Franklin Park - White Stadium Renovation
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These days there’s no room for tongue in cheek naming like the Boston Flood. It’s got to be merch, mascots and IP clearance.
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put it up to a fan contest like they do for lots of expansion teams in other leagues. it'll save public face.
The owners of the team are too far gone - they’re lost. Obviously, these are ”committee/lawyer” types. Seeing this apology now makes clear how THESE were the owners who picked the disastrous original team name. Just look at the tortured verbiage of this apology letter to the public. Simply READ their words in that statement - - - it‘s as if they are from a different planet and are desperately attempting to communicate with the earthlings.
”We are launching a deliberate process through which we will seek out, listen to, and reflect on input about our team name from fans, supporters and a group of advisers assembled to reflect a diverse range of voices and perspectives”.
Yikes - - - if THAT doesn’t get normal humanoids running /screaming in the opposite direction, I don’t know what will.
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From the moment they announced Bos Nation FC, I've wondered whether they intentionally picked a bad name to generate attention. I'm no marketing person, but isn't any kind of buzz seen as valuable? Generating all that heat over the name probably did a lot to get the existence of a NWPSL franchise noticed in ways it hadn't been before.
It's possible that it was intentionally bad, but that's a huge gamble just to generate some attention. Especially for a brand new team. You know what they say about first impressions. Having a name and clear branding ready to go at the launch is pretty important for a team trying to gain a foothold in a market like Boston. My guess is that it was a truly earnest effort but it was undertaken in a bubble which probably included team leadership and an external marketing consultant with a demand for a name/branding that's "inclusive" with "broad appeal" and "connected to Boston." The marketing firm gladly took the money and provided a reasonably persuasive explanation about how "'Bos' ties the team to Boston, 'Nation' encompasses supporters from all over the world and all walks of life, and 'FC' clearly establishes that this is a football club." And rather than second guess the so-called experts and test this with real people, they took the so-called experts at face value and went with it.
It sounds like they hired a new and different PR/marketing firm that's going to basically do the same thing albeit with at least the illusion of fan involvement. The statement reads like a marketing pitch to senior execs, not a real attempt to engage with actual fans. So my hopes are not high that this is going to get much better.
Lol when I lived in Worcester during Obama #1 there was a big protest against the ACA which was the height of the whole Tea Party nonsense, and they had a giant coffin that said "The Individual" on it. That's dumber than Lorax, but agree, dressing up in costume is dumb as shit. And ultra bourgeois, too... Gugh.
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That whole Tea Party foolishness was goofy. I wouldn’t compare that to a communist activist dressing up like the Lorax. It’s also not bourgeois. NIMBY? Sure. Bougie? Not necessarily.
On a related note, if anyone wants to be a solider in the Franklin Park Defenders, here’s your chance!
I don’t mean bougie, I mean bourgeois. Like, the people who dress up like characters from books invariably come from privileged backgrounds and got liberal arts educations. Look, nothing wrong with that; that’s me too, but I would not go broadcasting that in such a manner. I guarantee you the woman in the Lorax suit fits that demographic to a T… and the gulf between someone who does that, versus someone who actually can speak in the language of the real community, is a core reason behind the victories of Trump. This stuff runs deep. What I mean is: that person dressing as a Lorax was doing it because they know how to speak to people who go on archboston. That’s not the masses and not an appeal to anyone other than a very specific socioeconomic-cultural cadre. She was preaching to the choir, but the problem is that the choir in this country thinks it’s “the people”, and it ain’t.
Now, the Tea Party was truly dumb… so please don’t interpret my trashing of entitled middle class people who at least think, in their limited, hypocritical ways, that they speak for the best interests of the downtrodden, that I was comparing those with no functioning brain and no education, to those with an excess of both.
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I know exactly what you meant by that word. Which - to your point - has merit most of the time and it could very well be the case with the Franklin Park Defenders. They could be part of the Bourgeois but I don’t see that here. I see reactionary members of a community who are well-meaning in nature. Their approach might be up for debate.I don’t mean bougie, I mean bourgeois. Like, the people who dress up like characters from books invariably come from privileged backgrounds and got liberal arts educations. Look, nothing wrong with that; that’s me too, but I would not go broadcasting that in such a manner. I guarantee you the woman in the Lorax suit fits that demographic to a T… and the gulf between someone who does that, versus someone who actually can speak in the language of the real community, is a core reason behind the victories of Trump. This stuff runs deep. What I mean is: that person dressing as a Lorax was doing it because they know how to speak to people who go on archboston. That’s not the masses and not an appeal to anyone other than a very specific socioeconomic-cultural cadre. She was preaching to the choir, but the problem is that the choir in this country thinks it’s “the people”, and it ain’t.
Now, the Tea Party was truly dumb… so please don’t interpret my trashing of entitled middle class people who at least think, in their limited, hypocritical ways, that they speak for the best interests of the downtrodden, that I was comparing those with no functioning brain and no education, to those with an excess of both.
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Cost of Boston's part of proposed new White Stadium jumps 80%
The Globe reports the city is now expecting to have to pay $91 million for its part of the proposed White Stadium reconstruction, up from its initial estimate of $50 million.
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A wise man once said...
But seriously, rebuilding the stadium to make it nicer for local HS football teams seems like a good idea.
But I think the women's team would have a better time if they were in a state of the art stadium that will (supposedly) be built in Everett.
Perhaps that's the same Wise Man who is advising Wu! That Wise Man should buy himself a calendar:
The sharing agreement restricts BPS HS football teams access to the field mid November through March - those teams do not play football in December, January, February or March.
$50 million taxpayer for an excellent facility that belongs to BPS 365 days per year > $91 million taxpayer money for an excellent facility that belongs to BPS 4 months per year (and only one week during football season).
Wu should stop pissing on the taxpayers' heads while claiming it is rain. At this point it’s just insulting to everyone’s intelligence.
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<------This wannabe wise man would love that type of cushy job, but alas I'm not qualified and I don't live anywhere near the city.
Still, it bothers me to see money getting pissed away on a questionable investment that doesn't benefit the city.
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To be fair, a school district of Boston's size in Texas would be spending 3-4 times this on a football stadium and probably doing it several times. $91 million for one stadium for all the city's high schools isn't ridiculous, but I agree the money could be better spent (including on athletic fields at the actual schools).
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As someone who has gone hard in the paint on Boston, I don’t think that it’s fair to pin this on Wu. The increasing costs are mere circumstantial and will only exacerbate with the impending tariffs.
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Considering that the Globe's publisher is one of the team owners, you can be certain that it knows everything about it. Raises the question, though, about whether the team is still committed to White Stadium. The Globe is at least partly pushing the idea that the stadium isn't necessary. Maybe that's editorial independence, but it certainly makes me wonder.
Absolutely .... and that Texas football stadium would be available to the school......for the actual football season (and the rest of the year).
This is like giving the schools ice skating privileges on an outdoor lake from May to August.
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