Green Line Extension to Medford & Union Sq

Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

LA has 3x as many people as Boston's urban core, so given the size difference, the bus riderships are pretty comparable at 30-33% of the total population.

I do think it will take a lot of time for their rapid transit to grow, but that's kind of the point. It seems silly to give so much federal funding to expand a network that is going to take decades for LA to grow into when Boston gets virtually none and already has the density and pent up demand for better rapid transit.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

There's a station planning meeting tomorrow at the Armory on Highland.

http://www.somervillestep.org/2012/10/station_area_pl.html

I can't make it, but for any of you enthusiastic Green Line followers who can, please share a debrief. Also, the timeline for Phase 1 of this project has construction starting as "early as the fall." As in, next month. I know Capuano says that's a false start (the work being done in the next two years is bridge work that would need to be done even without the GLX) but it would be a hopeful sign to the community that this whole thing isn't a fantasy.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Correction: It's a station AREA planning meeting held by the city, i.e., where will the Starbucks go once we have trolleys rolling in.

Of course, that makes it even more appealing to the "let's build a better X" faction of this forum. Maybe someone will show screen captures of their SimCity Somerville renderings.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

As the MBTA continues to do nothing, somehow cities all over the country - from Charlotte to Salt Lake to Mesa - have found the resources to expand their light rail systems...

Charlotte wins $580M from feds for light-rail extension
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlott...2/10/charlotte-wins-580m-from-obama-feds.html

Mesa gets federal funding for light-rail extension
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/10/12/20121012mesa-light-rail-federal-funding.html

Central Subway gets $942 million in federal funding
http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=1756319&title=Central%20Subway%20gets%20$942%20million%20in%20federal%20funding

White House fast-tracks Southwest light rail line
http://www.minnpost.com/glean/2012/10/white-house-fast-tracks-southwest-light-rail-project

Airport light rail, FrontRunner lines to open early
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...Runner-airport-TRAX-lines-still-on-track.html

Houston's METRO marks progress on light-rail expansion project
http://www.progressiverailroading.c...rogress-on-lightrail-expansion-project--32950
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

As the MBTA continues to do nothing, somehow cities all over the country - from Charlotte to Salt Lake to Mesa - have found the resources to expand their light rail systems...

Charlotte wins $580M from feds for light-rail extension
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlott...2/10/charlotte-wins-580m-from-obama-feds.html

Mesa gets federal funding for light-rail extension
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/10/12/20121012mesa-light-rail-federal-funding.html

Central Subway gets $942 million in federal funding
http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=1756319&title=Central%20Subway%20gets%20$942%20million%20in%20federal%20funding

White House fast-tracks Southwest light rail line
http://www.minnpost.com/glean/2012/10/white-house-fast-tracks-southwest-light-rail-project

Airport light rail, FrontRunner lines to open early
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...Runner-airport-TRAX-lines-still-on-track.html

Houston's METRO marks progress on light-rail expansion project
http://www.progressiverailroading.c...rogress-on-lightrail-expansion-project--32950

Funny thought. Judging by the headlines, what's driving these projects is federal money. I'm going to assume this is indirectly cause by having a Democrat for a president. Republicans are historically known to be hostile to public transit, especially the last president if my understanding of the history is correct.

However, Massachusetts is enjoying roughly none of the Democrat friendliness to transit.

Therefore, I find it fitting if we manage to send a former Massachusetts governor for president. If Romney lives to the reputation of Republicans, at least if we can't enjoy more public transit, at least the rest of the country won't either.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Funny thought. Judging by the headlines, what's driving these projects is federal money. I'm going to assume this is indirectly cause by having a Democrat for a president. Republicans are historically known to be hostile to public transit, especially the last president if my understanding of the history is correct.

However, Massachusetts is enjoying roughly none of the Democrat friendliness to transit.

Therefore, I find it fitting if we manage to send a former Massachusetts governor for president. If Romney lives to the reputation of Republicans, at least if we can't enjoy more public transit, at least the rest of the country won't either.

You kind of have to want it and advocate for it. These cities are getting the investment because their pols are unified at working the squeaky wheel.

MA is getting ample funding for the Knowledge Corridor, Downeaster, and freight upgrades to CSX and Pan Am/Patriot Corridor. What's the common thread on those? Amtrak, and private freight carriers. You don't see the MBTA's name attached to those initiatives, even though they're siphoning off them with the Fitchburg and Haverhill upgrades and Worcester Line sale. Yes, there have been exceptions (Fairmount), but look at where the spoils are going regionally. It's a far cry from what RIDOT and CTDOT have gotten and will continue to get for instate commuter rail (dear god...even that awful busway in CT!) because every stakeholder is on-fucking-point about going for it.

What are they pushing? South Coast Rail, South Coast Rail, South Coast Rail. A project with no private or intercity stakeholders, which the feds have shown little interest in batting an eyelash at. Where's Patrick's facetime with fed officials? Dan Malloy in CT made multiple trips to D.C. to pitch NHHS and the busway to Roy LaHood's face, and even invited the normally hostile Republican members of the House transportation committee to come visit for some wooing...and surprise endorsements for NHHS from the Congresscritters holding the purse. Rhode Island does the same. NNEPRA is already fiercely beating the drum for Auburn as the next Downeaster extension before Brunswick is even open. Vermont's already bagged track rehab funding for a Montrealer restoration, and has their Congresscritters pushing Customs reform legislation to streamline passenger rail border crossings.

Every New England state except third-world New Hampshire is running circles around our leadership on the visibility front. Act like you're only half-interested, and you don't even get half-funded. Why should the feds fund our rapid transit system when the T and City Hall telegraph their passive-aggressiveness and reluctance to move on their own proposals? There's 10 cities and transit districts acting way hungrier and more coordinated than us.



