Harvard - Allston Campus

I may have some of these addresses wrong..

but for now here's Brighton Mills... funky sky

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across the street (to the north) are these, around 385 Western

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the skating rink, with 365 Westen (not Harvard property) to the left and the Days Inn to the right

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the rink from the opposite corner

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some elevation courtesy of the pedestrian bridge

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And now for the buildings lining Soldiers Field Road

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laugh out loud

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and the CBS station

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Now back to Western Ave, looking east from Everett Street. Everything you see on the north (left) side is Harvard owned

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looking west

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The city-owned park

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The best work or architecture to be found in the area

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more Harvard property.. this sits at the northern end of Barry's Corner

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And two of Barry's Corner, looking west

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and south (where's the corner?? there ain't no corner nowhere!)

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Now for a digression into the Charlesview apartments, looking at them from Barry's Corner

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one last one, from Barry's Corner sort of looking down Western

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The last two buildings on the north side of Western Ave before you get to the Harvard Business School

135.. some kind of a telecommunications equipment building

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and 125, WGBH's old studios

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And now on to the Science Complex construction

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the next three are from the same viewpoint, panning from east to west

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and the next four are from the same viewpoint

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looking east

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back on Western Ave, looking east

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one more of Barry's Corner, looking north

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and on an unrelated note, these two houses are going up at the east corner of Franklin and Weitz

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Alright here we go.

This trip starts at the west end of Western Ave.

What's this building's story?

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That once served as stables for State Police horses. For all I know it could still be but it looks like it has fallen into disuse. There is still a State Police building behind it, fronting onto the ramp for Soldier's Field Road.
 
kz, thanks for the great pictorial tour. Several bits of additional info:

This is from a list of Harvard owned property outside of Cambridge thats looks to have been prepared circa 2000. Architect in bold.

Western Ave:
*125 W G B H broadcasting station 2-st 1965 (a) Stubbins Hugh ?135 New England book depository library 5-st 1941 ?219 (North Harvard st 145) Harvard printing plant & storage 1-st 1962 (a) The architects collaborative ?230 Harvardview office building 1984-1985 (a) Brown Benj I & Daltas Spero P

N. Harvard St.
175 Harvard office building 1-st 1956 [a] Bastille & Halsey ..........1957
?garages

(The building you liked so much on Western Ave just west of Barry's Corner):
?31+ Teele hall publishing building 3-st 1969 ..........1969 (occupant) Harvard business review (a) Kubitz & Pepi

Teele Hall also now seems to house other offices and functions associated with the Harvard Business School.
 
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Harvard does not own the WBZ studios, do they? I'd bet those aren't going anywhere.

Somewhere around here is the world's first Staples store, which I also suspect is staying around.
 
Nice photo tour, kz. I really love those old police stables. That complex has a lot of potential.
 
^^ Which will be wasted by too much open space and suburban design.

Bah, don't mind me, the Greenway thing fouled my mood this morning.
 
Man... I don't want to slag a neighborhood, but that's one of the more grim and depressing sections of Boston, if you ask me. I'd hate to see nothing but low-rise suburban office park-type buildings go up surrounded by space-wasting patches of neglected green lawns, but even that would be an improvement over a lot of what's there.
 
^ Agreed. This was one of the least fun photo tours I've ever gone on.
 
Harvard does not own the WBZ studios, do they? I'd bet those aren't going anywhere.

Somewhere around here is the world's first Staples store, which I also suspect is staying around.
Ron, rumor and less than rampant speculation has it that Harvard m might buy the WBZ studios with WBZ moving to other Harvard owned property not that distant from the new WGBH.

The Skating Club buildings looks but one step away from being a derelict relic. I have to think that Harvard and the Skating Club must have had conversations about that land.

The founder or one of the founders of Staples is a fan of Harvard basketball. Maybe there'll be a Staples Arena II.
 
I agree 100%. Open lawns have no place in a city outside parks. And these are not public parks in any way. The open space the community is clamoring for will go completely unused by anyone but the few people who live in the abutting buildings and who will only rarely want to go outside to read the Globe for two hours on a Sunday afternoon. No one from the side streets in the neighborhoods is going to feel welcome to come on over, unfold the picnic blanket, strike up his radio and start throwing a frisbee around. Open space of this sort is almost always designed to intimidate passersby and anyone suspected of not being an owner in the adjacent building.

aquaman, you have a fan: http://allston02134.blogspot.com/2008/03/charlesview-letter-dodges-problems-with.html
 
A surfeit of open space will make this development, like everything that happens in Tommy "Mumbles" Menino's Boston, a disaster.

