Green Line Extension to Medford & Union Sq

Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

For a moment, I thought you meant F line to Dudley ;)

But you mean F - Market. The Muni Metro maps don't include it, they treat it separately. More of a tourist attraction really. Cool though. I never did find the Boston representative, however.
 
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whoops. got it off of universal hub so i figured it was current.
 
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Route 16 station will be apart of the GLX.

http://www.thesomervillenews.com/archives/26252
Boston MPO approves funding for Route 16 GLX stop
On May 16, 2012, in Latest News, by The News Staff

By Jeremy F. van der Heiden

For years now, the City of Somerville, along with representatives of several other areas in the eastern region of Massachusetts, have fought to expand the Green Line further to reach more residents. Mayor Joseph Curtatone recently announced a victory for this battle, applauding the Boston Region Metropolitan Planning Organization’s (MPO) decision to approve a substantial piece of funding for this transportation project.

According to a release from the Mayor’s office, the MPO recently approved $8.1 million worth of funding to go toward the research, development and construction of a Rt. 16 Green Line stop as part of the Green Line Extension Project (GLX). The vote, nineteen to two in favor of the project, was in support of Governor Deval Patrick’s desire to make this part of the state’s Federal Fiscal Years 2013-2016 Transportation Improvement Project (TIP).

Communications from Massachusetts State Representative Carl Sciortino, 34th Middlesex District, indicate that last year officials were able to establish the project’s foothold in the 2016-2020 Federal Fiscal Years TIP. The recent decision, made at a Boston MPO April 19 meeting, will expedite the project and boast many rewards for those currently living in the target region.

After getting word that the aforementioned meeting might be an integral moment for the success or failure of the project, Representative Sciortino declared a call to action to attend the meeting and exhibit support of the GLX’s Rt. 16 project. Had the most recent decision not been made in its favor, Sciortino believed that it would have been much harder to keep the project alive down the road when the 2016 fiscal year rolled around. Additionally, this would have halted the important developmental operations that must be carried out to solidify the plan, such as further research of the area, surveying of the land, and more.

Had the decision not gone this way, it might have served a finishing blow to the Route 16 extension, as the project, legally, had viewed College Avenue as the terminus. The MPO’s approval sealed the Route 16 stop as one with the entire GLX project, as opposed to a separate project to be created at the overarching programs completion. Many involved believed it would likely never happen if talks would not resume until around 2016.

“It’s important to remember that the Route 16 stop was originally planned to be the terminus because it is ideal,” Representative Sciortino explained. “It’s located in an incredibly dense neighborhood at the intersection of Somerville, Medford, and Arlington, right on the Route 16, Alewife Brook and Mystic River biking-pedestrian pathway, which will be a feature of the stop.”

“The land use at that location has incredible economic development potential, and integrating it into the plan generates revenue back into the area, potentially funding more affordable housing for the neighborhood,” he continued.

Representative Sciortino knew that by keeping consistent and strong pressure on the Boston MPO, as well as showing the huge amount of support for the project that has been around since the beginning of the GLX talks, the region could come out with a victory. He also explained that this was a group effort by a variety of departments and individuals, and expressed his gratitude for these parties’ resolve.

Mayor Curtatone, a key player in this public triumph, described how the Route 16 stop will impact residents across the state.

“This is a project with incredible environmental benefits and for our quality of life, and also has a huge economic upside for the entire Commonwealth, creating tens of thousands of net new jobs and millions of dollars in new revenue,” he explained.

Additionally, Mayor Curtatone noted the strength of those he works with, across the region, to accomplish this goal.

“The whole delegation has been strong advocates and are great partners to work with on this particular project. It was also impressive to have so many members of the public from Arlington, Somerville, Cambridge and Medford coming out, as they have so many times, to support the Green Line Extension,” he said.

The Mayor expressed his gratitude for the MPO’s endorsement as well as the support from MassDOT, and explained that he and the entirety of the delegation will continue to fight to ensure the project’s successful completion.

The project is now in the public hearing phase, while the final hearing regarding the decision will occur before month’s end. More information on this project can be found at the City of Somerville’s website http://www.somervillema.gov/.
 
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Can Curtatone please run for mayor of Boston?
 
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I have to say I'm amazed. I thought Rt 16 was buried a long time ago and given up on. Now if they hurry up and actually build this thing, which I'm now convinced is more important than any expansion possible, maybe when they replace the train bridge over the Mystic they can provision for a West Medford extension. I think that's the real goal of this, to position it for a crossing of the Mystic.
 
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Can Curtatone please run for mayor of Boston?

I wish.

I wouldn't be surprised if he runs for governor or senate or something though, a little down the line.
 
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2nded. But now that he's got the Rt 16 stop, he needs to start pushing them to actually get going on the construction.
 
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STEP has got this proverbial hook-their-testicles-up-to-a-car-battery means of "convincing" down to a science. And that is pretty much what it takes to get this state to stop procrastinating.

I wonder if they're willing to hire themselves out on commission to Lynn after this is done.
 