GLX is a remarkable story in context. Beacon Hill, the Governor, and the T have been giving it relatively muted play all along...but the local advocacy has been fierce enough to push it almost alone (even Capuano, in between scaring the shit out of everyone with his period "take what you can get and forget the rest" comments). Effort matters. A lot.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

There's a meeting next Wednesday to discuss current status. Meanwhile the state said construction of the first phase of this project would begin by the end of this month. Here's the current schedule: http://greenlineextension.eot.state.ma.us/documents/about/FactSheets/Critical_Path_Schedule.pdf


Dear Green Line Extension Friends,

On Tuesday, October 30th, the Green Line Extension Project Team will hold a GLX Design Working Group meeting from 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm to introduce the new preliminary engineering and final design team, as well update the committee on progress on the FTA New Start application and the schedule moving forward. The meeting will be held at the at 51 Winthrop Street in Medford. The building can be reached via MBTA bus routes 80, 94, and 96. Parking is available on Boston Avenue along Capen Street Extension, in the Dowling Parking Garage and surface lots near Miller Hall and Hill Hall (Tufts University buildings). Accessible parking is available next to the building. If you need access or language accommodations to fully participate in this meeting, please contact Karen Arpino-Shaffer at 617-426-9570 ext 114 or info@glxinfo.com at least one week before the event.

More information about the project its available on the Green Line Extension website at: www.mass.gov/greenlineextension.

As always, if you have any questions on the Green line Extension Project, you can email us at info@glxinfo.com.


Thank you for your interest and participation.

The Green Line Extension Team
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Somehow I feel if Mass had a larger population and were a swing state, we would see a little bit more love from the Obama administration. I have to think the move to give money to Charlotte is a pure political move.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

You kind of have to want it and advocate for it.

Where's Patrick's facetime with fed officials?

It's been weeks since I thought of Governor Patrick. He's still around then?
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Tangentially related from the Mayor's endorsement of Warren:

Elizabeth Warren knows that Boston's Roads, Schools and Public Transit matter

Life in Boston runs on our roads, bridges, public transportation and utilities, and our quality of life suffers when we can’t get the attention we need from Washington to help support them. Elizabeth Warren’s detailed plan provides an influx of direct federal funding to Boston Public Schools, and sets aside $850 million for transportation, including Logan Airport and the T, as well as giving mass transit commuters the same tax break drivers receive.

http://mayormenino.com/warren4boston.html

She could definitely prove to be an ally for the GLX.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Enjoy your empty promises while they last. My wife has known Liz for ~30 years and doesn't have many nice things to say outside of ruthless legal maneuvering.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Enjoy your empty promises while they last. My wife has known Liz for ~30 years and doesn't have many nice things to say outside of ruthless legal maneuvering.

Care to tell a little bit. Right now, all I have to go on is she sounds like a fitting person economically (I lean libertarian/conservative when it comes to economy most of the time, but I believe some regulation and structuring incentives to not screw us over - thus Warren sounds like the better candidate than Brown who will either be bought by corporations or act in favor of them in the name of free markets (basically between regulation that have a chance of being helpful or free markets implemented in a way that have almost certainty of ripping everyone off - I prefer for the former) but end up causing Cronyism).

All of the above is null if Warren is just as bought up as Brown or she won't act on her advertised economic philosophy or just spend all her energy on her advertised social views (which I'm not so much of a fan).
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Care to tell a little bit. Right now, all I have to go on is she sounds like a fitting person economically (I lean libertarian/conservative when it comes to economy most of the time, but I believe some regulation and structuring incentives to not screw us over - thus Warren sounds like the better candidate than Brown who will either be bought by corporations or act in favor of them in the name of free markets (basically between regulation that have a chance of being helpful or free markets implemented in a way that have almost certainty of ripping everyone off - I prefer for the former) but end up causing Cronyism).

All of the above is null if Warren is just as bought up as Brown or she won't act on her advertised economic philosophy or just spend all her energy on her advertised social views (which I'm not so much of a fan).

They're both going to be bought. Elizabeth Warren is no Jill Stein, and she's already under the guiding wing of the fascist Democrat party, just like Scott Brown is under the wing of the fascist Republican party. They're both so repulsive.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Oh good.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

she's already under the guiding wing of the fascist Democrat party, just like Scott Brown is under the wing of the fascist Republican party.

Bold move going double Hitler there!
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

They're both going to be bought. Elizabeth Warren is no Jill Stein, and she's already under the guiding wing of the fascist Democrat party, just like Scott Brown is under the wing of the fascist Republican party. They're both so repulsive.

If they are both bought, I rather have the one who have a larger chance of getting us better transit in this context (thought bring other things to context, a better chance to push transit may not balance out).
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

It's too bad we cannot elect Ron Paul both POTUS and US Senator from MA... and of course Rand is already spoken for. Does he have any other children?
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

It's too bad we cannot elect Ron Paul both POTUS and US Senator from MA... and of course Rand is already spoken for. Does he have any other children?

I'm not sure you're really serious, considering the forum is about architecture and infrastructure, but Ron Paul does have a few more kids. None of them besides Rand seem interested in running.


Also to note, while I like Ron Paul (at least I know he is not bought, so I can actually take his views seriously), the view on spending is probably not good for transit expansion. Unlike most republicans, it does not also means transferring that money to highway sprawl while also saying transit needs to pay it own way. His views is likely (and if successfully able to implement) transfer a lot of duties to individual states. Which for Massachusetts, being one of the more economically prosperous ones, a change from our taxes to federal to dole out to more going to our own state is arguably a new win for us. Probably death the transit projects in Texas.
 
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