Logan Airport Flights and Airlines Discussion

What's going to happen once AA and US fully merge their operations in October? Is AA going to move the the US side of B?
 
adamh8297 said:
British Airways responds to the new Gatwick flights:

"British Airways responded robustly to the challenge from Norwegian. BA said: 'From May 2016, when the Norwegian flights begin, our cheapest return flights will be £603."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...Boston-ll-quick-26-people-flight-buy-one.html

Everyone wins when Norwegian comes to town.
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They're going to have to do better than that. That's still $945 at today's exchange rate. Virgin and Delta are in the low $800 range for the same timeframe, while Norweigan is in the high $600 range.
 
FenwayResident said:
They're going to have to do better than that. That's still $945 at today's exchange rate. Virgin and Delta are in the low $800 range for the same timeframe, while Norweigan is in the high $600 range.
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Better than paying 1350 as some had this summer.

I personally believe 8-900 is a fair rate for nonstop Boston-London but when its cheaper to go to Dubai, Beijing or Hong Kong it makes you scratch your head.
 
adamh8297 said:
Better than paying 1350 as some had this summer.

I personally believe 8-900 is a fair rate for nonstop Boston-London but when its cheaper to go to Dubai, Beijing or Hong Kong it makes you scratch your head.
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Air fares have always been hard to explain

There was a period of time -- a few years before the TSA Era when a Non Stop or a 1 Stop to LA was cheaper than a flight to Chicago

So if you wanted to go to Chicago you arranged for a flight to/from LA with a change in Chicago -- then you dumped the rest of the ticket

This became so popular that first brokerages got set up who bought the unused ticket segments and resold them at a discount

As computing became more capable the airlines figured this out and started to do more weird pricing on their own
 
whighlander said:
Air fares have always been hard to explain

There was a period of time -- a few years before the TSA Era when a Non Stop or a 1 Stop to LA was cheaper than a flight to Chicago

So if you wanted to go to Chicago you arranged for a flight to/from LA with a change in Chicago -- then you dumped the rest of the ticket

This became so popular that first brokerages got set up who bought the unused ticket segments and resold them at a discount

As computing became more capable the airlines figured this out and started to do more weird pricing on their own
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This is still a thing.
And the airlines aren't happy about it.
 
Ready for Non-stop to Hawaii 50

today's BBJ
http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/b...support-for-direct-boston-hawaii-flights.html
There's support for direct Boston-Hawaii flights
Aug 28, 2015, 7:13am EDT
In an informal poll taken Thursday of 1,100 visitor industry leaders at Hawaii's annual tourism conference, a direct Massachusetts-Hawaii link received the most support out of any domestic route.
According to our sister paper, the Pacific Business News:
Among domestic routes, the demand for a direct flight between Boston and Hawaii drew 40 percent of the vote. Orlando, Florida; Philadelphia and St. Louis trailed behind after receiving 22 percent, 14 percent and 17 percent of the total votes, respectively.
Whether that route eventually takes shape is another story.
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From the Boston Aviation thread in airliners.net

"Swiss will increase ZRH-BOS to 2x daily in S16. From 14 April 2016, 3 additional flights per week will be added. An 11th frequency will be added starting 3 May 2016 and on 26 May the route will go 14 weekly. The additional flight LX54/55 will have the following schedule

LX54 ZRH-BOS 1255 - 1520LT
LX55 BOS-ZRH 1700 - 0615 "


No clue if this is a seasonal add or not.
 
Arlington said:
If only HNL were a hub on the way to someplace. Though if BOS-TLV can work, you'd think BOS-HNL would.
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Not to sound like Captain Obvious here but Honolulu and Tel Aviv are totally different types of markets.
 
JumboBuc said:
How much Boston-Australia traffic is there?
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Dunno, but Australia is basically the only "big" destination for which HNL would be a legit connection, meaning that an attempted hub in HNL would lose as an Asia-Pacific hub to LAX, DTW, or ORD, all of which are basically directly on the great circle route (and LAX + DFW already have Qantas service)
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mass88 said:
I don't have hard numbers, but multiple people on airliners.net have said that Boston is one of the largest feeders into DFW-SYD.
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2011 - It was about 50 PDEW to Sydney/Brisbane/Melbourne/Auckland-NZ in 2011.

It has to be higher now since there's been more capacity US-Australia/NZ (Sydney-Dallas, Virgin Australia/Delta JV, and Houston-Auckland beginning in 2016) and Emirates/Qatar does market East Coast USA to Western Australia and will sell you any Oceania destination.

The Aussie dollar is also a lot softer against the US Dollar - earlier part of the decade it was very strong!
 
In the September 3rd edition of Travel Weekly UK, Bjorn Kos of Norwegian discusses serving Boston-Edinburgh/Birmingham with 737 MAX planes that will arrive in 2017.

http://content.yudu.com/A3w7e6/030915

You will need flash to view the "online magazine" in the link.
 
March 2015 BTS-100 International (I didn't do Canada and only new Caribbean)

Decent month for Air France and Delta's Amsterdam route

Newer carriers
Emirates - 78.4% - would have been oversold a LOT on the DXB-BOS leg if 77L was used
Turkish - 78.9% - better than February
Copa - 81.4% - First month going 5-6 weekly in offpeak
Hainan- 88.9% - status quo
Japan Airlines - did not report yet
WowAir- 64.3% (only 5 roundtrips for the month)

Incumbents
LH Munich- 76.2%
LH Frankfurt- 73.3%
Air France- 84.7
British Airways - 77.9%
Virgin Atlantic -65.2
Alitalia- 71.7
Delta (London) - 60.1%
Delta (Amsterdam) - 84.8%
Aer Lingus (Shannon) - 72.0%
Aer Lingus (Dublin) - 83.0%
IcelandAir- 87.9%
SATA (Ponta Delgada only) - 92.2%
Swiss - 73.9%

new Jetblue routes

Puerto Plata - 93.9%
Liberia Costa Rica- 96.4% - no wonder this is going Sat/Sun in 2016
St Lucia- 92.2%
 
Adam, thanks. I've always felt that Logan has always done a damn good job on it's international routes considering that it isn't a hub for one of the major carriers overseas. Atlanta, Detroit, Dallas, Houston, Newark, Philadelphia, Washington DC Dulles, Charlotte all are airline hubs that funnel travelers through these airports to international destinations. The closest that Logan had to it's own international hub was years ago with Northwest Airlines. Boston does damn well considering that it depends mostly on individual international airlines flying in and out of the city.
 
atlantaden said:
Boston does damn well considering that it depends mostly on individual international airlines flying in and out of the city.
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It may get even better. Someone on airliners just mentioned that Boston-Cologne/Bonn is in the works on Lufthansa's long-haul LCC called Eurowings.

A quick google search shows this
http://www.exbir.de/reise-magazin/14456-2015-09-13-20-56-05.html


On the flip side, Copa is going 5 weekly for September-November and March-May. However, they have been subbing in the larger plane 738 as well since the 73G.

Someone with insider info on the other site did give me the top 5 connecting destinations in Panama City from Boston. Surprisingly, neither Sao Paulo or Belo Horizonte made the list:

1)Medellin, Colombia
2)Guatemala City (that's a big detour compared to going through Miami)
3)San Jose, CR
4)Bogota, Colombia
5)Lima, Peru
 
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