This is the most asenine thing I've ever read. Having the system maps and wayfinding sinage accurate is part of fixing the T. Leaving up a sign that says something is closed when it isn't is basically defered maintenance.
As for the announcements... they've been announcing government center being closed at Park St and State for two years. Modifying that to say it's open again for a few weeks isn't something new, it's a modification of an existing practice.
I usually only see this level of overdefensive OCD backwards logic (that typically turns out to be proven wrong) on RR.net
I agree leaving those up can be considered "deferred maintenance" over time...leaving those up only a day after re-opening hardly qualifies. When a couple of weeks pass, then I'll be right on board with you.
When motorpersons have stopped announcing a closure, that should also be taken as a "modification" of the prior practice of making one. It's not there anymore...that's the change, when not hearing it after 2 years.
I too, usually only see this level of "play MBTA Management" on social media, which typically leads to a group defensiveness backlash. I'll keep with my OCD backwards logic, and others can keep playing "I know what should be done, when it should be done at (not my job) MBTA".
Yup. Asking T employees in each Green Line station with the signs to spend 30 seconds taking each one down is not really a big ask. If it is, covering them with another sign that says "Government Center is now open!" requires the immensely taxing activity of taping a piece of paper over another piece of paper.
Wayfinding is part of the T's job. I can see taking a week to update the maps, since there are thousands. Taking down the signs is a half-hour job per station, max.
I understand your opinion. Can you tell me how many you've asked (& have followed suit)? Also, can you provide me the source of your metrics concerning the 30 minute max per station time to take signage down...but also in relation to staff availability/assignment? As far as the paper-taping option, I can be down for that.
djimpact--not sure how datadyne has been anything other than appropriately upbeat, informative and helpful (have you ever bothered to report something to MBTA so they could address it?).
I never said he wasn't upbeat. I like that there's ideas flowing...I don't see how it's helpful though when ideas are conveyed in a way as to dictate how & when they should be carried out, especially when we're not privy to the pecking order of the hows & whens of the MBTA.
Concerning reporting, yes, I've reported piggyback fare evasions, observed car operational failures & rider harassment. That doesn't mean I told them what they should be doing and how they should be doing it...I was telling them what already happened. It's up to them how to handle it, not me.
1) I don't have enough free time to go hunt them down for all of them. Technically, if I am motivated enough, I can make the time - most can make the time if one is willing to swallow the cost (so for me a waste of a good Saturday). But I am willing to personally take the time to take out a sign. If it one of those stick to the wall, then peel a little off at a time.
2) I'm not that afraid of MBTA police confronting me about an out of date sign. Maybe I'm just hard headed, but yeah. I'm one of those confrontational type if something bothers me enough. I'm mostly tactful enough to not be stupid like immediately get on their face and get myself tased then arrested or something if confronted. But not so afraid that I'll avoid taking down an out of date sign in fear of their wrath. I'm willing to bet on that they won't care (unless it some really big banner and putting extremely amount of visible and public effort).
I must commend your willingness to work for the T for free. I enjoy the service & its culture, but my time is worth more than doing someone's job for them (which some actually do not appreciate), so I can't relate. Same with sign removal...if you don't care about TPD or their interaction, then I wish you luck!
Let it go. You lost.
There are tons of post in this site that you could have decided to fight, and you chose one that it is very insightful and makes tons of sense. Weird.
I'm amused when folks online say "you lost", like there's some imaginary game being played. There's no "loss" in stating opinions, no matter how much you disagree with them (whether me to others, or others to mine). There are those who "lose" though...just not that way. As far as "deciding to fight", that's far from any intent to post. But I guess because my opinions are not in the majority of those in fantasy management, I should be perceived as looking to "pick a fight", right?