Look at how open space is proportioned in any successful urban area: In New York, it comes in the form of a small number of well-defined and judiciously spread-out parks surrounded by high-rises and densely built residential areas whose inhabitants can read their papers and eat their lunches in the park in summer and use them for skating in the winter. In Boston, we have the Comm Ave Mall and the Public Garden/Common -- again, oases amidst dense neighborhoods. In Vienna, you'll find open space along the Danube or in carefully delineated parks throughout the city; and in Paris onetime royal gardens and hunting preserves provide residents with serenity and beauty.

But consider open space's failures: housing projects like in New York's Brownsville neighborhood in Brooklyn -- new homes were spaced out far from one another there in the 1960s, breaking the street grid and creating "leafy" superblocks championed by Robert Moses and his ilk. Today, 17 blocks in that area cost the government $17 million per year to incarcerate residents -- so-called "million-dollar blocks." The surrounding blocks, also extremely low-income and often consisting of housing projects but older tenements that have remained part of the densely built street grid, have significantly smaller prison rates.

The sprawling suburbs of Paris, full of ill-defined open spaces between buildings, are now home to frequent riots. Vienna's outskirts, bursting with -- you guessed it -- open space meant to make life better for low-income residents, are similarly miserable.

And in Boston many of the most dangerous, economically depressed areas are low-density neighborhoods.

Open space is a wonderful thing in moderation, and when clearly defined as a park. But when it takes the form of a half-baked suburban lawn around apartment complexes, it overpowers buildings, tears apart communities, chases out would-be residents, and the neighborhoods are left to rot. A city's vibrancy and vitality comes from its density and the bustle and activity that follow. Fill buildings with lots of awkward, ill-defined and uncontained open space and you wind up with Lexington, minus the single thing that makes Lexington attractive: single-family homes the total privacy they offer for families.

Moreover, it is no coincidence that apartment complexes with yards age very poorly and lose their value and appeal to middle-class families more quickly than apartments in dense neighborhoods: surrounded by grass, when their design becomes unfashionable there's no way of hiding it. When apartment blocks are built as part of a dense community, the stores they house and buildings around them of different styles mask them as they age.

What do you, Harry, and other residents of the area want from the abundant open space you seem to be demanding? Do you want a place to walk? Do you want cleaner air? Do you want a place for kids to play?

People don't walk in poorly planned urban areas: a grassy area is infinitely less interesting than a densely built one, and there's little protection from the elements. Would you prefer a stroll through Harvard Square or Barry's Corner? That has little to do with the architecture, which in Harvard Square can be shabby, and everything to do with the neighborhood's fundamental density.

Clean air comes from trees, not grass: Plant trees in a dense neighborhood and you'll do your lungs better than by creating urban pastures. And a miserable strip of grass alongside a building is no place for a kid to play. Kickball, baseball, homerun derby, soccer, 500 -- all these games are better played in a park. If a neighborhood is judicious in building parks, you'll have a higher number of people using each park, making park use more safe for kids, parents, the elderly and everyone else. That's a lesson that should've been applied to the Greenway, which is surrounded by more open space than buildings and as a result is already becoming a wasted space and a deadzone.

The last 50 years, with a pinch of common sense, provide many lessons and blueprints to follow for building a successful urban neighborhood from scratch. Filling half of it with awkward, poorly defined open space breaks up communities, encourages car use, and creates a barren, windscraped and ultimately aesthetically uninteresting and just plain ugly feel to a community. Barry's Corner is a mess today because of its abundant open space; by following its present-day fundamentals, the neighborhood will be just as depressing in 20 years, Harvard or no Harvard.
 
I was thinking about this since my past reply. I think the A/B neighborhood advocates who want open space as part of this project should take a field trip to Beacon Hill and ask the residents there about how welcome they feel to go into Charles River Park for an afternoon of enjoying the "open" space and how often they avail themselves of such an outing. I think they'd find that institutionally planned "open" space is anything but welcoming or open.
 
I was thinking about this since my past reply. I think the A/B neighborhood advocates who want open space as part of this project should take a field trip to Beacon Hill and ask the residents there about how welcome they feel to go into Charles River Park for an afternoon of enjoying the "open" space and how often they avail themselves of such an outing. I think they'd find that institutionally planned "open" space is anything but welcoming or open.