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STEP has got this proverbial hook-their-testicles-up-to-a-car-battery means of "convincing" down to a science. And that is pretty much what it takes to get this state to stop procrastinating.

I wonder if they're willing to hire themselves out on commission to Lynn after this is done.

I feel like you might be right. It seems that they just know how to get things done.

Is anyone familiar with the organization? What makes them different?
 
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I feel like you might be right. It seems that they just know how to get things done.

Is anyone familiar with the organization? What makes them different?

No magic formula. They are just relentless about calling BS on excuses, so the T learned in a hurry to not show up to meetings evasive and/or unprepared like they usually do when they're paying lip service to inner-city constituents. And they've done a better job than most advocacy groups about staying reasonably focused and not letting their agenda get hijacked by Old Man Yells At Cloud-type NIMBY's who either want nothing at all built ever or want a South Coast-style gimme! gimme! gimme! in return. And that's most definitely been a factor on the Medford side of the border, so they gained some favor and better leverage for holding the state to its promises by doing a good job in-house of controlling the rabble along the route.

The difference between them and Boston is that City Hall and the BRA simply lack the attention span to stay on-point for 10 years straight while they try to wrestle with the state for delivery on promises. Superprojects fizz out with alarming frequency here because there's so much idle fidgeting with plans, mission creep, and communication outages due to power struggles behind the scenes. Eventually they just lose all focus and get bored on the follow-through. The Somerville leadership re: GLX and Orange-Assembly hasn't changed its story on anything in 12 years outside of compromising on the separate Union and Medford branches when Union proved unworkable in a single branch, brokering some Medford-related concessions like trading in the original West Medford terminus and the Winthrop St. stop for Route 16 to quiet the opposition, and bartering the phasing plan to the state to avoid a nasty lawsuit over the delays. That last one has paid off now with 16 funding and build commitment coming through to pre-emptively relieve more of that deadline pressure.

Pressure, time, consistency...and reasonable (by MA standards) amount of self-discipline. You can get almost anything done that way. It's just a sad commentary on how broken state and municipal gov't is that this is somehow seen as an unprecedented thing. It's not. STEP's not perfect by a longshot. But there's a lot to be said for wanting it bad enough to value organizational discipline. Which sort of explains a lot with the spazzes and freeloaders who are sitting at the top of the political food chain in state gov't and in a lot of these town boards. The brainrot's pervasive enough that a decently but hardly extraordinarily organized effort like Somerville's is seen as some sort of fluke occurrence. It's not. There should be a few STEP's getting shit done on some long-term effort of medium-size or larger consequence at any given moment in any given region/quadrant of the state. That's not an unrealistic goal if we could vote/flush a goodly portion of that institutional brainrot out of office.
 
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I'm confused. What does it matter if the T shows up to meetings unprepared? They just bullshit and ignore everything anyway. Does STEP have some kind of leverage to prevent that? And to control the crazy-person NIMBYs?
 
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I'm confused. What does it matter if the T shows up to meetings unprepared? They just bullshit and ignore everything anyway. Does STEP have some kind of leverage to prevent that? And to control the crazy-person NIMBYs?

Stick to the meeting agenda. When the T BS's, say "You came to this meeting to talk about this...you're talking about something else entirely here and dodging the meat of the question." When old man starts yelling at cloud, corral it back on-topic instead of just letting it disintegrate into a free-for-all. You would be amazed at how elusive these kinds of simple-ass organizational things are at 95% of town-level meetings because the organizers are just sitting on the board for political vanity and don't actually give a crap about anything except "my rabble is better than yours because it's mine, and I'm holding the gavel here so *pffffbbbbt*!." Stick to the script, stay on the same page, and have enough personal investment in the goal. That's it. No magic powers.


So here's one subtle example where they've held the T to a concrete answer. . .

The Union Branch was a compromise because they couldn't include that stop all in one line. This is the reason why Union's a stub and doesn't go further to Porter. Ultimately with it being relegated to the Fitchburg Line ROW and not part of the mainline getting the most service the city has an interest--for Union's future as a destination spot--in ensuring that it can be linked in the future to somewhere that will get "destination"-level service. i.e. Porter Sq. even though because of the two-branch compromise that extra leg is beyond the scope of this project (if it were 2 branches from the start, Porter would've been included...but, late--and necessary--engineering compromise). So they ask the T if the Union station design allows that as a future consideration.
-- [Evasive answer.]
-- Ask again.
-- [Evasive sorta-but-not-really affirmative answer.]
-- Make it a meeting discussion point to discuss how the station design will not prevent a future extension.
-- [Show pretty pictures of the station design. Make vague reference to engineering challenges, station rebuild, blah, blah, blah.]
-- "That's not what you said before? Can't you build it so you don't have to rebuild it."
-- [. . .]
-- Codify it into the project's mission statement that the Union construction shall not preclude future link to Porter. Cite health of Somerville Ave. corridor, etc., etc.
-- [Show revised pretty pictures depicting the lower level and how punching through the overpass abutment allows extension and reconfiguration of the lower level without destroying the station.]
-- "Are you SURE this time???"
-- [*nodding*]


