
If it was an architectural feature I would imagine it would have been rendered. You wouldn't need a 100 foot lightning rod, so my guess is it will be used for radio transmissions. It makes sense because its not every day in Boston that you get a new 756' tower to broadcast from. Many towers in Boston have some type of antenna attached to them if you look closely at the roofs. The most noticeable ones that aren't obvious like 1 beacon or the pru would be the hancock, financial center, the fed has a few that unless you really look for them you would never know they exist, one boston place has them slapped to the side of the box, excange place, 100 fed has a few, and more. Petty much anything tall in Boston has them besides International place and 111 huntington for obvious reasons from what Ive seen.


Exchange place

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1bp

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The Fed

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Anyone have any inside info?
 
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Hey, is 30 Dalton open yet? If it is we could find someone on this site to take pictures of construction for us.
 
The crazy thing about this tower is that noone knows its under construction. I dont know a single person thats not on this forum that knows about this. Even my dad who is currently working on the pierce and works on most major towers that go up had no idea. People and nimbys alike are about to sh*t their pants when this thing comes into view...and then keeps growing and growing and growing. Should be a good time when the back bay skyline as we know it changes forever.
 
Stick, you are so right. Nobody seems to know. I drove by there a few weeks ago when up in Boston and almost missed it. These types of tall, slim, small footprint towers are very common in NYC. People are going to go nuts when they realize that it will be taller than the Pru.
 
stick n move said:
The crazy thing about this tower is that noone knows its under construction. I dont know a single person thats not on this forum that knows about this. Even my dad who is currently working on the pierce and works on most major towers that go up had no idea. People and nimbys alike are about to sh*t their pants when this thing comes into view...and then keeps growing and growing and growing. Should be a good time when the back bay skyline as we know it changes forever.
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hopefully all the fanfare surrounding this tower's rise will induce some jealousy over at simon, resulting in a de-shelving of copley tower
 
stick n move said:
If it was an architectural feature I would imagine it would have been rendered. You wouldn't need a 100 foot lightning rod, so my guess is it will be used for radio transmissions. It makes sense because its not every day in Boston that you get a new 756' tower to broadcast from. Many towers in Boston have some type of antenna attached to them if you look closely at the roofs. The most noticeable ones that aren't obvious like 1 beacon or the pru would be the hancock, financial center, the fed has a few that unless you really look for them you would never know they exist, one boston place has them slapped to the side of the box, excange place, 100 fed has a few, and more. Petty much anything tall in Boston has them besides International place and 111 huntington for obvious reasons from what Ive seen.

Anyone have any inside info?
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Stick -- if there is an antenna the ultimate authority is the FCC -- they have to approve the specific license for the antenna:
details of construction
use
height above the sidewalk
height above the roof
height above MSL

However -- there will not be an application filed until the antenna is ready to be installed -- so we have to wait

Here's the info on the Pru
JOSEPH F BROOKS, Prudential Building (Lat: 42.347222 , Lon: -71.082500), Type: 276.7, Overall height: 276.7 m, Registrant: 5856214599, Gary@4fcchelp.Com, 607 EL MAR DRIVE
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http://www.city-data.com/towers/cell-Boston-Massachusetts.html#ixzz4S6U14iC3

and

Registration Detail
Reg Number 1002788
Status Constructed
File Number A0650296
Constructed 09/01/1990
EMI No
NEPA No

Antenna Structure
Structure Type B - Building
Location (in NAD83 Coordinates - Convert to NAD27)
Lat/Long 42-20-50.0 N 071-04-57.0 W Address 800 BOYLSTON ST PRUDENTIAL BUILDING
City, State BOSTON , MA
Zip 02199 County SUFFOLK

Center of AM Array Position of Tower in Array
Heights (meters)
Elevation of Site Above Mean Sea Level Overall Height Above Ground (AGL)
3.6 276.4
Overall Height Above Mean Sea Level Overall Height Above Ground w/o Appurtenances
280.0 228.4
Painting and Lighting Specifications
FCC Paragraphs 1, 3, 11, 21

FAA Notification
FAA Study 96-ANE-0465-OE FAA Issue Date 11/05/1996

Owner & Contact Information
FRN 0019064120 Owner Entity Type
Owner
BP Prudential Acquisition LLC
Attention To: Andrew Mauck
800 Boylston Street, Suite 1900
BOSTON , MA 02199
P: (617)236-2345

Contact
Bertoni , Joe
800 Boylston Street, Suite 1900
Boston , MA 02199-8103
P: (617)236-2345
all the heights are in meters

converting to ft:
Elevation of Site Above Mean Sea Level 3.6 -- sidewalk on Boylston St. 11.8 ft above MSL
Overall Height Above Ground (AGL) 276.4 -- top of the antenna from sidewalk 906.8 ft.
Overall Height Above Mean Sea Level 280.0 -- top of antenna 918.6 ft above MSL
Overall Height Above Ground w/o Appurtenances 228.4 -- top of Pru above ground 749.3 ft
Overall Height Above MSL w/o Appurtenances 232 -- top of Pru above MSL 761.2 ft
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I just hope the crown is lit even though there has been no news, rumors, renders, or anything else saying it will be.
 
i wouldn't be surprised if, like MT, the concern about complaints from those paying for the absolute most expensive penthouse units makes a lighted crown prohibitive.

although if (again like MT) the roof is surrounded by a non-roofed mechanical screen/penthouse then you could have the interior of that topmost space lit, with the lighting facing up and not out. wish MT would do that.

although maybe the concern would be with distracting airplanes/pilots(?). i feel like a solution could be arrived at that wouldn't upset the ultra-rich penthouse-dwellers OR the FAA.

whenever i visit other cities -- including those considerably smaller and less important than boston -- i'm shocked and disappointed by how "dark" our skyline is. i know i've read others say they like the dark (and therefore serious/mysterious/distinctive) boston skyline, but it really just seems very out-of-date to me.
 
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