General MBTA Topics (Multi Modal, Budget, MassDOT)

shmessy

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Strangely the new Orange Line trains kept his voicing which must have been a completely new recording as they are the first orange line vehicles with automatic announcements, but the new GL didn't get him even though they already have recorded green line announcements. Mystery to me. The new green lines robotic "stand clear of the closing doors" is very jarring I feel like Frank would do it much better

https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/cqc9hi
 

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Also I hate to say it but these trains have a much larger dwell time and it's causing problems. I now see them in service near daily and every single time they have been the leading train of a three car bunch, with two older trainsets stuck behind them. The doors close so much slower, the mirrors take forever to close and even then they seem to take off slower and accelerate slower.
There's a guy on railroad.net who has been talking about this with quite some alarm for at least six months. He thinks the longer dwell time is going to add significantly to trip times, and he's probably not wrong about that. He has done lots of sample measurements and the new cars are consistently 30-45 seconds slower in leaving the platform.
 

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Interesting to me that the commuter rail map they used is, in fact, the one from Wikipedia.
 

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Looks like @F-Line to Dudley is gonna have to change his username.

Somehow I doubt the old name is going to fall out of popular usage that quickly. This is of course the city where "Traffic on the 3's" still every 10 minutes on-the-dot namechecks 93 between Canton-Braintree as "Route 128" when that hasn't been factually accurate in 23 years. Accumulated mindshare drains very slowwwwwly here when it comes to wayfinding placemarkers.

I wonder if they are going to subtext the new signage with "Dudley" in the white strip underneath the primary station-name color strip. By Cambridge Seven design standards for the system that is still the ruling standard for "backwards compatibility" when station names have changed to ref the old name on primary signage. See DTX still subtexed as "Washington", JFK still subtexted as "Columbia", Kendall signage still subtexting the very short-lived "Cambridge Center" name that never stuck, GC => "Scollay", Hynes => "Auditorium", and so on.
 

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^ I wonder how many people still call it "Yawkey."
Probably most. It's still there on majority of system signage, and if the most recent schedule revision didn't change anyone's train schedule they're still carrying around a paper schedule that says it.

On signage renewal period it's going to take several years to flush that one out of vernacular.
 

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I still hear Hynes/ICA in my head
Probably because Frank's voice was edited to clip out the "ICA" when it moved to the Seaport. The enunciation clearly betrays that there used to be something else after "Hynes Convention Center" because he isn't naturally starting an exhale at the end of that name when it cuts. Usually when they record a bunch of discrete human-spoken words to robo-string together by computer or program the robo-voice to do it all virtual they have to bank separate recordings of words based on beginning, middle, or end slotting in the spoken string otherwise the split-second breath pauses sound all weird and unnatural. Happens so fast in natural speech we don't ever notice it's there...until you hear robo-speech where it isn't there and it instantaneously sounds jarring and wrong.
 

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WCVB did a couple videos showing off the inside of the MBTA control center downtown. It's a pretty shallow dive even by TV news standards but it's the most I've ever gotten to see inside other than just a picture or two.


 

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Some procurement milestones. . .
  • Type 9 order is past the 50% mark in acceptances: 13 in-service, 11 to go. Mysteriously, car 3906 is still AWOL while all other sequential numbers to _13 are in-service.
  • 40-foot bus primary procurement is now 105 in-service, 89 to go (then the +60 bonus order kicking in).
  • New Flyer DL40F straight-diesel 40-footer midlife overhaul program is down to its last bus and should wrap this week.
  • F40PH-3C locomotive rebuild (37 units total): 8 rebuilds in-service (>20%), 12 out for rebuild (2 in-testing). If you're counting by paint job that's 8 (soon to be 10) new rebuilds out on the road in the sharp new purple nose with black lining, 14 remaining in-service non-rebuilds in the old paint, 1 non-rebuild in the old paint with 13-years-dated "Greenbush Opening" nose detail (see user Java King's board avatar), and 2 non-rebuilds in experimental MassDOT blue paint (to be going away for the new scheme). Numbers by paint job will probably hit tipping point in next 2 weeks at most, since MPI hasn't announced any work slowdowns yet.
  • Kawasaki 700-series bi-level coach midlife overhaul program is at 80% completion. 84 completed, including all 1700-series cab cars. 10 trailers away for overhaul, 21 non-rebuild trailers left. They're drawing equally from the 1997-98 and 2001-02 order batches (900-series from '05-06 is not part of this program). Rebuilds are distinguished from non-rebuilds (and the 900-series) by having the new LED destination screens installed inside and out.
  • Neoplan 40-footer bus retirements are at the one-third mark: 145 in-service, 47 retired.
 
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