The greater N. Allston neighborhood is against density; I don't think they would be any happier if you took the open space and built on it, and lowered the building heights. I think it fair to say that they do not want the South End to be rebuilt in N. Allston.

The neighborhood is keen on open space. As part of the cooperative agreement detailing community benefits associated with the construction of the science complex, Harvard is to build a new park.
The Project will include the creation of a new public park (?Library Park?) on Harvard-owned property behind the Honan-Allston Library. In the longer term, Library Park will be part of a larger park, currently called ?Rena Park,? and Harvard has committed to funding a planning process for the design of Rena Park. In addition, the Project will include funding an upgrade to Portsmouth Park.

The Portsmouth St. Park (playground) is across the Pike from Lowe's.

I was curious about the origin of Speedway St., which is opposite Brighton Mills. From various histories of Allston, I discovered that the Olmstead firm indeed did design a speedway for sulky racing in the late 1800s, and the stables and another building at the far end of Western Ave were built as part of the 'Speedway'.

As far as other open space, see the demand for Harvard to reconstruct streams that were engineered out of existence over 100+ years ago:
http://www.boston.com/news/science/...rvard_expansion_restore_allstons_watery_ways/
 
The nature of North Allston and North Brighton is a neighborhood of detached one, two, and three family homes. Whether or not we should convert the entire neighborhood into the architecture of the North End or South End is a moot point. Many of us think that new construction that abuts our existing neighborhood should fit nicely into the existing neighborhood. You don't get that by dropping a piece of something like Beacon Hill into an area like Hyde Park.

Itchy - I agree with your comments about clearly defined public parks and "half-baked suburban lawn around apartment complexes". I think Ramler Park in the Fenway is a great example of how a park can improve a community in an urban context. In Brookline, the park on St Paul St between Browne and Freeman is another wonderful example of an active area that brings together neighbors from many walks of life.

What many people in A/B North are proposing is neighborhood-wide planning of how this community is going to grow and what goals we should have for that growth. We don't want to stop the growth, but we do want to understand how it should be done so that the end result if great. If we are going to add 5,000 new residents and 15,000 new workers here, what else should we add? More retail? More parks? Better transportation? New schools? Or just build a ton of housing, offices, and research labs?
 
The nature of North Allston and North Brighton is a neighborhood of detached one, two, and three family homes. Whether or not we should convert the entire neighborhood into the architecture of the North End or South End is a moot point. Many of us think that new construction that abuts our existing neighborhood should fit nicely into the existing neighborhood. You don't get that by dropping a piece of something like Beacon Hill into an area like Hyde Park.

In other words, cities shouldn't change too drastically. The character of neighborhoods should never evolve.

In the 17th century, the North End was a neighborhood of half-timbered houses with thatched roofs. If residents had pled that was its unalterable "nature", we would hardly have been able to build a city of Boston at all.

Cities have needs. In the 19th century, its needs necessitated the North End's conversion from a relatively cozy colonial neighborhood into one of densely-packed tenements. Today, Boston's economy is driven by its academic resources, necessitating Harvard's expansion. The city has a housing shortage driven by increased immigration and a high student population. Against these factors, asserting that the city's building stock cannot expand is fatal.

Brownstone Boston is not only the height of urban planning in this city, but integral to the city's brand and image. If one moves to San Francisco, it is not unlikely one will be able to live in a neighborhood that looks and feels like the conventional image of "San Francisco". If one moves to Boston, however, living on a street of brick rowhouses clearly appears to be a privilege afforded only by the insanely rich. I don't think many people are attracted to this city by the prospect of inhabiting a utilitarian triple-decker. We should be expanding opportunities for people to afford, and participate in, Boston's most attractive face to the world.
 
czsz,

Please don't twist my words. I did not at all say "neighborhoods should never evolve". Quite to the contrary, I support a considerable evolution of Allston/Brighton. My point was about how new development should or shouldn't integrate with its surroundings, not that we should freeze the City in its 2008 condition.

Do you support demolishing every detached home in Boston?

Beacon Hill is great for certain segments of our population, but a lot of people who live there happily in their 20's and 30's leave when they want to start a family and want more space in their homes, a backyard, etc. The census data supports that impression: 5% of Beacon Hill / Back Bay households have children vs. 12% for Boston as a whole.
http://www.cityofboston.gov/bra/PDF/ResearchPublications//Rpt594.pdf
 

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