That's one of many. They repeated this process with every other detail the T skimped over in the renderings at every other station, especially related to the Route 16 phasing plan to seal off all the escape options the T had for terminating at Medford Hillside and washing their hands of the last commitment. And also making sure nothing about the ROW design blocked the promised Somerville Community Path extension (separate project), making sure the station bus connection features were robust enough that they'd never be able to get away with eviscerating the city's bus routes, and so on and so on. And with the Medford NIMBY's they had to do years worth of rinse/repeat reassurances that this would not cause an on-street parking apocalypse in-town and debunk over and over again the usual NIMBY hysteria about "undesireables" with factual counterpoints where the complaint was bunk, individual studies of the areas around the station stops to show how each wouldn't turn into a carbon copy of Davis, and the concessions like Winthrop St. (tough loss because that was the easiest bus connection from the GL to Medford Sq., but it was the concession that quieted the remaining opposition below the threshold of being a drag on the project).


Mundane stuff. Show of hands as to how many posters have to do things like that with co-workers or customers at their own jobs. It's only rare in Mass. politics because the don't-give-a-damns are clogging up the offices looking out for #1 and no longer have any interest in consensus-building that doesn't involve a blind payout to the constituencies that best help them look out for #1. Get personally invested in a goal--like, um, it's your job to--and keeping focus is not hard.
 
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Good stuff. Though I still think the T could get away with doing what it wants, unless these minutes are somehow actionable in a lawsuit or some such...

I'm thinking about attending the McCarthy overpass meeting to observe and see how things go with that.
 
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Good stuff. Though I still think the T could get away with doing what it wants, unless these minutes are somehow actionable in a lawsuit or some such...

I'm thinking about attending the McCarthy overpass meeting to observe and see how things go with that.

Transit Commitment. You bet there's a lawsuit involved if they don't build this. Unlike some of the other abandoned commitments (Arborway, Washington St. "equal-or-better" replacement service) they were able to weasel out of, they weren't able to do a divide/conquer/obfuscate here because of STEP's vigilance and the Somerville-area pols backing it in lockstep. Something sadly absent in Boston, and especially with some Boston neighborhoods over others.

At some point it becomes a cost/benefit thing of whether it's just easier to do it already instead of spending escalating amounts of energy with the weasel-out tactics. These aren't diabolical forces of malice Somerville is up against at the state level. These are lazy, lazy bureaucrats and politicians. Always bet on the lazy way out...then work the system so the path of least resistance for them is the goal you're shooting for. This new Route 16 funding commitment pretty much is that vindication for GLX proponents...that "FINE! FINE! If I build it will you leave me the @#$% alone already!?!?!" moment where the state finally came to grips with what its path of least resistance was.
 
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Transit Commitment. You bet there's a lawsuit involved if they don't build this. Unlike some of the other abandoned commitments (Arborway, Washington St. "equal-or-better" replacement service) they were able to weasel out of, they weren't able to do a divide/conquer/obfuscate here because of STEP's vigilance and the Somerville-area pols backing it in lockstep. Something sadly absent in Boston, and especially with some Boston neighborhoods over others.

At some point it becomes a cost/benefit thing of whether it's just easier to do it already instead of spending escalating amounts of energy with the weasel-out tactics. These aren't diabolical forces of malice Somerville is up against at the state level. These are lazy, lazy bureaucrats and politicians. Always bet on the lazy way out...then work the system so the path of least resistance for them is the goal you're shooting for. This new Route 16 funding commitment pretty much is that vindication for GLX proponents...that "FINE! FINE! If I build it will you leave me the @#$% alone already!?!?!" moment where the state finally came to grips with what its path of least resistance was.

So this is the really, really important part of this analysis. Unified community presence, with a couple of politicians who happen to listen to their constituents/see the benefit of transit expansion.



Where else is there a combination of these factors? These will be where we can get expansions to transit.
 
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I wonder if they're willing to hire themselves out on commission to Lynn after this is done.

I was just thinking about this the other day. Once GLX is done, I hope some of them will assist in creating a Lynn group for BLX.
 
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I was just thinking about this the other day. Once GLX is done, I hope some of them will assist in creating a Lynn group for BLX.

Shit...they may need it for the Casey Overpass teardown that's already been approved:

Hizzonah wants a do-ovah of the drive-ovah. But doesn't want any responsibility for it. But will still tell anyone in earshot he doesn't approve of what the people chose. Because it wasn't what he would've chosen...today, just now.
is why we can't have nice things. The seat of power has the attention span of a gnat and doesn't care which constituencies get left in the lurch when he gets bored and/or cranky.
 
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Shit.
is why we can't have nice things. The seat of power has the attention span of a gnat and doesn't care which constituencies get left in the lurch when he gets bored and/or cranky.

I don't think this is universally true. While it does seem that the Mayor lacks interest or is inattentive to transit needs, there is an obvious counterpoint in his advocacy of cycling and delivery on associated infrastructure. We are only a few years away from a comprehensive bike lane network that truly covers the entire city. That has required long term leadership.

Now, if only he were just as interested in OLX, F-Line, and Fairmont HRRT.
 

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